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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #240 on: August 20, 2014, 08:46:51 AM »
No i cant browse the file system just see it but cant get nowhere.i have tried to open macintosh hd but nothing happens.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #241 on: August 20, 2014, 08:54:50 AM »
Solved it had to push some more buttons aint much of a hacker. :)

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #242 on: August 20, 2014, 10:25:53 AM »
Solved it had to push some more buttons aint much of a hacker. :)

Don't feel bad.  I had several operator interface failures myself. ::) ;)  It is great software when the operator uses it properly. ;D :D
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« Reply #243 on: August 25, 2014, 08:04:47 PM »
Hey guys, i must've had a wee gaff on my guzzidiag and am having major cold start issues. Anyway i am wondering if anybody out there could let me peep at there somewhat stock map?...

My bike is an 02 v11 LeMans. Thanks guys.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #244 on: August 25, 2014, 10:40:39 PM »
I'm also having cold start issues with my 2001 V11S (15M). I've reflashed it a few times with the stock map (and even slightly modified) with the same results. If I put in my spare ECU, it fires up within 1 second and idles perfectly.
Anybody else having issues with their 15M ECU?
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #245 on: August 26, 2014, 05:16:25 PM »
SO you have two ecu with same map and they behave different? Same Co trim setting?
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #246 on: August 26, 2014, 06:40:17 PM »
SO you have two ecu with same map and they behave different? Same Co trim setting?
Yes, same CO trim setting. I've tried maps from each ECU with the same results. The only difference I've noticed between the two ECU's is cold starting issue which have been going on since last year when I first used GD.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #247 on: August 26, 2014, 07:15:31 PM »
   I loaded guzzdiag after I did my first throttle body balance and removed the canister at 3,500 miles.  My bike suffered with cold start issues before and after loading Guzzidiag.  At around 7,500 miles I revisited the throttle body balance and being more familiar with the carbtech balancer I really dialed it in closer.  I was surprised how much adjustment was needed to get the left cyl in line with the right.  I have no cold start problems ever since.  Even have a nice high idle until engine starts to warm up. 
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #248 on: September 15, 2014, 10:13:58 AM »
Yes, same CO trim setting. I've tried maps from each ECU with the same results. The only difference I've noticed between the two ECU's is cold starting issue which have been going on since last year when I first used GD.
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After downloading the newest XDF and Tunerpro (looks like earlier versions had bugs), the latest map on my V11 works flawlessly. It's also a good idea to have a fully charged battery when uploading new maps.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #249 on: September 15, 2014, 10:22:08 AM »
Now, the issue with my 2009 V7C. As stated above, I have the newest XDF and Tunerpro, but my V7C won't start or run properly with a modified map. On my last attempt, I just changed cold start time to 2000 instead of 4000, and it wouldn't start. When I load the original map back on, it starts right up.

When I load the 15RC XDF into Tunerpro, I also get settings for my V11. I don't know why it's doing this, but that may be the issue. I deleted all of the V11 settings from the XDF, but that didn't work either.
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« Reply #250 on: September 15, 2014, 01:59:25 PM »
I can send you my modified map for my 09 V7c - the starting fuel map is slightly increased, the lamba is switched off and nothing else is changed.

My bike runs very well now even during the cold start timed period.



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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #251 on: September 15, 2014, 03:06:06 PM »
I can send you my modified map for my 09 V7c - the starting fuel map is slightly increased, the lamba is switched off and nothing else is changed.

My bike runs very well now even during the cold start timed period.




I'll install it tomorrow and report back. Thanks!
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #252 on: September 16, 2014, 11:36:44 AM »
I'll install it tomorrow and report back. Thanks!
Ken

The map worked like a charm! No hesitation during cold startup at all.
Thanks again!
Ken
Now, why can't I create my own maps for this in Tunerpro? I can do it perfectly with the V11S 15M XDF and BIN map.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #253 on: September 17, 2014, 10:50:49 PM »
The Centauro ECU has to have the EPROM changed correct?  Guzzidiag  doesn't work for the Centy correct?
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« Reply #254 on: September 18, 2014, 12:35:03 AM »
Yeah. Centauro is a 16M right? Reader and Writer won't work.

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« Reply #255 on: September 26, 2014, 12:01:30 PM »
Is there a depository of maps around there somewhere that I'm missing?

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« Reply #256 on: September 26, 2014, 12:07:19 PM »
The Centauro ECU has to have the EPROM changed correct?  Guzzidiag  doesn't work for the Centy correct?

Yes, although when you pull the eprom, the guzzidiag people have some software I believe that will help you tweek it if you use an eprom reader/writer to access it.

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« Reply #257 on: September 26, 2014, 01:29:16 PM »
for tunerpro we have the xdf for 16m ready to download, you only need an eprom burner and a handful of eproms. I have the maps from the guzzi stock eproms here. But not ready to go tuned.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #258 on: September 28, 2014, 02:36:32 PM »
I continue to have problems with my MacBook.

