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Title: 2021 V7 850
Post by: greer on July 31, 2021, 04:47:45 AM

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Too early to say much yet, except that I just had to have it.  And that the rear suspension is like night and day compared to the new V7 III I test rode.  I'll keep you posted.

Sarah
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Zoom Zoom on July 31, 2021, 05:52:19 AM
Ouu NICE! :thumb:

John Henry
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Iron Cross Junction on July 31, 2021, 05:53:24 AM

Stupendous!

Bill
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: reidy on July 31, 2021, 06:07:46 AM
I just went to the Moto Guzzi Australia website and it only shows the V85. It looks like we are not getting it.

Steve
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: sdcr on July 31, 2021, 06:45:28 AM
Looks really nice in that blue paint scheme.

Glad that Guzzi is starting to get away from the drab, flat paint schemes.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: egschade on July 31, 2021, 06:56:03 AM
Well done! Wishing you many happy miles  :bike-037:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Adk.IBO on July 31, 2021, 06:57:28 AM
Really nice looking ride! Enjoy many miles!
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Dave Swanson on July 31, 2021, 07:00:29 AM
That's fantastic!   The first thing I noticed on my test ride at the National was how nice the suspension was, and then the extra power!  Along with a much more comfy seat I think its a winner! 
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: blu guzz on July 31, 2021, 07:24:26 AM
beautiful.

you can still get the "drab, flat" finishes on the "stone" models. 

agreed, when i test rode one, the differences were both subtle in some areas (better tracking, feel of throttle) and much more obvious in others (suspension and power and seat).

i don't think you will be seeing 2 year old brand new bikes anchoring the showroom floors of this model.  i think it is more of a smash in its niche and in comparison to the competition in its range than the V85 was when it came out and that is saying something.

bravo MG
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: mechanicsavant on July 31, 2021, 08:22:51 AM
I’m over the moon w/my centanario , IMHO its only a set of hard bags , center stand & radials away from 2 wheeled nirvana (no not the band) !
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Ncdan on July 31, 2021, 08:41:25 AM
Nice bike Sarah!
Id like to see a full review after you put some miles on👍
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: JJ on July 31, 2021, 08:47:13 AM
CONGRATS!! That's one beautiful, modern Guzzi! :thumb: :boozing: :cool: 

Interesting comment about the rear suspension, also.... :thumb:  They obviously "upgraded!" :thumb:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: inditx on July 31, 2021, 08:50:47 AM
Thanks a lot Sarah!
Now I want one.......
inditx
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: SLDMRossi on July 31, 2021, 09:01:19 AM
From the latest issue of MGNOC NEWS:


