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Offline huub

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Re: Uh-Oh, Lario
« Reply #60 on: February 22, 2021, 07:14:56 AM »
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Factory engines survived Dakar, one bike burnt, another is still running here, I know the owner

moto guzzi entered 4 bikes in the 1986 dakar, none of them made it to the finish.
indeed one burned down
that was the end of guzzi's interest in the Dakar...
I tracked down one of the mechanics a couple of years later, when preparing my V65 TT for off road competition.
the term UJ failure was the best they could do to to explain the early DNF without making a fool of themselves. 
but was not the complete story.

Offline Frenchfrog

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Re: Uh-Oh, Lario
« Reply #61 on: February 22, 2021, 08:09:39 AM »
Far from the complete story on the V65 Baja...As far as I know no official entries were made by Guzzi in the Dakar...the 4 Huub refers to were sponsored by the French importer I think. They then saw that the comp department at mandello were getting the Baja together and asked for some to be made to offer to their clientele in France. I know of at least two of these bikes and apart from big chassis mods the engines are pretty stock 2 valve  v 65's. Some like the Australian one were fitted with 4 valve Lario heads , Another variant was entered and won it's class in the French Super Motard championships for a couple  of years. All these bikes were privately entered . The biggest issue with the TT and NTX Guzzis in small block form is the fragility of the swinging arm and UJ combo which is one reason the BAja 's used a big block swinging arm and rear drive. The story goes a lot further into big block territory as Torri who competed in many long distance enduro races developed several big block racers after using baja's ...sadly he didn't receive much help from Guzzi and didn't have much success either and gave up racing , moved to Ethiopia and remained in obscurity until
 a few years ago.

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Re: Uh-Oh, Lario
« Reply #62 on: February 22, 2021, 09:41:02 AM »
Any other Lario owners have the electrics black out at the most inconvenient moment.
I found there's a main molex connector under the tank, the two large pins Positive to the switch and Positive from switch to fuse box in mine were overheating and losing contact.
Eventually after trying to replace the pins I thought, I'm never going to unplug this anyway and crimped it around the connector, no more problems.
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Offline jacksonracingcomau

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Re: Uh-Oh, Lario
« Reply #63 on: February 23, 2021, 12:36:22 AM »
moto guzzi entered 4 bikes in the 1986 dakar, none of them made it to the finish.
indeed one burned down
that was the end of guzzi's interest in the Dakar...
I tracked down one of the mechanics a couple of years later, when preparing my V65 TT for off road competition.
the term UJ failure was the best they could do to to explain the early DNF without making a fool of themselves. 
but was not the complete story.
You might want to read this
http://www.guzzi.com.au/baja/index.shtml
Phil knows all, He just told me more interesting stuff but canít remember detail so wonít try quoting.
His 8 valve has never been apart as far as he knows, revs to 9 like mine does,
Must be others in the world whoíve got them going right, a few racers who got a lot more
Mine is inherently std, valves, rods, pistons, carbs etc etc


Any other Lario owners have the electrics black out at the most inconvenient moment.
I found there's a main molex connector under the tank, the two large pins Positive to the switch and Positive from switch to fuse box in mine were overheating and losing contact.
Eventually after trying to replace the pins I thought, I'm never going to unplug this anyway and crimped it around the connector, no more problems.
Rewired of course, Roy, no one runs std Guzzi 60ís, 70ís or 80ís wiring do they ?

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Re: Uh-Oh, Lario
« Reply #63 on: February 23, 2021, 12:36:22 AM »

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Re: Uh-Oh, Lario
« Reply #64 on: February 24, 2021, 08:31:44 AM »
Any other Lario owners have the electrics black out at the most inconvenient moment.
I found there's a main molex connector under the tank, the two large pins Positive to the switch and Positive from switch to fuse box in mine were overheating and losing contact.
Eventually after trying to replace the pins I thought, I'm never going to unplug this anyway and crimped it around the connector, no more problems.

thanks, KR.. saved in my Lario stuff file. I'll give it a look when I get a round toit.
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