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Once agean a reviewer moaning the lack of 150HP, high tech multivalve motors with liquid cooling and speed shifters on every bike produced.. He did have some points, but IMHO the modern bike reviewers do more harm then good to the buyer... Only pushing that "next best thing" for the manufactures.
Once again a reviewer moaning the lack of 150HP, high tech multivalve motors with liquid cooling and speed shifters on every bike produced..
I admit that I'm out of the loop on new machines but-- speed shifters on new bikes is a thing now? Mechanical speed shifters? I had no idea.I rode the V85 and loved it. Wish I could afford one right now.
100% agree. Once a new “thing” is offered on a bike the reviewers trash any bike that comes along without it.Does one really need a lot more than 80 HP on a 500lb machine. And while I haven’t looked up msrp’s I doubt the V85tt is much different then others in that class
Not too many riders can use the 28HP a Ninja 250 puts out. 80HP or more is certainly not needed on any motorcycle.
I hear this a lot and can only think some folks need to come visit me and see what works in a world where you have high speed highways and have to regularly buck 20+ MPH head winds to get anywhere. I guess if I only rode around towns and slow tight back roads, a 250 would be OK, but I live in a bigger world than that.
The fact is THIS sounds like the usual excuse that some use to justify a smaller motorcycle which in reality is meant for a different purpose than bikes of twice or three times the hp and the torque needed for touring with passenger and or gear..The reality is smaller motorcycles with less power are only just adequate for highway speeds and dangerous if required to pass quickly ....Power corrupts those that are weak to start with. the V85 is more than adequate whereas a Versys 300 for example would probably leave most unimpressed for the same duty.
You either want one or you don’t, what’s anyone going to be able to say that’ll sway any considered opinion that you already hold ?
Spot on.I stopped reading and writing comments about 9 months ago.Most readings are errrr... remarkable.Of course there is a recall. I expected (brand new bike), and rightly trusted Guzzi to make the recall. Many other brands would not have.And yes, it has flaws, nothing is perfect.It is slightly overweight, gets dirty too easily and has trouble staying upright when standing still (too long a sidestand). Among other things.Actually, it reminds me of me after a night out...But it is a joy to see and to ride. Totally unlike me.
...so can't be any worse than that.
Darren, if I had to move to Oklahoma I would probably give up riding. Doesn't sound like a fun place to be riding a bike. So glad I live in Tennessee where there are hundreds of miles of deserted twisty roads right out my back door. The trees are so thick you barely notice any wind until the Tornadoes come. :)
5:0x40f492eb53002a5c!8m2!3d38.536456!4d-84.8418926" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.google.com/maps/place/Owenton,+KYemail@example.com,-84.801809,34986m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x8842020a420fcec 5:0x40f492eb53002a5c!8m2!3d38.536456!4d-84.8418926If you paste this and look for 227, it is in the middle. The turns you see are generally marked 25-40mph. The ground is undulating and bumpy in places because the pavement suffers from being subsided and many of the turns are off camber. In addition, you never know when you come around a turn whether there will be a heaved piece of road, a pile of gravel or a pile of manure in your path. The 80 or however many ponies and the 500 lbs. weight of the V85 allows me at 200 lbs to take this road in 5th gear between 50 and 60 mph for the most part and on the worst turns 40mph. Note: KY road dept. does not believe in shoulders on their roads, so it is blacktop or ditch. Keeping the engine at 3,000 or above is all that is needed. I could go faster in 4th gear all the way, but it would start to feel like work. At my regular pace, it is a practically effortless dance. I did this yesterday when it was about 42 degrees and sunny and it was magnificent. It is hard to describe to people who have not ridden one of these V85s, how effortless it is on roads like that at a pace like that, it just swishes from one turn to the next. For me, this is the maximum fun on a bike. Maybe not everyone else though. The HP is so easy to access and the fueling is so well implemented. I used to be able to hustle my K1200RS (130 hp), my Victory (100 hp) and my 1400 Cali (95 hp) through these turns pretty fast as well, but it felt like work and was tiring by the end. Could you go faster on the 250 Ninja, I bet a good rider could, but you would have to ring its neck and it would not be relaxing I am sure. Also, that road would be a great challenge to its suspension. For anyone who visits this area - don't miss this road.
I remember the day it hit me... I liked them since a test ride in the early 90's.. But just got my first last winter. A few weeks into riding it, im on a mountain road with it, and it came to me... you know... this is a lifetime bike... Not a stepping stone to the next.. There will be others, and I will adapt the one I have to suit me.. But really I would have no reason for wanting to get rid of it. It can be adapted, it can be fixed.. it can be whatever I want it to me..
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