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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #930 on: April 22, 2016, 05:55:34 PM »
I don't believe it does.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #931 on: April 24, 2016, 10:33:20 AM »
Appreciate the explanation.

So does the CO value on the eeprom affect the loaded stock map on the bike.

No I think when lambda is active, it doesn't look at the co value. It uses the lambda and the saved autolearning value.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #932 on: April 27, 2016, 06:47:08 PM »
New member  here and first time guzzi owner. I bought my 2010 griso last year  brand new, a deal to good to pass.
I had a lot a fun with it past season, has 6000 km now and no issues.
I  started  to read on this forum about a month ago and registered today. I learned  mine is one of the models affected by the flat tappet issue, plus mine its an A5.
I came across of this post and  all those symptoms that I originally thought was owning a character bike its easily fixed with beetle's map.
So now I have the  Guzzidiag, writer and  reader (5AM ECU version hope is the right one)  loaded in my laptop, cables from Lonelec in the way.
All I'm missing is the right map, so my question is who do i buy it from and how do i pay it.
thx

Peter

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #933 on: April 27, 2016, 06:51:49 PM »
Hi Pete, you need to check out Grisoghetto.com there's a link to beetles purchase page in there. Not to mention all of the Griso/stelvio etc. specific talk in there. I'd post the link to beetles site but I really think you need to check out the ghetto for yourself.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #933 on: April 27, 2016, 06:51:49 PM »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #934 on: April 27, 2016, 07:05:09 PM »
Hi Pete, you need to check out Grisoghetto.com there's a link to beetles purchase page in there. Not to mention all of the Griso/stelvio etc. specific talk in there. I'd post the link to beetles site but I really think you need to check out the ghetto for yourself.

Thanks, I'll do that

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #935 on: April 28, 2016, 11:10:08 AM »
I have both a Jackal & a Griso. 

Can I install both programs & readers on the same lap top without a conflict?

If I can how will they be indentifyed so I know which one to use?

Thanks so much.

PS: I have been scared of this new fangled electronics stuff for too long!
« Last Edit: April 28, 2016, 11:11:35 AM by Red Dog »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #936 on: April 28, 2016, 11:19:26 AM »
I have both a Jackal & a Griso. 

Can I install both programs & readers on the same lap top without a conflict?

If I can how will they be indentifyed so I know which one to use?

Thanks so much.

PS: I have been scared of this new fangled electronics stuff for too long!

The same GuzziDiag program will work with the Griso 5AM and the Jackal 15M. Just go to preferences and select the vehicle.
The rom reader/writers are different, but you can put it all on one PC.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #937 on: April 28, 2016, 12:49:32 PM »
The guzzidiag programs don't have any installation and write nothing in registry. Only a place that you have write rights to is needed so it can write its logfile.

The reader writer are in ecu specific versions, named after the ecu.

the IAW15xReader and IAW15xWriter are you could guess it: for the 15Rc and 15m > Jackal

the IAW5xReader and IAW5xWriter are for the 5am and 59m so thats your griso.

 Guzzidiag does them all for diagnostics.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #938 on: April 28, 2016, 01:31:16 PM »
Thank You OMG & Paul.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #939 on: April 28, 2016, 04:40:47 PM »

PS: I have been scared of this new fangled electronics stuff for too long!

And now you have chosen to conquer that fear! Excellent.

Hello WG people! Take a leaf out of Fido's book! It's NOT rocket science and there are lots of really smart people here who will bust their arses to help you, for (Suspender twang!) FREE! :evil:

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #940 on: April 28, 2016, 04:59:24 PM »
And now you have chosen to conquer that fear! Excellent.

Hello WG people! Take a leaf out of Fido's book! It's NOT rocket science and there are lots of really smart people here who will bust their arses to help you, for (Suspender twang!) FREE! :evil:

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #941 on: April 29, 2016, 11:32:09 AM »
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And now you have chosen to conquer that fear! Excellent.

Hello WG people! Take a leaf out of Fido's book! It's NOT rocket science and there are lots of really smart people here who will bust their arses to help you, for (Suspender twang!) FREE! :evil:

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #942 on: April 29, 2016, 01:27:15 PM »
And now you have chosen to conquer that fear! Excellent.

Hello WG people! Take a leaf out of Fido's book! It's NOT rocket science and there are lots of really smart people here who will bust their arses to help you, for (Suspender twang!) FREE! :evil:

Pete

WOOF! HEY PETE!  I used to be jump in with both feet & let 'er go to hell then we'll sort that mess out & learn something on the way.

But in the last few years I've had a number of strokes & found myself having to take stuff back apart not once but sometimes three times.
It's a bummer sitting there looking at a part in your hand & not sure.......

Kinda lost my confidence for awhile.  Now I take pics, lots of pics when ever I do something.

