Texans, if the rain wasn't bad enough... NGC Chili content.

[Kent in Upstate NY]

http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1016036-texas-chili?kwp_0=57169&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook_Paid&utm_campaign=Recipes&kwp_4=320237&kwp_1=210403

[El Pescador]

I don't need to cook this dish to know that it's not chili based on two heresies...

NY Times
Beans don't belong in chili

[Lannis]

I don't need to cook this dish to know that it's not chili based on two heresies...

NY Times
Beans don't belong in chili

The bad news, however, is that a TEXAN was quoted by the NYT as saying ...


 “I don’t disagree with anyone’s chili,” Robb Walsh, a Texas food historian, the author of “The Tex-Mex Cookbook” and a restaurateur, told The Times. “If you are making a one-pot meal and you want to put beans in it, that’s fine."

If it's got beans in it, it might be a "one pot meal" but it's not chili ....

Lannis

[nunzio]

I'm sure EVERY chuckwagon in Texas had...

15-ounce can cannellini or other white beans...

[oldbike54]

I'm sure EVERY chuckwagon in Texas had...

15-ounce can cannellini or other white beans...

 Mostly pinto beans were employed , so maybe the old time Texans thought chili could contain beans .

  Dusty

[PJPR01]

Oh Lordy Lordy...here we go again.  This is like an Oil thread...there is no one rigid rule...just preferences.

[rocker59]

"no beans allowed" at any chilli cook off I've ever been too.

Even judged one, one time...

[oldbike54]

Oh Lordy Lordy...here we go again.  This is like an Oil thread...there is no one rigid rule...just preferences.

 Hell , I've never understood the fascination with chili anyway , just a way of using up meat that would otherwise go to the
dogs 

 

  Dusty

[PJPR01]

Hell , I've never understood the fascination with chili anyway , just a way of using up meat that would otherwise go to the dogs        Dusty

 

ROFL!! 

[nunzio]

Hell , I've never understood the fascination with chili anyway , just a way of using up meat that would otherwise go to the
dogs 

 

  Dusty

Fajita meat is in that category!!!!!

The first Fajita cookoff I ever went to was in 1973 more or less...I had never heard of Fajitas until then.


By the way ...

Why do people ruin Bar-b-que by pouring some sort of sauce all over it?    :Beating_A_Dead_Hors e_by_liviu  (irony)

[nunzio]

The "Bean thing" I think depends on your situation growing up.

We didn't have much money,so,......We had beans of some kind with EVERY meal !!!!

Either in the main dish or as a side....Cheapest thing to fill a kid up with.

Refried bean on white bread sandwiches for school lunches,not all the time,but seemed more of them at the end of the month....Alan

[oldbike54]

The "Bean thing" I think depends on your situation growing up.

We didn't have much money,so,......We had beans of some kind with EVERY meal !!!!

Either in the main dish or as a side....Cheapest thing to fill a kid up with.

Refried bean on white bread sandwiches for school lunches,not all the time,but seemed more of them at the end of the month....Alan

 Never had refried beans until about 20 years of age , now they are a favorite . On toast , mixed with rice and salsa , on nachos , dang , 

  Dusty

[Guzzistajohn]

I like my chili with beans. I also cook my ribs to the point where they fall off the bone, doesn't make them contest winners but I'm cooking for me not some judge. <shrug>

[boatdetective]

Hmmmm. I'm not so picky about the bean thing. I just had chili in Chama, NM and it had beans. The lady servin it up seemed to have, shall we say, a certain ethnic imperative to call it chili- so who am i to complain?

I do have one rule: no hamburger/ground beef in chili. It's just so damned lazy.

I would posit that it's pretty easy to make passable chili- but truly great chili is another matter altogether. I have one tasty recipe that calls for a minimum of four different kinds of peppers. I think it really does make for a greater "range" of flavors in there (from dried poblanos, to jalapeno, to chipotle in adobo, to habanero as the chili "alpha predator".

[Rich A]

I have one tasty recipe that calls for a minimum of four different kinds of peppers. I think it really does make for a greater "range" of flavors in there (from dried poblanos, to jalapeno, to chipotle in adobo, to habanero as the chili "alpha predator".

Not only that, but in many recipes, there's a proper sequence to add each kind of chile (and there's an ongoing debate as to whether the dried things are called chiles or chilis).

Rich A

[brenwin]

My wife is allergic to peppers and garlic and doesn't like onions , cooked or otherwise . If it wasn't for beans there would be nothing in it .

I make two pots now of course , there is always a solution but I love beans in my chili .

Steve

[LowRyter]

My wife makes the Chili and she tells me the two ingredients are Chili Powder + Cumin. 

That's the two essential taste elements. 

I prefer no beans myself.  But the recipe had the two essentials.

Beware of chili "experts" that don't know to use cumin. 

[davedel44]

Oh Lordy Lordy...here we go again.  This is like an Oil thread...there is no one rigid rule...just preferences.