The V7’s New Lease on Life
by
Steven Rossi


   The 49th Annual MGNOC Rally…held in Keene, New Hampshire to celebrate Moto Guzzi’s 100th Anniversary…has come and gone, and a good time was had by all. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity for Guzzi guys and gals to congregate because after all, there’s only one one-hundredth! Sorry if you missed it, and I’ll leave it to others to report on the actual details of the event. But there was one enlightening experience I’d like to share.
   Thanks to Bethel, Connecticut Moto Guzzi dealer Jim Hamlin, there were Demo Rides to be had. Hamlin Cycles orchestrated the on-site activity by generously hauling up some new V7s out of their own inventory…including the latest, 2021 850 Special and Centenario editions. Obviously, I just had to jump aboard…and here’s what I learned, after a short blast through the Keene countryside.
   Plain and simple, the 850 has bestowed a new lease on life for the V7. The engine seems as if it’s what was originally destined for what’s become…after so many iterations…Moto Guzzi’s best selling model. It’s powerful, smooth, responsive and well calibrated. Not only is it torquey and refined, but throaty and more comfortable at the same time.
   Ridden back-to-back at the Rally, a previous V7 III is/was comparatively…and clearly…at the end of its useful life. With less grunt, a little more vibration and slower response, the III proved a bit harder to ride. You have to work the bike a bit more to get it to obey, where the 850 is more poised and cooperative.
   The new 850 seems to shift better than its predecessor, though I assume that’s simply a result of being a better match to the new engine. The 2021 saddle is more welcoming than the V7 III seat and the beefed-up suspension is more compliant. Jim Hamlin pointed out the fine point of the 850’s upgraded rear shock arrangement…which is laid down a little more. Allowing the rear end to be a bit more progressive in response to bumps and road irregularities.
The only thing I found that the III did better than the 850 was turn-in. The old bike did so ever-so-slightly quicker because of its shorter wheelbase. The 2021 models rely on a longer V9 swingarm and its stronger rear housing, and it return, provide a more solid and planted feel over-the-road.
I’m not a fan of the new digital, Centenario instrument cluster, which is offset to the left in typical (single gauge) Stone style. It just doesn’t look right from behind the bars. The dual instruments (speedo and tach) may be enough to sway you toward the 850 Special. In fact, it proved so desirable that Hamlin Cycles sold its beautiful, Blue demo on the spot to a Rally-goer who returned from a test ride!   
   So we welcome the arrival of the latest 850. With its new lease on life, the V7 is now a Guzzi that very much gets it done with no apologies necessary. Fit and finish was also top notch, and it’s priced right. Furthermore, it presents some rather intriguing potential for Moto Guzzi’s second hundred years.
Some folks have been longing for a reincarnation of the legendary LeMans. I believe the new, light and nimble V7 850 would make a perfect platform instead for a born again…V50 Monza! There’s supposedly a new, big-block engine in the works (to be revealed in September?) which could/should be saved for a performance flagship.
We’ll see. Life goes on. In the meantime, let’s enjoy the new V7 850…
   
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: tazio on July 31, 2021, 09:29:54 AM
Seen one in the wilds of north Georgia a few weeks back.
Agreed!, gorgeous!, though I wish they'd have painted that rear fender :wink:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: SLDMRossi on July 31, 2021, 09:45:57 AM
Yes...the refocus on gloss finish after so many matte color treatments now makes the rear fender more noticeable. By the way...beyond the new Blue, the Silver Special is pretty sweet, too.

SR
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Muzz on July 31, 2021, 05:33:46 PM
That is one nice looking bike Sarah; beautiful colour. :thumb:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: twowheeladdict on July 31, 2021, 08:38:33 PM
From the latest issue of MGNOC NEWS:
   Ridden back-to-back at the Rally, a previous V7 III is/was comparatively…and clearly…at the end of its useful life. With less grunt, a little more vibration and slower response, the III proved a bit harder to ride. You have to work the bike a bit more to get it to obey, where the 850 is more poised and cooperative.
   

Exactly how I felt going from a 2010 V7 to the 2018 V7III.  I can't imagine this bike being the same level of leap forward.  Now I have to test ride one.

My 2010 felt like riding g an early 70s motorcycle.  The 2018 felt like a modern machine on par with the FZ07 it replaced.

The V85TT still bubbles to the top for a mid weight touring bike.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: kingoffleece on July 31, 2021, 11:58:14 PM
It is a jump.  Not huge, but most certainly noticeable, and worth it IMO.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: PJPR01 on August 01, 2021, 12:28:31 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/9HYnmw5/IMG-0068.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9HYnmw5)


Too early to say much yet, except that I just had to have it.  And that the rear suspension is like night and day compared to the new V7 III I test rode.  I'll keep you posted.

Sarah

Best new color combo out there!  Enjoy the new ride!
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: averb on August 01, 2021, 01:40:52 AM
I just went to the Moto Guzzi Australia website and it only shows the V85. It looks like we are not getting it.

