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Title: ‘07 Norge timingchain
Post by: Huzo on December 22, 2019, 01:08:46 PM
This thread has been here before, but I can’t find it.
I still think my Norge sounds a bit slappy in the timing chain. I put a new one in with no dramas and got a new tensioner from Millepercento, to replace the piddly thing that’s currently there.
I also fitted a new spring.
To my dismay, I see there’s a bloody great lump of casting preventing the mounting of the new unit. Is there a way around this issue ?
I’ve asked this before but thought some new technique may have surfaced.
Title: Re: ‘07 Norge timingchain
Post by: guzzisteve on December 22, 2019, 01:33:15 PM
Hey, is it on the RH side by the main bearing mount?  That was from an 03 Hydro motor that's documented here. Thought it may be similar.
Title: Re: ‘07 Norge timingchain
Post by: Frenchfrog on December 22, 2019, 01:36:31 PM
something here Huzo https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100365.0
Title: Re: ‘07 Norge timingchain
Post by: Huzo on December 22, 2019, 01:56:33 PM
Hey, is it on the RH side by the main bearing mount?  That was from an 03 Hydro motor that's documented here. Thought it may be similar.
Yes mate, it’s on the right when viewed from the front..(gearshift side, clutch lever side)
Pete is all over the issue and we’ve spoken about it, so I think I’m rooted.
I just don’t want to ignore something she might be trying to tell me...(the Norge that is, not Pete) :clock: :bike-037:
Title: Re: ‘07 Norge timingchain
Post by: Huzo on December 22, 2019, 02:02:32 PM
something here Huzo https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100365.0
Here’s the one I got from Millepercento.
(https://i.ibb.co/rG061WR/584-C673-A-5172-41-B5-A433-9-C2-F08-BFB68-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rG061WR)

It’s that dirty great lump of casting that’s the fly in the ointment.
The one pictured would fit as designed, under the two adjacent oil pump housing bolts but the casting precludes this.
Bugger..!
Title: Re: ‘07 Norge timingchain
Post by: Brian UK on December 24, 2019, 05:26:34 AM
I found most of one of those tensioners in my Spada III. The spring had broken. Never found the end of it, just as well the bits didn't get caught in the chain. The slipper part was mangled up.
The Guzzi one works fine.
Title: Re: ‘07 Norge timingchain
Post by: Huzo on December 24, 2019, 06:24:10 AM
I found most of one of those tensioners in my Spada III. The spring had broken. Never found the end of it, just as well the bits didn't get caught in the chain. The slipper part was mangled up.
The Guzzi one works fine.
Oh, OK..
Maybe it’s a good job it didn’t fit then.
Title: Re: ‘07 Norge timingchain
Post by: Frenchfrog on December 24, 2019, 08:11:40 AM
The link i posted shows how Bill Owens "blended" the late type mounting plate to a spring loaded valtek tensioner....I'm guessing that that would work on your bike ? You do need to have an oxy acetaline torch to braze the two parts together though....
Title: Re: ‘07 Norge timingchain
Post by: Huzo on December 24, 2019, 01:11:21 PM
I’ll give Pete a listen sometime soon.
It might just be the combined slappiness of a 180,000 k motor, he’ll probably say it’s one of the better ones.
Title: Re: ‘07 Norge timingchain
Post by: Frenchfrog on December 24, 2019, 01:34:59 PM
presumably you put the new chain in? didn't sound bad this summer but neither did mine till I slapped a new one in...have a good one !
Title: Re: ‘07 Norge timingchain
Post by: Huzo on December 24, 2019, 01:47:30 PM
presumably you put the new chain in? didn't sound bad this summer but neither did mine till I slapped a new one in...have a good one !
Yeah, new one in.