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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #960 on: May 11, 2016, 02:23:40 AM »
what OS, did you install anything? cable from who?
You should see an extra port comming in device manager in windows, and can see on the driver tab what driver is loaded
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #961 on: May 11, 2016, 03:22:11 AM »
Hi Have Windows 10
just reinstalled GuzziDiag VO.47
I have the Lonelec cables
drivers are seen at  my device manager USB Serial Port (com6) which is the cables .
When I connect the cables to bike then battery +and - , open the program on the bottom it says Disconnected.
Under settings I can see COM6 under Com Port and under motorcycle I have California 1400.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #962 on: May 11, 2016, 04:42:32 AM »
If you installed the drivers that came with the cables, un-install them, and install these: LINKY

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #963 on: May 11, 2016, 05:19:47 AM »
well if you see com 6 there is a functioning driver.  You have the kill switch active, so the bike can start if you push the start button?
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #963 on: May 11, 2016, 05:19:47 AM »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #964 on: May 11, 2016, 05:27:56 AM »
Yes bike can start.
Have reinstalled drivers from that clicky.
The best drivers are installed when I did a search under property .
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #965 on: May 11, 2016, 05:39:56 AM »
and what version did install? look at the driver tab. I think the cali 1400 has one diagnostics connector. So that can't go wrong
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #966 on: May 11, 2016, 05:49:10 AM »
USB Serial Port (COM6)



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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #967 on: May 11, 2016, 06:13:49 AM »
look at the driver tab. sometimes the pins of the 3 pin connector don't make contact because of the yellow seal that is stiff. Or they even switched wires in the plug. The led goes on when you connect it to the bike?
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #968 on: May 11, 2016, 06:23:01 AM »
The led does show up when connected to bike.
Getting ridicules 1st I bought the wrong cables now with the correct cables still won't work.Grrrrrrrrr
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #969 on: May 11, 2016, 06:47:24 AM »
Going to bed now getting late here in OZland , will give it another go tomorrow stay tune!

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #970 on: May 11, 2016, 12:06:27 PM »
There has to be visible damage before a claim is accepted and the machine must have a full service history.

If you have a FSH though and when inspected there is damage a claim can be put in and as long as all the i's are dotted and t's crossed you should be able to get a kit. You will have to pay for installation though.

Unfortunately when visible damage becomes apparent varies depending on a number of circumstances but generally by 10,000 km it will be well advanced.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #971 on: May 11, 2016, 12:52:40 PM »
Going to bed now getting late here in OZland , will give it another go tomorrow stay tune!

Sorry if this is stating the obvious, but did you open the menu point and click on "connect"?
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #972 on: May 11, 2016, 01:04:06 PM »
Going to bed now getting late here in OZland , will give it another go tomorrow stay tune!

 you do plug into a connector that has blue/ green and white/blue wires on it?
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #973 on: May 13, 2016, 01:48:46 AM »
you do plug into a connector that has blue/ green and white/blue wires on it?

I'm back now to give it another go...
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #974 on: May 13, 2016, 01:52:26 AM »
you do plug into a connector that has blue/ green and white/blue wires on it?

Not sure which wires you on about mine are silver that hoes into PC (USB) and have black for the rest I got them here :
http://lonelec.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=57_20&product_id=51

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #975 on: May 13, 2016, 04:50:27 PM »
Trimixdiver,

I'm not the expert here, but you might try the following.

When the USB and power cables are connected to the bike, the LED on the cable comes on, right?

Now, open Guzzidiag, hit file/ preferences. Select your bike and select com 6. Exit settings.

Now file/ connect and see if it connects. If it does not, try another com port and repeat until you pick the correct one.

Remember to follow the key on prompts and have your kill switch in the run position, but do not start bike.

For some reason, every time I use Guzzidiag I have to select the com port.

Hope this helps,
Tom
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #976 on: May 13, 2016, 05:08:30 PM »
For some reason, every time I use Guzzidiag I have to select the com port.

Hope this helps,
Tom

 Tom, if you have the program in a place where it can write, it should write an ini file that saves settings. Of do you run it out of the zip file direct?
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #977 on: May 13, 2016, 05:14:56 PM »
Trimix, have you tried running as administrator? Assuming Windoze.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #978 on: May 13, 2016, 05:16:38 PM »
Trimixdiver,

I'm not the expert here, but you might try the following.

When the USB and power cables are connected to the bike, the LED on the cable comes on, right?

Now, open Guzzidiag, hit file/ preferences. Select your bike and select com 6. Exit settings.

Now file/ connect and see if it connects. If it does not, try another com port and repeat until you pick the correct one.

Remember to follow the key on prompts and have your kill switch in the run position, but do not start bike.

For some reason, every time I use Guzzidiag I have to select the com port.

Hope this helps,
Tom

Tom I have tried all of this, even only have one USB on my PC showing Com 6 only.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #979 on: May 13, 2016, 05:19:52 PM »
Paul,

I extracted the .exe and made a folder for it. Shortcut to the .exe on the desktop. For some reason the cable is on lets say, com 1 sometimes. Turn off computer, then start computer, the cable might be on com 2 this time. Not a big deal, need to take a minute to try to fix that. I think it may have started after a Win 8.X update because somehow I have two com ports, originally only had one.