Steve

Just the website being a bit slow on the update I think
https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/brand-new-bikes-in-stock/moto-guzzi/v7-stone/

Steve
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: twowheeladdict on August 01, 2021, 07:13:30 PM
Seen one in the wilds of north Georgia a few weeks back.
Agreed!, gorgeous!, though I wish they'd have painted that rear fender :wink:


Slap a fender elimination kit on there and then you don't have to be concerned about the black fender.
Here are for the V7III, but certainly there will be some for the new V7s eventually.
https://www.af1racing.com/K-Town-Fender-Eliminator-wTaillight-For-V7-IIIs

https://gtmotocycles.com/products/gt-motocycles-v7-fender-eliminator-kit
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: greer on August 02, 2021, 05:30:15 AM
Thanks for the nice compliments, everybody.  I don't mind the black rear fender, but blue would have been nice.  I hate they cut down the
front fender, so I have a "fenda extenda" on the way.

Sarah
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on August 02, 2021, 06:47:13 AM
Our local dealership had a Blue and a Silver one in stock, of course I wanted one.
Enjoy your new bike Sarah  :thumb:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: sdcr on August 02, 2021, 07:26:44 AM
I was also puzzled by the “ need” to have a very short front fender. Good to know that  a Fenda extenda is available to correct this.

I had an opportunity to demo an exact double of your bike last week. I definitely could feel the increase in power, relative to the 750 version of the V7.

Thanks for the nice compliments, everybody.  I don't mind the black rear fender, but blue would have been nice.  I hate they cut down the
front fender, so I have a "fenda extenda" on the way.

Sarah
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on August 02, 2021, 07:27:38 AM
Just curious, is the *850 & white stripe* on the tank painted on or a decal? if a decal is it under or over the clearcoat?
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: ohiorider on August 02, 2021, 07:34:00 AM
Beautiful bike! I like everything I'm reading about it.  More power, better suspension.  Thanks for posting.

Bob
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: kingoffleece on August 02, 2021, 09:55:20 AM
I assisted at Hamlin's when the first batch of the new 850 V7's arrived.  When we uncrated the blue bike, in the sun, everyone in the shop was dumbfounded at how beautiful it looked.  It's a 10 out of 10.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: greer on August 02, 2021, 10:16:05 AM
Just curious, is the *850 & white stripe* on the tank painted on or a decal? if a decal is it under or over the clearcoat?

Decal under clearcoat on the tank; the side plate is just the decal.

Sarah
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Zoom Zoom on August 02, 2021, 11:09:43 AM
So, out of curiosity, any chance we might get you to measure the rear swing arm from the center point of the pivot to the center point of the axle bolt?

I have heard the swing arm is longer than the previous V7 models, but I have not substantiated that. No hurry BTW.

John Henry
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: 80CX100 on August 02, 2021, 11:19:45 AM
  When we uncrated the blue bike, in the sun, everyone in the shop was dumbfounded at how beautiful it looked.  It's a 10 out of 10.

     I agree, that's one of the deepest blues I've ever seen  :thumb:

     Sarah, I'd love to hear your impressions and comparisons after you get some time on it.

      Wishing you many safe miles and smiles on your new bike.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: greer on August 02, 2021, 01:21:29 PM
I'm trying to pay fairly close attention to the break in shift light, so I'm not sure how much I can tell you at this point.  I'd been riding Doug's Roamer since he bought the V85TT and was absolutely swept away by the V9 engine.  But the Roamer felt much more spread out as far as the riding position, and I couldn't get near as comfortable riding and handling it as I was on my V7 II.  Doug said it stood to reason I ought to go try the new 850 so away we went to the nearest dealer, Sloan's.  Rolling away on the test ride I nearly felt disappointed, the 850 lacks a good bit of that mechanical, rumbling, thumping feel that I enjoy so much on the V9.  It's there, it's just not a prominent feature the way it is on the Roamer.  The V7 850 fits like a glove though, and handles without a thought, completely natural.  I went home and studied for two days just to make sure.  I've got 200 miles on it now, like it more with each ride.

Sarah

p.s. I'll get that measurement for you, John Henry.  Any other questions, just ask.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: greer on August 02, 2021, 05:39:20 PM
So, out of curiosity, any chance we might get you to measure the rear swing arm from the center point of the pivot to the center point of the axle bolt?

I have heard the swing arm is longer than the previous V7 models, but I have not substantiated that. No hurry BTW.

