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New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« on: August 04, 2021, 08:19:47 AM »
So a new bike was rumored for the 100th anniversary event, with the event postponed would the release be postponed as well (highly unlike me thinks), does it even exist? Is it the anniversary model with its colour tank swap hey we have a new model al la the motor company? I''d really like to see something genuinely new.

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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2021, 08:31:27 AM »
No spy shots, no chatter about a new engine,etc this close to the unveiling.....perso nally I'm not expecting much.
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2021, 07:12:00 PM »
Since we're speculating... or maybe just wishing... how about a new LeMans?

They build the V7 Sport with an 850 motor. How hard would it be to turn that into a LeMans with premium suspension and new bodywork and pipes?
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2021, 08:40:15 PM »
The real speculation is how many on this forum are ready to open their wallets if Moto Guzzi puts out a new 850 in the design of their liking? 
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2021, 09:24:31 PM »
The real speculation is how many on this forum are ready to open their wallets if Moto Guzzi puts out a new 850 in the design of their liking?

Enough, I bet. But, I also don’t think this forum represents the Guzzi owners demographic, and so potentially basing a preconception off the folks on here would be fallible (not saying that you or anyone else is, but if they were…). That, or the fresh faces just don’t like to post here much and/or prefer other media to post on.
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2021, 10:23:18 PM »
Sources in Italy mention a new Nevada based on the V9. 2 tone paint, leather bags, and forward controls.
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2021, 07:18:50 AM »
The real speculation is how many on this forum are ready to open their wallets if Moto Guzzi puts out a new 850 in the design of their liking?

I bet a fair amount if its more then a rebadge/color. Look at how many on here have literally ran out to get the V85 when it hit, and also the new V7's now just coming out.  Granted a lot of us like our old rides, and that's great, but there are quite a few here that are spending their hard earn green.
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2021, 08:05:49 AM »
Sources in Italy mention a new Nevada based on the V9. 2 tone paint, leather bags, and forward controls.

Ugh, I’d rather own a Sportster.
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2021, 08:49:25 AM »
Ugh, I’d rather own a Sportster.

Agree. Wish I would have had the fu ds when a camp host offered me his 1200 touring sportster last summer.  Sure was a beautiful bike with many tasteful upgrades. 
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2021, 08:54:42 AM »
Someone mentioned a while back they 'heard' that a new Le Mans 850 was coming out.

It was just mentioned that "word out of Italy is that a new Nevada is coming out."

Are both of these just whispers and rumors, or can we dig up some literature that's closer to legit sources? Because otherwise, it's pointless to be whispering what we THINK is coming up.
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2021, 09:03:22 AM »
The idea that it would be a refreshed Nevada is BS.   A  v9 Nevada would be too close to the existing V9 Roamer, and it's not like the Roamer is a super hot seller.
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2021, 09:27:14 AM »
The idea that it would be a refreshed Nevada is BS.   A  v9 Nevada would be too close to the existing V9 Roamer, and it's not like the Roamer is a super hot seller.

I dont even think the Roamer made the cut for 2021? AFAIK just the Bobber is the whole V9 series now? Why would you drop that from the line-up and then re-release it with bags and a windshield?  Not like the Florida/Nevada was ever a real hot seller in the first place
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2021, 09:59:23 AM »
The Roamer is still current in much of the rest of the world.  It's been in continues production since 2016, it's just North America that doesn't seem to appreciate her.
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2021, 10:04:42 AM »


Small block, single disc?
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2021, 11:35:02 AM »


Small block, single disc?

Nothing wrong with a single disk if it is sized right and mated with the right caliper to do the job. 

My new KLX300SM has the single disk, but is larger than the dual sport KLX300, and provides one finger braking.  The testers who took them on the cart tracks did not report any fade. 
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2021, 12:30:02 PM »
Since we're speculating... or maybe just wishing... how about a new LeMans?

They build the V7 Sport with an 850 motor. How hard would it be to turn that into a LeMans with premium suspension and new bodywork and pipes?

LeMans Light   :sad:
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2021, 12:39:54 PM »
LeMans Light   :sad:

Most of the LeMans bikes produced have been 850's??????? LM I, II, III????
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2021, 12:42:49 PM »
Ugh, I’d rather own a Sportster.
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2021, 12:47:26 PM »
"Nothing wrong with a single disk if it is sized right and mated with the right caliper to do the job."

The KLX is 300+lbs and 300cc's so I'm sure that the single disc isn't a problem but a 100+hp LeMans that would go toe to toe with a Triumph Thruxton RS should have dual discs and good suspension IMO.   
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2021, 12:51:00 PM »
"Nothing wrong with a single disk if it is sized right and mated with the right caliper to do the job."