Despite what my lovely wife and Paul say chili (at least texas chili) does not contain beans or macaroni either.  Butt out cheeseheads

God bless Texas and God bless Todd Haven.

BTW MPH has some smoking deals on 2014 Grisos, V7s and Californias. 

Dave
Galveston
Galveston, Texas!

[davedel44]

The "Bean thing" I think depends on your situation growing up.

We didn't have much money,so,......We had beans of some kind with EVERY meal !!!!

Either in the main dish or as a side....Cheapest thing to fill a kid up with.

Refried bean on white bread sandwiches for school lunches,not all the time,but seemed more of them at the end of the month....Alan

Beans and corn tortillas or corn bread make a complete protein.  Bean samwiches on Mrs Bairds bread also good. Maybe with an ice cold Dr. Pepper when we were flush.
Larapin!

Beans as a side dish or as a main dish fine.  Chili with a side of beans. Great.  If you wanted to mix your bean in you chili well that sin was on your head. 

Dave
Galveston

[PJPR01]

Nice one Dave!  :)

I concur on the macaroni part...always hated that anyway...but beans or no beans in chili is fine with me...both are tasty.  Brown baked beans, garbanzos, kidneys, black beans, refried beans...they're all tasty! 

I think being dogmatic on any point just isn't worth it...mental flexibility is the key to happiness...But again, chili is sort of like religion and politics - and I am not one to try and convince people to change their way of thinking or faith, as long as one can have a fun and good natured discussion, even if we may disagree on some points. 

Now..back to my BBQ without sauce, a real pity Luckenbach was a washout or we could have stopped by Lockhart on the way out or back!

Or perhaps now would be the time to start a Bratwurst thread...hhmm...

[oldbike54]

 A note from the mods



                                                                                    NO BRATWURST THREADS

 Last one started a fight between the Franconians and the Thungurians , not to mention the awful ruckus involving the 
kraut/no kraut factions on WG . The Iowegians and the Nebraskans almost came to blows over the question of whether beef or pork makes the best filling , and we all know how contentious veal is .

  Dusty

[PJPR01]

A note from the mods



                                                                                    NO BRATWURST THREADS

 Last one started a fight between the Franconians and the Thungurians , not to mention the awful ruckus involving the 
kraut/no kraut factions on WG . The Iowegians and the Nebraskans almost came to blows over the question of whether beef or pork makes the best filling , and we all know how contentious veal is .   Dusty

Ok...how about a double Brat thread then, ya hey?  I always liked my brats side by each!!  :)

[oldbike54]

Ok...how about a double Brat thread then, ya hey?

 Well , sure , a double brat thread is fine . Wait , is this turning into a Monty Python skit ?

 "You sir , are a silly brat for suggesting such a thing " 


  Dusty

[boatdetective]

Ahhh-  am I correct? Did our dear moderator willingly- dare I say surreptitiously- drift the thread into a discussion about meat in tube form?? 

[oldbike54]

Ahhh-  am I correct? Did our dear moderator willingly- dare I say surreptitiously- drift the thread into a discussion about meat in tube form?? 

 Well... I wasn't the first , but willingly admit to egging it on a bit <shrugs shoulders> .

  Dusty

[SmithSwede]

I live in Texas.  And let me just say this.  I like beans in my chili--it's supposed to be a meal, not a hot dog dressing!  Heck, I even like a little corn in my chili.  Because corn goes good with chili. So put the corn in the chili for some variety.   

And for love of Sam Houston--don't make chili too freaking hot!   It's supposed to be a savory meat stew.   Hot is fine, as a flavoring.   But just mindlessly dumping in extra Habanero peppers is not the ticket to success. 

OK, I'll admit I'm not a native Texan.   Flame away. 

[sib]

.....Beware of chili "experts" that don't know to use cumin.

But, it can't be ground cumin from the bottle.  You have to start with whole cumin seeds, heat them gently in a skillet until they get toasty brown, let them cool, and then grind them in a mortar with a pestle.  Huge improvement over pre-ground.

[nunzio]

Ok...how about a double Brat thread then, ya hey?  I always liked my brats side by each!!  :)

Do you simmer your Brats in Beer and onions before you grill them?   

[Bonafide Bob]

  I'm the only one here that likes Chili made with Wick Fowler mix?
 

[fubar guzzi]

Well I think your all soakin wet,Im a northern TEXAN an I should know.MY unwife of 33 years is from the absalout(spelled like the vodka)south of TEXAS,I however am native to NEW HAMPSHIRE so that makes me ahalfway TEXAN.Now real chili has tomatoes (has anyone mentioned tomatoes)? forget hamburg use beef chunks it has got to have brown sugar an a tinch of mollasess. Beans well that's optional but without its nothing! Gutta have kidney beans in there somewhere,an if your a real Guisita (sounds like its spelled)(???) half a dOLLUP turnip juice. Thats all im gonna say bout that!!!