John Henry

18 1/16 inches.

Sarah
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Moparnut72 on August 02, 2021, 05:55:01 PM
Looks to be the same as my V7lll.
kk
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: twowheeladdict on August 02, 2021, 06:25:39 PM
Maybe this time next year there will be a few more 850cc models to choose from. 
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Iron Cross Junction on August 02, 2021, 06:32:54 PM
I'm trying to pay fairly close attention to the break in shift light, so I'm not sure how much I can tell you at this point.  I'd been riding Doug's Roamer since he bought the V85TT and was absolutely swept away by the V9 engine.  But the Roamer felt much more spread out as far as the riding position, and I couldn't get near as comfortable riding and handling it as I was on my V7 II.  Doug said it stood to reason I ought to go try the new 850 so away we went to the nearest dealer, Sloan's.  Rolling away on the test ride I nearly felt disappointed, the 850 lacks a good bit of that mechanical, rumbling, thumping feel that I enjoy so much on the V9. It's there, it's just not a prominent feature the way it is on the Roamer.  The V7 850 fits like a glove though, and handles without a thought, completely natural.  I went home and studied for two days just to make sure.  I've got 200 miles on it now, like it more with each ride.

Sarah

p.s. I'll get that measurement for you, John Henry.  Any other questions, just ask.

That is how, regrettably, I feel about my III, which -- has so unlike the Stornello's V7 -- a kiss-your-sister sort of blandness.  It's a pleasant machine, but not, IMO, a thrilling one.  I'm glad the new V7-850 delivers more of the visceral joy of my other Guzzis. 

Bill
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on August 03, 2021, 12:01:45 AM
18 1/16 inches.

Sarah
The V7III is 18-1/8 inches
I wonder if they used the rear end from the V9, it certainly looks beefier than the V7
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: HarveyMushman on August 03, 2021, 06:57:28 AM
The V7III is 17-1/2 inches
I wonder if they used the rear end from the V9, it certainly looks beefier than the V7
It's from the V85TT.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: bettythebear on August 03, 2021, 09:00:47 AM
Can we get rid of this thread? I just got back and started riding my old v7 Classic a little over a week ago, and now I have to read this thread about how great the new 850 is.  :bike-037:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: twowheeladdict on August 03, 2021, 09:09:49 AM
Can we get rid of this thread? I just got back and started riding my old v7 Classic a little over a week ago, and now I have to read this thread about how great the new 850 is.  :bike-037:

And that is why many manufacturers make periodic improvements or changes.

Some Japanese models have gone almost unchanged for 20 years.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on August 03, 2021, 09:10:12 AM
Can we get rid of this thread? I just got back and started riding my old v7 Classic a little over a week ago, and now I have to read this thread about how great the new 850 is.  :bike-037:
I don't think many of us will feel sorry for you, I know I would love an old V7, I don't think you could persuade me to swap my old Eldorado for one 40 years younger.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: bad Chad on August 03, 2021, 09:18:25 AM
The V7III is 17-1/2 inches
I wonder if they used the rear end from the V9, it certainly looks beefier than the V7

It was as designed and used first on the V9, then used on the V85, and now has made its way to the new v7.   In conclusion, all modern 850s have the longer stronger swing arm.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: sdcr on August 03, 2021, 09:19:40 AM
I think Bettythebears “V7”, is not a 70’s version, but a more recent V7 small block.

I don't think many of us will feel sorry for you, I know I would love an old V7, I don't think you could persuade me to swap my old Eldorado for one 40 years younger.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: bettythebear on August 03, 2021, 09:24:57 AM
V7 classic is the years prior to the v7 II.