Thank you,
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #980 on: May 13, 2016, 05:38:45 PM »
Trimixdiver,

I had hoped that it was something simple that may have been overlooked. Dumb question, is there another model or year bike listed that is similar to yours like a '13 instead of '14? Might try it if there is?

EDIT: One thing that bothers me is that sounds like you only have 1 com port and it's com6. With Win 10 this may be the way it is, but with XP-8.X there is normally a com1. Is there a com1-5 that are being used for other devices?
CAUTION CHECK WITH AN EXPERT FIRST: Might try deleting com6 and restart the computer and let if find a new com port.

Good luck with getting it connected, gotta be something simple??
Tom
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #981 on: May 13, 2016, 05:47:45 PM »
Sorry if this is stating the obvious, but did you open the menu point and click on "connect"?

We never heard if you are click on 'connect' in the menu.
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« Reply #982 on: May 13, 2016, 05:49:30 PM »
Shortcut to the .exe on the desktop.

Do all of the path properties in the shortcut refer to the folder you created?
It is NOT a compressed folder I assume.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #983 on: May 13, 2016, 05:55:16 PM »
BINGO  :thumb: :bow: Showing connected.
Got it guys thanks so much, it was the wireless mouse TOGGLE, all I did was take out , basically have nothing connected, I open GuggiDiag using Admin then followed directions.
Hope this can help other once again thanks.
ps now how to use GuggiDiag.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #984 on: May 13, 2016, 05:58:48 PM »
Trimixdiver,

I had hoped that it was something simple that may have been overlooked. Dumb question, is there another model or year bike listed that is similar to yours like a '13 instead of '14? Might try it if there is?

EDIT: One thing that bothers me is that sounds like you only have 1 com port and it's com6. With Win 10 this may be the way it is, but with XP-8.X there is normally a com1. Is there a com1-5 that are being used for other devices?
CAUTION CHECK WITH AN EXPERT FIRST: Might try deleting com6 and restart the computer and let if find a new com port.

Good luck with getting it connected, gotta be something simple??
Tom

Tom you were pretty close to how I got it going .
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #985 on: May 13, 2016, 06:01:05 PM »
OMG,

My shortcut if working fine, the .ini is saving the settings between sessions. Just for whatever reason the tablet style computer added a second com port and the USB cable sometimes switches between the two ports when I turn on the computer for the day. Monday it might be on com1, Tuesday it could be on com2.

Other than the com thing, everything works fine, provided i follow the prompts :wink:

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« Reply #986 on: May 13, 2016, 06:36:23 PM »
Trimixdiver,

Congrats!!

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« Reply #987 on: May 13, 2016, 11:33:34 PM »
OMG,

My shortcut if working fine, the .ini is saving the settings between sessions. Just for whatever reason the tablet style computer added a second com port and the USB cable sometimes switches between the two ports when I turn on the computer for the day. Monday it might be on com1, Tuesday it could be on com2.

Other than the com thing, everything works fine, provided i follow the prompts :wink:

Tom

Ah, got it.

On mine, in the device manager, under port settings/advanced, I can set the port to a fixed number that doesn't change. Have you tried a different com that may be 'stable'?

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #988 on: May 14, 2016, 12:16:52 AM »
I will look at that. Only two show up and one or the other works with the USB cable, just need to figure out which at each session. Easy enough for now.

If you have read my problems with my bike, fixing a com port was the last thing on my mind while trying to get the poor bike to run right. Wrong map, wrong ECU, get right ECU for bike, wrong map in it and so on. Now that it's running pretty damn good, thanks again to all, I will have to fix the computer. Not the first time on a PC that I've had to configure a port, modem, CD, floppy or the like (once Plug and Play actually worked, damn it made life easy). Just need to take the time to do it.

Now where is that OBD plug on my old Ambo, I think it needs a tune up!! :wink:

Thank you!
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #989 on: May 14, 2016, 12:40:05 AM »
Hi There,
 I'm really interested in using Guzzidiag to maintain my 02 cali EV (hydraulic tappet model, ecu behind the l/h side panel), but there's been a lot of correspondence and I'm slightly confused by the procedure.
 It makes sense to back up the map as  a start. Does the map I'm saving tell me the stock settings that should be used with the bike or does it tell me what they currently are?
Next base line the tps and set the idle voltage, but are these both done mechanically and with a volt meter or via  the software? Do I need to baseline the tps every time I sevice the bike?
When I come to setting the CO2 level, do i need a gas analyser tool (they aren't the cheapest tool) and again adjust mechanically via the air bleed screws or is it via the software. If it is via the software, what would be a" normal " value range? Is it telling me how much I've increased/decreased or a percentage value of CO2?

This is the first fuel injected bike I've owned , but on previous guzzi's I've maintained them happily with a  colourtune kit and an electronic carb balancer. I'm only really interested in maintaining the EV instandard trim (at the moment) and the software does seem an easy way to do it.

 

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