The KLX is 300+lbs and 300cc's so I'm sure that the single disc isn't a problem but a 100+hp LeMans that would go toe to toe with a Triumph Thruxton RS should have dual discs and good suspension IMO.

A small block isn't going to put out 100 HP, so...just a single disc seems to work fine. Problem solved :)
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2021, 01:49:28 PM »
"Nothing wrong with a single disk if it is sized right and mated with the right caliper to do the job."

The KLX is 300+lbs and 300cc's so I'm sure that the single disc isn't a problem but a 100+hp LeMans that would go toe to toe with a Triumph Thruxton RS should have dual discs and good suspension IMO.

You didn't specify a 100+ HP LeMans in your post though. You didn't specify anything except "small block, single disc?"  Even then, it is all about the size of the disk, whether it is floating, vented, and how large the brake pads and how many pistons on the caliper. 

If they through two 200 mm discs with single pot calipers they would meet two discs and you would be happy I assume. 

Just like people saying a bike needs another gear without specifying that it needs an overdrive gear, a granny gear, or just another gear so that it can have closer ratios. 
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2021, 02:10:13 PM »
You didn't specify anything except "small block, single disc?"

I was asking a question; IMO if it's just a rehash of the small block then why bother with the fuzzy photo if it's just a paint job and a couple of doodads?  The photo implies something so exciting that we want to keep it hidden until it's unveiling, and maybe (hopefully) that is what will happen.

And I'm not trying to go out of my way to be negative here, small blocks are fine, they are what they are and I'm glad they are making money from the bikes at this present time but the competition is moving on.

At least in the past, Guzzi tried to keep up with BMW but that is way in the distant past. Maybe they want to dominate Benelli for the time being?
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2021, 02:12:24 PM »
how the hell can ya'll see if it's a single disk in that pic   :popcorn:
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2021, 02:24:08 PM »
how the hell can ya'll see if it's a single disk in that pic   :popcorn:

I can't see it either, just asked the question, but it does look like a small non-Classic bike with a single rear shock. 
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2021, 02:26:34 PM »
By using imagination?

when MG celebrates their 100 year anniversary a year late at 101.. Maybe they will have time to imagine something new, aren't they always late to the party?
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2021, 03:21:01 PM »
Most of the LeMans bikes produced have been 850's??????? LM I, II, III????

Agreed. That's what I was thinking when I wrote my earlier post. Look how well the new V7s have done for Moto Guzzi - and how similar they appear to the original V7. The original V7 Sport is one of the most collectible post-60s Guzzis. Also highly collectible: the original 850 LeMans, which also happens to be (IMO) one of the best looking bikes Guzzi ever made.

The V7s have attracted a lot of younger (even first-time) riders. Some of them might be ready for 20% more displacement and power. Why not build an 850 LeMans with modern tech and 1977-inspired styling? It could be an upgrade for the V7 owners, and would offer the nostalgia angle for older people.

I don't they will realistically build another real sports bike - at least not so long as Piaggio keeps Aprilia.
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2021, 04:01:28 PM »
Agreed. That's what I was thinking when I wrote my earlier post. Look how well the new V7s have done for Moto Guzzi - and how similar they appear to the original V7. The original V7 Sport is one of the most collectible post-60s Guzzis. Also highly collectible: the original 850 LeMans, which also happens to be (IMO) one of the best looking bikes Guzzi ever made.

The V7s have attracted a lot of younger (even first-time) riders. Some of them might be ready for 20% more displacement and power. Why not build an 850 LeMans with modern tech and 1977-inspired styling? It could be an upgrade for the V7 owners, and would offer the nostalgia angle for older people.

I don't they will realistically build another real sports bike - at least not so long as Piaggio keeps Aprilia.

That bike already exists/existed practically as a factory kit…

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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2021, 04:01:31 PM »
Guzzi sport bikes, cool as they are, weren't competitive since the mid eighties as I recall. 
So I see no reason why Guzzi couldn't offer a Guzzi sport bike now.  It certainly doesn't need to be competitive with the rest of the market, just make it cool, good and fun!

Something like 130hp would be plenty, use a new motor, Guzzi has a long tradition of lots of motor ingenuity, and give it good suspension!   Make it a halo bike for the brand.  Seems easy peasy.
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2021, 04:03:29 PM »
i am not sure that as fun as it is to talk about a retro lemans that there are that many people that really want to own a cafe style bike.  i know my wrists could not take it.  i will definitely test ride it if they build it, but part with real money, doubtful.
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Re: New Guzzi for the 100th (speculation only)
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2021, 06:04:40 PM »
A fresh take on the Rosso Corsa would be easy enough



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