Saying v7 I would make me think of the old school ones.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Moparnut72 on August 03, 2021, 10:26:59 AM
I have a 2019 V7lll Special. I just went and remeasured mine. It is 18 1/32 inches.
kk
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: twowheeladdict on August 03, 2021, 01:04:28 PM
I have a 2019 V7lll Special. I just went and remeasured mine. It is 18 1/32 inches.
kk

Interesting.  I will try and remember to measure mine when I get home. 
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Huzo on August 03, 2021, 01:51:02 PM
Interesting.  I will try and remember to measure mine when I get home.
:embarrassed:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: greer on August 03, 2021, 02:23:45 PM
^^ Oh boy.  Anyhow, on one forum or another somebody asked about the electrical output of the new V7 850.  According to my owner's manual it's 430W.  It says: Permanent magnet alternator 12V-430W.  Same as the TT I believe.

Sarah
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: twowheeladdict on August 03, 2021, 03:44:32 PM
Interesting.  I will try and remember to measure mine when I get home.

Center to center with a tape measure, 18", so taking in standard deviation looks to be the same. 
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: twowheeladdict on August 03, 2021, 03:48:12 PM
The V7III is 17-1/2 inches
I wonder if they used the rear end from the V9, it certainly looks beefier than the V7


Did you measure this?   2 of us say 18". 17.5" to the bottom of the shock maybe.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: SIR REAL ED on August 04, 2021, 05:40:13 AM
Thanks for the nice compliments, everybody.  I don't mind the black rear fender, but blue would have been nice.  I hate they cut down the
front fender, so I have a "fenda extenda" on the way.

Sarah

Great looking bike Sarah!  Nicest looking "new bike" I have seen in a very long time.  A bike that just might get me back into the Guzzi Owner's pack,  Fenda Extenda's are awesome.  The person who came up with that idea deserves to become very wealthy.  I have also made mudflaps from rubber sheet purchased from McMaster-Carr.  Doesn't look as good!

I didn't notice the rear fender until I read the comments.  Hard to tell from the picture, but it looks like very little of the rear fender is visible.  Painting it might not be much of a visual gain, but a fun way to make the bike more unique as a minimum.

Looking forward to more impressions.

Thanks for sharing.  Congrats and enjoy!!
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: SIR REAL ED on August 04, 2021, 05:56:59 AM
Yeah , but what is it in millimeters , and why is this technological miracle allowing for posting this telling me it is spelled

                                                      MILLIMETRES and not millimeters ?
 
 Hmm  :rolleyes:

 The Sultan

New management.  It all went to hell when the old bear retreated to his cave.   :wink:

All the old bears I know, if you poke them often enough, they either take your head off with one swat, or wander away!  The uncertainty of response makes it fun.  Kinda like betting on red or black at the roulette wheel.

As a kid, the old timers told me it was rattling their cage!  Seemed to one of their primary forms of recreation.

I hope you are doing well Dusty.   :laugh:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: SIR REAL ED on August 04, 2021, 06:05:53 AM
I just visited the website.  https://www.motoguzzi.com/us_EN/models/v7/v7-special-850-v-twin-4s-2021/

$249 for a clutch lever!!!  The Harley worshippers are gonna get jealous.

Not painting the rear fender on the silver model was a huge mistake compared to not painting the fender on the blue model.

Moto Guzzi should fire their photographer and hire Sarah as their photographer.

Oddly enough, the gallery of photos all feature the blue model and none of the silver.

It will be interesting to see if the modernization of the Guzzi's leads the aftermarket to produce some "Mechanical Charm" (tm) restorers.

It would be easy to produce a little bolt on device that produces some mechanical white noise and a bit of vibration.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on August 04, 2021, 06:04:27 PM

Did you measure this?   2 of us say 18". 17.5" to the bottom of the shock maybe.
Yes, you are correct I screwed up  :violent1:

18 - 1/8 I make it
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: twowheeladdict on August 04, 2021, 08:38:31 PM
 :thumb:   :cool:  Just didn't want people getting confused thinking the new V7 had a longer swingarm.   :thumb:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: jbell on August 05, 2021, 09:20:54 PM
Yeah , but what is it in millimeters , and why is this technological miracle allowing for posting this telling me it is spelled

                                                      MILLIMETRES and not millimeters ?
 
