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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #990 on: May 14, 2016, 02:23:29 AM »
Now that I have GuzziDiag  working , what should I 1st check , are there any changers I need to know other than errors / faults...shit that should be 1st where do find this?
ps how do I post pics?
« Last Edit: May 14, 2016, 04:37:15 AM by trimixdiver »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #991 on: May 14, 2016, 08:11:39 AM »
This is the first fuel injected bike I've owned , but on previous guzzi's I've maintained them happily with a  colourtune kit and an electronic carb balancer. I'm only really interested in maintaining the EV instandard trim (at the moment) and the software does seem an easy way to do it.


That colortune and electronic balancer should be all you need. And of course GuzziDiag.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #992 on: May 19, 2016, 09:35:34 AM »
I am having difficulty with GuzziDiag v0.47.

Platform is Toshiba P50 with Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS
Using Lonelec cables
Have blue LED light
Plugged into USB 2.0 port
Drivers extracted to directory called GuzziDiag
Directory structure is correct according to the ReadMe.txt doc
Followed instructions in ReadMe.txt for granting permissions and linking files.
Followed instructions in ReadMe.txt for removing modules FTDI_SIO and USBSERIAL as administrator.

Running GuzziDiag or IAW5X Reader I cannot see the port - in GuzziDiag the Connect selection from the File menu is greyed out - with a Disconnected message at bottom of window.

When attempting to READ the ECU map with IAW5X Reader - after selecting the directory and filename for the file, get error message 'Was Not Able to Open'.
I have granted permissions to the directory for any to read/write via the "chmod" command...

'lsusb' command shows the FTDI device

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« Last Edit: May 19, 2016, 10:03:39 AM by twowings »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #993 on: May 19, 2016, 10:05:19 AM »
Drivers extracted to directory called GuzziDiag

?
Sounds like the driver isn't loading.

Does the COM port show up in the 'device manager'?

Have you run the "AdapterTest" to see if it communicates?
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #993 on: May 19, 2016, 10:05:19 AM »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #994 on: May 19, 2016, 10:09:45 AM »
What is "device manager"?

From the Lonelec.co.uk support webpage:

"the FTDI VCP driver is built into the Linux kernel"

lsusb shows the device on the port...

twowings@RoadAmerica:~$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 8087:07dc Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8000 Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04f2:b3b1 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 USB-Serial (UART) IC
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
twowings@RoadAmerica:~$
« Last Edit: May 19, 2016, 10:14:35 AM by twowings »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #995 on: May 19, 2016, 10:28:43 AM »
OK.  Might be a bit difficult for you if you do not know what Device Manager is.  It is part of the computer that allows you to see what hardware is being used & what drivers are installed.  I would highly recommend you get somebody who has computer knowledge to help you with this.

You should not use the drivers that came with the cables.  If you will go back to the first page of this thread and read carefully you will find links to the proper drivers, download them.

Now get some help with this because you will need to get rid of the old drivers & use the correct drivers but if you don't know how to find & use the device manager it would be too hard for any one to walk you through it.

We all had to learn this stuff just like we all learned how to rebuild carbs & engines many years ago. 

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #996 on: May 19, 2016, 10:40:27 AM »
"the FTDI VCP driver is built into the Linux kernel"

Oops, I missed the Ubuntu part.

Did you try the adapter test?
« Last Edit: May 19, 2016, 10:52:02 AM by OMG »
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #997 on: May 19, 2016, 10:57:52 AM »
Yes, adapter test returns same error...firewall is OFF

dmesg | grep FTDI shows FTDI connected to ttyUSB0 which is correct...


I think it must be a access permissions error of some sort....going to research the USB port permissions...
« Last Edit: May 19, 2016, 02:52:07 PM by twowings »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #998 on: May 19, 2016, 04:52:30 PM »
I've ordered a "B" roller kit for my 2010 Stelvio and am wondering if there's a different fueling map to use when the change is made.   I have the single lambda and the bike is stock.  I've tried searching this thread, but haven't found an answer.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #999 on: May 19, 2016, 05:28:35 PM »
I've ordered a "B" roller kit for my 2010 Stelvio and am wondering if there's a different fueling map to use when the change is made.   I have the single lambda and the bike is stock.  I've tried searching this thread, but haven't found an answer.