I'll either learn it or I won't but I'll go down fighting like I always have.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #943 on: April 29, 2016, 02:30:48 PM »
Could someone  please tell me where can I get beetles  map bin file for a 2010 stock griso.
 I was told here to try grisoghetto, i regisered 2 days ago but its taking theme forever to activate it.
Thanks
« Last Edit: April 29, 2016, 02:52:10 PM by petes78cafe »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #944 on: April 29, 2016, 03:47:45 PM »
Could someone  please tell me where can I get beetles  map bin file for a 2010 stock griso.
 I was told here to try grisoghetto, i regisered 2 days ago but its taking theme forever to activate it.
Thanks
try http://griso.org/
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #945 on: April 29, 2016, 04:38:07 PM »
Pay heed to the instructions Mark gives as well. Many people seem to believe that installing a new map is a sort of 'Magic Bullet' that will cure all woes. It won't. If the machine is not serviced and tuned correctly it will still under-perform and may damage itself. The tune has to be correct or you're on a hiding to nothing.

I'd also add that when flat tappet damage gets critical it too will impact performance. Tell tale signs can be a low idle, an inability to hold idle when cold, stalling unless the throttle is applied when cold and occasional spit-backs through the throttle bodies when idling. Given all the flat tappet engines are going to fail I would suggest getting them inspected and rollerising ASAP.

Pete

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #946 on: April 29, 2016, 05:03:43 PM »
Pay heed to the instructions Mark gives as well. Many people seem to believe that installing a new map is a sort of 'Magic Bullet' that will cure all woes. It won't. If the machine is not serviced and tuned correctly it will still under-perform and may damage itself. The tune has to be correct or you're on a hiding to nothing.

I'd also add that when flat tappet damage gets critical it too will impact performance. Tell tale signs can be a low idle, an inability to hold idle when cold, stalling unless the throttle is applied when cold and occasional spit-backs through the throttle bodies when idling. Given all the flat tappet engines are going to fail I would suggest getting them inspected and rollerising ASAP.

Pete

I bought the bike last year, new with 0 km, although its a 2010 it never left the dealer, was bought by somebody but never picked up.
I had the first service at 1000km and an oil change right at the end of the last season at 6000km all done by the dealer.
Bike works great.
Now, do u think I have a chance of have at least the parts for rollerising covered by MG, or I'm wasting my time trying.
I should mention that being sold previously bike didn't  come with any warranty.
 Peter

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #948 on: April 29, 2016, 05:33:21 PM »
well if you have the bills, and the dealer didn't register it for warranty before he sold it to you you have a chance. PM me you complete vin, I can lookup

But it has to be broken first, before you get a thing.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #949 on: April 29, 2016, 05:34:31 PM »
There has to be visible damage before a claim is accepted and the machine must have a full service history.

If you have a FSH though and when inspected there is damage a claim can be put in and as long as all the i's are dotted and t's crossed you should be able to get a kit. You will have to pay for installation though.

Unfortunately when visible damage becomes apparent varies depending on a number of circumstances but generally by 10,000 km it will be well advanced.

Pete

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #950 on: April 29, 2016, 05:59:21 PM »
Thanks for the input,
I will probably  be paying for  it myself and have it done or do it  myself next winter.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #951 on: May 03, 2016, 06:48:08 PM »
I received the cables from lonelec today and i connect with guzzidiag but the reader wont read it.
When i push save the box pops up  to browse to where i want to save it but there isnt anything under file just blank, under file type does say bin.
Does the ignition has to be on while reading it? Ive tried both ways.
Also I  don't get one of thoes fancy icons in the dash as beetle described onfirst page.
I ran the device test with success  and also checked ports under device manager.
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #952 on: May 03, 2016, 07:14:22 PM »
You need to type the name you want to save the file under. Then, when you click 'save', the reader will tell you to switch on your key and press Ok. The it saves the map from the ECU, using the name you previously entered.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2016, 07:15:24 PM by beetle »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #953 on: May 03, 2016, 07:22:31 PM »
  :grin:
Thanks,missed that part.
How about the icon missing from the dash?
Normal?

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #954 on: May 03, 2016, 07:35:06 PM »

Are you waiting and turning on the key, when GuzziDiag instruct you to?
Not sure what icons you mean. But you have to tell GuzziDiag what text you want displayed (voltage, or TPS, or temperature, or.....). And of course you need to tell it what comm port and when ECU model.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #955 on: May 03, 2016, 07:54:41 PM »





When you are connected to the ECU with one of the programs, you will get a nice display on your instruments.








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This doesnt appear on dash.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #956 on: May 03, 2016, 08:05:22 PM »
That won't appear unless the ECU and software are communicating. IIRC, only when loading or saving a map

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #957 on: May 03, 2016, 08:07:24 PM »
A few times I got invalid name but finally got it.
And now I got the icon too on dash.
Thanks
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #958 on: May 04, 2016, 02:06:20 AM »
The actual thing the dash tells you, is it can't communicate with the ecu over the can buss. 
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #959 on: May 11, 2016, 02:17:21 AM »
Hi guys my cable just arrived but wont connect to program  shows not connected,I think I have the wright drivers for it, anyone can help?

Tony

 

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