 Hmm  :rolleyes:

 The Sultan

Because it's metric, not metirc.  🙄

Geez, I never noticed the rear fender wasn't painted till this thread.  What are they thinking?

Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Moparnut72 on August 05, 2021, 10:35:25 PM
What?
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Bpreynolds2 on August 06, 2021, 06:35:27 AM
Okay, okay.  Geez.  I’ll come down and test ride it.  Please stop asking now.   :grin:

Seriously.  Congrats.  Gorgeous ride.  If I had the cash I’d take that Roamer off your hands  :thumb:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Zoom Zoom on August 06, 2021, 06:38:12 AM
Isn't he on 2nd ?

 The Sultan

Who?

John Henry
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: sdcr on August 06, 2021, 08:41:19 AM
What’s on second.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: greer on August 08, 2021, 05:14:17 AM
I'd been using Slingshot Racing adjustable pegs on my V7 II, yesterday swapped them over to the V7 850 with no problems at all.

Sarah
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Zoom Zoom on August 11, 2021, 07:26:02 AM
For those interested, I was poking around to see what accessories are available for the MK4. (V7 850) Although Moto Machines, the US importer, does not have a listing for Hepco Becker the H-B site does. With regard to the H-B brackets that allow the use of the Junior bags, they list a part number of 653556 00 01. That is a different number than the V7III part number. They also list the other pieces such as a rear rack, engine guards, center stand. I did not compare any of those numbers against older V7 models. No doubt as Moto Machines updates their site, MK4 accessories will show up soon.

I figure there might be people wanting to be able to set up a new V7 MK4 as a dedicated tourer and a set of 40L Juniors, (or 30's), would go a long way toward that goal, not to mention setting a trunk on the back. Knowing the stuff is out there might help someone on the fence about getting a new V7 because of this.

John Henry
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Wayne Orwig on August 11, 2021, 08:15:41 AM
Who?
Who's on first.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: sib on August 11, 2021, 09:01:47 AM
For those interested, I was poking around to see what accessories are available for the MK4. (V7 850) Although Moto Machines, the US importer, does not have a listing for Hepco Becker the H-B site does. With regard to the H-B brackets that allow the use of the Junior bags, they list a part number of 653556 00 01. That is a different number than the V7III part number. They also list the other pieces such as a rear rack, engine guards, center stand. I did not compare any of those numbers against older V7 models. No doubt as Moto Machines updates their site, MK4 accessories will show up soon.

I figure there might be people wanting to be able to set up a new V7 MK4 as a dedicated tourer and a set of 40L Juniors, (or 30's), would go a long way toward that goal, not to mention setting a trunk on the back. Knowing the stuff is out there might help someone on the fence about getting a new V7 because of this.

John Henry
Yes, I've been watching both the H&B web site and also Moto Machine's.  H&B just started offering the racks for the V7 E5 about a week ago.  H&B won't sell directly to anyone in a country that has a distributor, so that rules out a direct sale to me.  I've been in contact with Moto Machines, who told be that they will be offering the racks "soon".  They told me the same thing in early May when I first brought my V7 E5 home.  Very frustrating.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Zoom Zoom on August 11, 2021, 10:06:18 AM
Another question I have for the new owners. (I cannot find this any place on the web.)

Does the owners manual list the ratios for the transmission and final drive? I'm really only curious about 6th.

On the III, 6th is 1:0.857 and the final drive is 1:4.125.


John Henry
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: greer on August 11, 2021, 11:52:03 AM
From the owner's manual under Transmission, Gear Ratios: 6th gear 28/24 = 1: 0.857.  Final drive ratio 8/33 = 1: 4.125

Sarah

Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Zoom Zoom on August 11, 2021, 12:08:14 PM
Thanks. I'm surprised that they didn't change the ratios.

ZZ
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Vagrant on August 11, 2021, 04:35:16 PM
As specified, from the owners manual, so, a 50/50 shot at being correct.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Zoom Zoom on August 11, 2021, 05:56:06 PM
Good point.