I have a single lambda roller map for a Stelvio. You're welcome to try it of you want. Just send me a PM with your email address.
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beetle

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1000 on: May 20, 2016, 03:18:40 AM »
 Twowings, have you tried running GuzziDiag as root?

twowings

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1001 on: May 20, 2016, 06:19:03 AM »
Yes...and absolutely nothing happens...no gui interface...no error message...nothing

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1002 on: May 20, 2016, 07:04:34 AM »
OK, so you get no GUI? You're running from a shell or the desktop?

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1003 on: May 20, 2016, 07:33:08 AM »
OK, so you get no GUI? You're running from a shell or the desktop?

Hmmm? Yes, it's addictive, just try and ignore the dross. There are a lot of good people here :thumb:

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1004 on: May 20, 2016, 08:17:40 AM »
Or trying to run the 64 bit version under 32 bit Linux? But that would throw an error. It's late and I'm tired.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1005 on: May 20, 2016, 08:53:54 AM »
Ubuntu 16.04 is 64-bit OS...using 64-bit Linux apps from http://www.von-der-salierburg.de/download/GuzziDiag/

desktop and command line....no joy...

Here's debug output from 'gksu' command:

twowings@RoadAmerica:~/GuzziDiag$ gksudo -u root -d AdapterTest_V1.01_x 64
No ask_pass set, using default!
xauth: /tmp/libgksu-bd4pGP/.Xauthority
STARTUP_ID: gksudo/AdapterTest_V1.01_x64/16853-0-RoadAmerica_TIME3548411
cmd[0]: /usr/bin/sudo
cmd[1]: -H
cmd[2]: -S
cmd[3]: -p
cmd[4]: GNOME_SUDO_PASS
cmd[5]: -u
cmd[6]: root
cmd[7]: --
cmd[8]: AdapterTest_V1.01_x 64
buffer: -GNOME_SUDO_PASS-
brute force GNOME_SUDO_PASS ended...
Yeah, we're in...
xauth: /tmp/libgksu-bd4pGP/.Xauthority
xauth_env: /home/twowings/.Xauthority
dir: /tmp/libgksu-bd4pGP
twowings@RoadAmerica:~/GuzziDiag$

twowings@RoadAmerica:~/GuzziDiag$ gksudo -u root -d GuzziDiag_V0.46_x64
No ask_pass set, using default!
xauth: /tmp/libgksu-7R4MNw/.Xauthority
STARTUP_ID: gksudo/GuzziDiag_V0.46_x64/17916-0-RoadAmerica_TIME3877908
cmd[0]: /usr/bin/sudo
cmd[1]: -H
cmd[2]: -S
cmd[3]: -p
cmd[4]: GNOME_SUDO_PASS
cmd[5]: -u
cmd[6]: root
cmd[7]: --
cmd[8]: GuzziDiag_V0.46_x64
buffer: -GNOME_SUDO_PASS-
brute force GNOME_SUDO_PASS ended...
Yeah, we're in...
xauth: /tmp/libgksu-7R4MNw/.Xauthority
xauth_env: /home/twowings/.Xauthority
dir: /tmp/libgksu-7R4MNw
twowings@RoadAmerica:~/GuzziDiag$


It prompts for root password then quits....I'm stumped so far...

Here's the output of 'dmesg' command and 'lsusb' command immediately after plugging in USB cable:

 1616.560386] ftdi_sio ttyUSB0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
[ 1616.560406] ftdi_sio 2-1:1.0: device disconnected
[ 1710.378370] usb 2-1: new full-speed USB device number 12 using xhci_hcd
[ 1710.512296] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0403, idProduct=6001
[ 1710.512302] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 1710.512304] usb 2-1: Product: FT232R USB UART
[ 1710.512307] usb 2-1: Manufacturer: FTDI
[ 1710.512309] usb 2-1: SerialNumber: AL02BRL5
[ 1710.514942] ftdi_sio 2-1:1.0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
[ 1710.514979] usb 2-1: Detected FT232RL
[ 1710.515264] usb 2-1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB0
twowings@RoadAmerica:~$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 8087:07dc Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8000 Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader
Bus 002 Device 012: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 USB-Serial (UART) IC
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
twowings@RoadAmerica:~$

I have administrator priveleges, 'automatically mount devices' is checked in System>Preferences, and I've tried to use AdapterTest and GuzziDiag both with the wireless USB mouse plugged in and without USB wireless mouse...