GD v43 works fine now, but I had to download it several times - I was getting different sized downloads and ended up using the largest file.  Worked fine to reset the TPS on my 2008 12S and my 2014 Stelvio.

Now that I'm ready to take the next step of adjusting maps, lambdas, etc., I'm trying to download Reader and Writer.  Writer appears to work OK but I haven't written anything to the ECU because I can't get Reader to open.  From the GD site, I can only download V22 (not 23 as indicated) and as soon as Reader tries to open, it shuts down and won't open.  OS and Safari stay running but Reader just won't open.  I had the same issue with GD early on but kept trying more downloads until it finally worked.

I've tried to download Reader 20+ times and every instance crashes.  Anyone else having issues with OS or have any suggestions?

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #259 on: September 28, 2014, 04:39:44 PM »
For the mac, I see the download links to 0.22, I suppose that isn't updated yet. In the past people with mac having this sort of problems had a wrong program to extract the zip file I think.

difference betwen 22 and 23 is added 59m, only usefull for ducati. 
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #260 on: September 28, 2014, 05:34:50 PM »
I have mountain lion on my mac, and had to go into the security portion of it to enable downloads for untrusted sites. You should be able to go into your downloads folder and save it to your desktop. My mac screen flashes all kinds of crazy when I use guzzidiag and sometimes crashes, but I can get it to work with some patience.
Downside is that they don't have tunerpro for Mac yet. I got an old windows laptop from a buddy that I normally use.
Hope this helps.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #261 on: September 30, 2014, 07:52:29 PM »
For the mac, I see the download links to 0.22, I suppose that isn't updated yet. In the past people with mac having this sort of problems had a wrong program to extract the zip file I think.

difference betwen 22 and 23 is added 59m, only usefull for ducati. 

Tried again tonight, I see that Reader for Mac OS has been updated to V23.  It worked perfectly!  I now have the stock map saved to my MacBook.

Thanks so much Paul / Bernd, donation sent!

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #262 on: October 10, 2014, 06:38:52 PM »
Does the CO adjustment affect the Lambda? I turned off the lambda on my V7C, and MPG dropped to low 40's (used to be around 50MPG). I reinstalled the lambda, now I'm getting pinging again under hard acceleration, and I'm wondering if increasing CO a bit will take care of that, or if it will auto correct back to what it was originally. FWIW, the CO setting is at 21 on my 2009 V7C.
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« Reply #263 on: October 10, 2014, 07:55:00 PM »
Ken, CO trim is not active when lambda is 'on'.

Did you reset the learned parameters when you flashed the non-lambda map? Or maybe pulled the main fuses? If yes, then the now that lambda is active again, the ECU will re-trim and you should get back to where you were.

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« Reply #264 on: October 10, 2014, 09:43:09 PM »
Thanks for the info! No, I didn't reset the learned parameters then. I think I'll remove the lambda again and do that. If MPG drops, I'll probably reduce the CO and go from there.
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« Reply #265 on: October 10, 2014, 10:55:17 PM »
When you turn lambda off and reset the learned parameters, set the CO trim at zero to begin. At 21, it'll be too rich, hence the increased fuel use.

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« Reply #266 on: October 11, 2014, 12:49:53 PM »
Thanks! Runs like a champ now.
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GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #267 on: October 11, 2014, 02:24:54 PM »
I hope I can get some advice. I have a 2000 Jackal, and I am trying to connect GuzziDiag to check my TPS and CO trim. I purchased the cable combo from Lonetec linked to on the first page, and downloaded the GuzziDiag software and the only drivers Lonetec offered, which were for Windows. I originally tried connecting to my MacBook Pro, I didn't install drivers, as I didn't see any, and the program always said it couldn't connect. I had an old laptop with Windows for testing, so I dug that out, installed the cable drivers, connected everything in the exact steps on the first page, and it still says the Ignition is off.

I must be doing something wrong, but I'm getting a bit frustrated. I connected the two cables together, then connected to the three pin plug, then the red clip to the battery, at this point the red light on the cable came on. Then I plugged into the usb on the laptop. I then opened GuzziDiag, went to file, then connect. I turned on the ignition and watched the timer run out. Here are some photos.





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« Reply #268 on: October 11, 2014, 02:36:41 PM »
Make sure it's in neutral or that the side stand is up.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #269 on: October 11, 2014, 02:39:34 PM »
Use the cable drivers from Guzzidiag, and not the drivers that came with the cable. http://www.von-der-salierburg.de/download/GuzziDiag/
Also, under the File menu, you'll need to click on Preferences and select the proper Language, COM port and Motorcycle. For the first time selecting COM port, have everything connected, and you may have to select the highest # com port. IIRC, it's COM 6 on my PC, and Com 4 on my mac.
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