John Henry
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: twowheeladdict on August 12, 2021, 11:48:42 AM
Quote from: Zoom Zoom link=totpic=111649.msg1772389#msg1772389 date=1628701694
Thanks. I'm surprised that they didn't change the ratios.

ZZ

What were you hoping they changed the ratios to?   

Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Zoom Zoom on August 12, 2021, 12:27:37 PM
I suppose I might have expected a change to top end gearing to drop a few revs since there is a power increase with the new motor.

John Henry
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Moparnut72 on August 12, 2021, 01:02:11 PM
I would have expected that as well.
kk
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: bad Chad on August 12, 2021, 07:25:29 PM
What Vagrant said.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Dave Swanson on September 08, 2021, 05:04:51 PM
I am really enjoying the V7-850.  It has a more substantial feel to it that I like. 

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Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: twowheeladdict on September 08, 2021, 05:07:59 PM
I suppose I might have expected a change to top end gearing to drop a few revs since there is a power increase with the new motor.

John Henry

Really?  I can't even put my V7III into 6th gear until I am doing 70 mph and above.  These aren't really interstate bikes and I am only on the interstate for an exit or two to avoid other roads. 
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Stephen on September 08, 2021, 05:18:18 PM

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I love the blue.
I sometimes miss polishing a motorcycle, but the matte finish on my Aluminum, has grown on me and rarely looks dirty.
I chose the anniversary V7, as I wanted cast wheels and an Anniversary Model.
It's my Cappuccino Crawler, and I love it.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: bad Chad on September 08, 2021, 06:54:52 PM
I can drop my v9 in 6th at 65 on flat IL road without complaint, but it feels more “right “ at the and up.
My favorite gear to play in is 4th, it’s amazingly dynamic!
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: twowheeladdict on September 08, 2021, 08:39:45 PM

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I love the blue.
I sometimes miss polishing a motorcycle, but the matte finish on my Aluminum, has grown on me and rarely looks dirty.
I chose the anniversary V7, as I wanted cast wheels and an Anniversary Model.
It's my Cappuccino Crawler, and I love it.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Zoom Zoom on September 09, 2021, 06:34:53 AM
Really?  I can't even put my V7III into 6th gear until I am doing 70 mph and above.  These aren't really interstate bikes and I am only on the interstate for an exit or two to avoid other roads.

I agree generally speaking, with a few exceptions. First, as with many of my past Guzzi's, the speedo is optimistic. 80 indicated is really closer to 70. (a little above actually) Second, as for interstate riding, leaving the Ohio Rally I was tired and it was raining. Under those circumstances, my interest in getting home quickly out weighed taking twisty roads, with the latter adding about two hours to the trip in good weather.

In reality, it had no trouble doing what I asked of it. It took years to get from 45 or so to 52 and they made changes to the ratios. You might think a 13 hp increase might do the same. They changed the ratios from the II to the III. (1st and 6th)
 

John Henry
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: twowheeladdict on September 09, 2021, 06:40:35 AM
I agree generally speaking, with a few exceptions. First, as with many of my past Guzzi's, the speedo is optimistic. 80 indicated is really closer to 70. (a little above actually) Second, as for interstate riding, leaving the Ohio Rally I was tired and it was raining. Under those circumstances, my interest in getting home quickly out weighed taking twisty roads, with the latter adding about two hours to the trip in good weather.

In reality, it had no trouble doing what I asked of it. It took years to get from 45 or so to 52 and they made changes to the ratios. You might think a 13 hp increase might do the same. They changed the ratios from the II to the III. (1st and 6th)
 

John Henry

I put a slightly larger rear tire thus changing my overall ratio and making my speedo more accurate.  Within 3 mph compared with my GPS. 
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Dave Swanson on September 09, 2021, 07:21:34 AM

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I chose the anniversary V7, as I wanted cast wheels and an Anniversary Model.