The 'COM' port fields in the applications always remain greyed out...

'Connect' in GuzziDiag just greys out after clicking on it and the message at the bottom of GuzziDiag stays at 'Disconnected' ....

I'm sure this is a config issue but I'm at a loss of where to go next...
« Last Edit: May 20, 2016, 10:08:26 AM by twowings »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1006 on: May 20, 2016, 05:11:51 PM »
OK, so the GuzziDiag gui opens?

With the cable plugged in and powered, check that you have device USB0 in /dev/tts
Attributes: 666

Create a symlink /dev/ttyUSB0  -> tts/USB0

Even with superuser privileges, make sure you are part of the dialout group.

Let me know how that goes.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2016, 06:37:05 PM by beetle »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1007 on: May 20, 2016, 06:28:53 PM »
will do...thanks, beetle!  I'm deeply into Friday night here if you know what I mean...but I will give her a go tomorrow morning...want to try the new Norge map to tame low-RPM throttle response and popping on overrun....

twowings

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1008 on: May 24, 2016, 12:46:24 PM »
Grabbed the wife's Windows machine and everything went perfectly...didn't even need to trim COs...new map is GREAT...Didnt think I could get any more fond of this bike, but I just did!  Thanks, guys...What a fantastic tool you've given us!

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1009 on: May 24, 2016, 04:56:49 PM »
Gave up on Linux, eh?    :cry:  :violent1:

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1010 on: May 24, 2016, 05:25:48 PM »
Yes, I just wanted to have the map loaded before June's many events....haven't ridden it far enough to let auto-learning take over (we're having a full week of thunderstorms) but just got in about 15 miles and the difference is already apparent...I will keep trying linux (which I much prefer) but for now the new map is loaded and I'm happy... :thumb:

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1011 on: May 24, 2016, 05:35:23 PM »
Auto learning is switched off. The map is open loop.

twowings

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1012 on: May 24, 2016, 05:37:18 PM »
ooops...my bad...I stand chastised...

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1013 on: May 24, 2016, 06:16:02 PM »
 :whip2: Damn straight.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1014 on: May 26, 2016, 08:04:10 PM »
I had once heard and have noticed that the Calvin to V11 Sport map was a good choice, but with heeded warnings that the ignition maps were very different.  So I swapped the 15RC with a 15M V11 Sport  ecu/map and took a look at the two with tuner pro (wish I could compare different .XDF) and noticed that the V11 sport had much more ignition retardation, am I wrong in this observation?  Also I know too much advance can ruin an engine real quick but how about retardation?  I figure just major power loss.  Initial run has me optimistic.

I also have a Rosso Corsa Map which would need me to change back to the 15RC I take it anything else too look out for?

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1015 on: May 28, 2016, 04:04:59 PM »
Cant get Diag to do anything other than telling me there is an initialization error.  i have the Lonelec leads and have connected to the correct connector but no matter how many tries i have i cant get it to read the ECU

any suggestions
« Last Edit: May 28, 2016, 04:05:44 PM by jim mac »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1016 on: May 28, 2016, 04:45:14 PM »
Jim, if you're using Windows, do not use the drivers that come with cables. Use these: LINKY

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1017 on: May 28, 2016, 05:14:42 PM »
Thanks Beetle,
I'll  give that a try

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1018 on: May 28, 2016, 06:07:13 PM »
Jim (scra99tch),

Keep in mind the CalVin (15RC) map is trimmed by the ECU. The ignition map was made with that consideration. The V11 (15M) map has a bit less advance at low rpm/idle, but more up top where it counts.

Regarding the ignition too much can cause poor performance because the fuel starts burning in the cylinder as opposed to the combustion chamber. This can also result in excess heat in the cylinder block.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1019 on: May 29, 2016, 03:09:13 AM »
Thanks Beetle,
I'll  give that a try

 little information here, what bike?
when in windows you goto device manager, lookup the port, (with cable connected) and tell us what driver and version is loaded.
what windows version? 
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