Nice choice!  Glad you are getting on with it!  The cast wheels and 100 year paint also swayed me from that pretty blue Special
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Muzz on September 09, 2021, 07:14:28 PM
Those Mistrals really suit the bike Dave. :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: buck on September 09, 2021, 10:32:55 PM
The posts and reviews I’m reading are killing me! I’d sure love to get one of these, but I haven’t had a shifty of any kind in the garage in a couple of years. Scooters only, a BV350 and a Vespa GTS. Whenever I have a third bike one seems to get neglected. I’m just over 30,000 miles on the BV and feel like it has a lot of life left in it. But Guzzis are like a virus that never quite goes away  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Dave Swanson on September 09, 2021, 10:40:23 PM
Those Mistrals really suit the bike Dave. :thumb: :thumb:

Thanks!  And they sound as good as they look.  With db killer left in I think they make wonderful music. 
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Dave Swanson on September 09, 2021, 10:43:27 PM
The posts and reviews I’m reading are killing me! I’d sure love to get one of these, but I haven’t had a shifty of any kind in the garage in a couple of years. Scooters only, a BV350 and a Vespa GTS. Whenever I have a third bike one seems to get neglected. I’m just over 30,000 miles on the BV and feel like it has a lot of life left in it. But Guzzis are like a virus that never quite goes away  :laugh:

I predict you will succumb to the pull of MG again!   :evil:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: blu guzz on September 10, 2021, 06:47:57 AM
I like your term "virus" that never goes away.  Describes it perfectly.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: buck on September 10, 2021, 10:45:59 AM
I like your term "virus" that never goes away.  Describes it perfectly.

The only other Goose I’ve ever owned was a 2002 Lemans I bought new and returned under lemon law it had so many issues. It was a 2.5 year battle I never want to go through again.

But when it ran it was like nothing else I’ve owned. I’ve never forgotten it. So yes, a virus!
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: blu guzz on September 11, 2021, 06:51:52 AM
They are like that for sure.  My MG story started with an addicted friend who wanted me to drive all night with him in the winter and sleep in the truck in a rest stop to pick up this killer deal left over 2002 Stone from a dealer in NY in 2004.  Being much younger and stupider, I agreed.  Got it home and I had one ride on it before the clutch stopped working at 1,500 miles.  I never forget the feel of that bike, the Guzzi feel that we all know but can't adequately describe.  He got rid of that one soon after and has never had another in spite of how good the newer ones have become, and my prodding.  At any rate, over the next years, I continued to ride Beemers.  A local fellow whom I actually bought a 2004 BMW RT from when he was a salesman at the then local BMW store (since closed) decided to take the plunge in 2015 and opened a Guzzi store to go with his busy used bike and repair business.  That is Cadre, and Enzo is the man.  His enthusiasm was infectious so I did some test rides over the next few years, but my K1200RS was serving me at the time.  I really liked the 1400 Eldorado, but could not see a realistic path to owning that bike.  Then, the RS spit out its rear diff., and I did not want to dump more money into it and at that exact time, Enzo had the Blue Guzz in stock, a pristine under 500 mile 2015 Cali Custom that was about 6 months old and I joined this tribe.  Those devils at Guzzi had to send that Demo Truck around with the V85TT's and here I am.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Kildareman on September 11, 2021, 04:07:15 PM
Got my Centenario yesterday. Had a stutter/hiccup. Removed the evap - stutter gone. Spent today fitting Mistrals, MG flat handlebar and some other jobs.  Cracking bike and so easy to live with so far.
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Dave Swanson on September 11, 2021, 05:24:09 PM
I popped off the lower hose of the breather valve and capped it off.   I left the canister in place for now until I can get it on my lift, because I didn't feel like rolling around on the garage floor today. 

What an immediate and satisfying improvement!  Hiccups completely gone! 
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: Kildareman on September 14, 2021, 01:16:40 PM
Wicklow gap (Wicklow mountains) in the rain.

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Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: twowings on September 15, 2021, 03:17:13 PM
^ Outstanding!  :thumb:
Title: Re: 2021 V7 850
Post by: greer on September 16, 2021, 05:03:38 AM
Headed out for a lunch meet up.


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That's an old, unsightly tail bag, but I needed to pick up a few groceries.

Sarah