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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1200 on: November 07, 2016, 08:24:59 PM »
I'd better buy a V11 then when one comes up cheap eh? Perhaps when I turn over the 'Racer'.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1201 on: November 08, 2016, 12:20:54 PM »
Not to date. I would love to get my hands on a Scura to remap it.   :evil:

The cables will work. You'll need the 15x versions of the reader & writer. I'm happy to help in any way I can.

Very good...thanks Beetle, I'll hook it up and see what kind of values I get.  From what I understand there is a V11 Scura R somewhere down under I think...a rare bird indeed.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1202 on: November 10, 2016, 06:33:53 PM »
Hello.

Firstly let me thank you for lots of great information about Guzzi Diag. It's taken me weeks to read it all.

Now my question. After downloading the software and buying the cables from the correct place am I wasting my time ?
I have a 2007 California EV. My brother has just told me that I can't replace the map on this ecu. Surely not...

I did notice that nobody was mentioning the California in this thread. If I can't use Guzzi Diag what are my options?
My problem is spluttering at 2000 to 3000 revs. A range I used to like when I had a T3.
If it's not the mapping then what else could it be ?

I would appreciate any information. Thanks again.

Doublethree.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1203 on: November 10, 2016, 08:37:02 PM »
Doubletree,

Which ecu and engine do you have ? I have an 07 Cal Vin with the dual plug heads and a 15rc ecu. You may have the one plug heads and a 15m ecu. I have maps for each.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1203 on: November 10, 2016, 08:37:02 PM »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1204 on: November 11, 2016, 01:59:51 AM »
Your brother is wrong.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1205 on: November 11, 2016, 03:18:37 AM »
Quick question,
My Stelvio is going in for a full service and a bit of warranty work (front forks and rear light)
It's the last time the dealer will see it, I'm only letting them due to the warranty.
Is there any need (or point) to putting the original map back in. Can they tell what's in is not a Guzzi map and will it bother them or affect the warranty?
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1206 on: November 11, 2016, 04:09:29 AM »
They can't tell.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1207 on: November 11, 2016, 07:13:19 AM »
They can't tell.

 Well as long as map ID is the same. And if they do forensics, the other things that were noted in the logfile of the original map download. But most don't have a clue.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1208 on: November 11, 2016, 08:23:05 AM »
Hello again and thanks for your replies.

antmanbee - I have the one plug head and I believe it's the 15m ecu. A map would be appreciated, thank you. I could experiment with it before the warm weather returns.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1209 on: November 11, 2016, 09:18:41 AM »
Doublethree, check your PM's

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1210 on: November 11, 2016, 11:55:28 AM »
Thanks antmanbee - email sent.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1211 on: November 11, 2016, 07:03:50 PM »
Hi antmanbee, I have a 2003 EV with the hydro engine. Do you have maps for that?
I'm also suffering the spluttering and ill running at 2-3000 rpm with light throttle

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1212 on: November 11, 2016, 08:33:57 PM »
Revhead, check your PM's

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1213 on: December 25, 2016, 06:21:50 AM »
Am I correct in assuming that since there's no selection in the Model menu for the 8v Norge that using either the Griso 8v or the Stelvio 8V will work when resetting the TPS?

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1214 on: December 25, 2016, 06:28:45 AM »
Yup, any of the W5AM bikes will work I believe but stick with an 8V just to be sure. I believe that the TPS reset function is not model specific but I'm willing to be shouted at if I'm wrong.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1215 on: December 26, 2016, 07:02:19 AM »
Thanks for the feedback, Pete.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1216 on: December 27, 2016, 07:23:55 AM »
OMG! What a dramatic difference in performance with the Beetle Norge 8v map.  I know I'm probably preaching to the choir, but what a difference.  Much smoother, no hesitation or surging between 3k -3.5k rpm and just a linear increase in power through the rev range.  Best bang for the buck you could ask for.    Thanks Beetle.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1218 on: December 27, 2016, 04:28:03 PM »
After these recent posts, I went to the site and see a Norge 8V (for stock exhaust) now listed.  I've got a GPR Albus on my Norge with both dB busters in place (retained the compensator, too).  The sound is just right for me as it is deep/mellow in tone, reasonably quiet, doesn't drone at cruising speeds but has a nice bark when driven aggressively.  I believe it has gotten a bit louder as it burns off some packing but I'm not actually sure of that.  My guess is that it isn't greatly different than stock for flow.  I'm a long way off from riding season in Wisconsin but have 5300 miles on the bike and will be due for some service early on in the season and would like to have this thought through a bit before that.

I'm currently running a lambda off, no-pop map from Mark.  This made the power more linear feeling and somewhat reduced the burbling (not much though)  Any thoughts for me?  Also, is there a better place to discuss these things than this thread?  I couldn't find any likely spots.







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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1219 on: January 28, 2017, 01:37:52 AM »
Hi all,

My thanks again to Beetle for this fabulous tutorial and his assistance with my Breva 1200 Map.
She runs a lot smoother through the "middle" revs now.
Cheers

Don



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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1220 on: January 28, 2017, 10:49:58 PM »
They can't tell.

Don't want to argue with the master, but having just done this, the computer logs the date the map was written to the ECU, so they knew I had re-flashed the ECU. Even Guzzi Diag shows you the date the map was loaded to the ECU.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1221 on: January 28, 2017, 11:17:15 PM »
Yes, but it still identifies as the stock map. They can't tell what the map is unless they pull it and open it in a map editor. Even then, they'd have to know what they're looking at. Even if you load the factory map, it still logs the load date. So what? Just look blank and shrug.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1222 on: January 28, 2017, 11:36:25 PM »
Yes, but it still identifies as the stock map. They can't tell what the map is unless they pull it and open it in a map editor. Even then, they'd have to know what they're looking at. Even if you load the factory map, it still logs the load date. So what? Just look blank and shrug.

Yes, you are right. They noticed it right away and said that when they had to take a screen shot of my map and ecu setting and sent to Piaggio,  Piaggio had an issue with it because it showed that the map was reflashed with a non official program, etc. I asked them if it came to that to reflash it with their 'official' machine and call it good.... My only point was it is transparent to the dealer if you install a new map then put the stock map back in when you go in for service.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1223 on: January 28, 2017, 11:47:21 PM »
If you have to deal with such weasly assclowns, (Why does it matter to them?) just buy another ECU, take the original off and use the 2nd handy. Then if something up towards happens just stick the original back in. Any mechanic worth his salt will be able to recognise the cause of a catastrophic engine failure and if they are trying to knock you back on warranty for something like a busted dashboard because your bike has a different map in it? Well, they're assclowns. Find a shop not run by them!

Pete

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1224 on: January 28, 2017, 11:59:44 PM »
Ah! They're looking at the loader/tester. Even loading the stock map with GuzziDiag will show the wrong loader. Why did they take a screenshot and send it to Piaggio?


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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1225 on: January 29, 2017, 12:16:15 AM »
Ah! They're looking at the loader/tester. Even loading the stock map with GuzziDiag will show the wrong loader. Why did they take a screenshot and send it to Piaggio?

The unsolvable drop off at 6K problem.... Will bring it back next week and leave it there until it is solved (fingers crossed)
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1226 on: January 29, 2017, 12:22:46 AM »
Did they check the cam timing? I recall Pete had an 8V that was one tooth out on the cam chain (Stelvio?) and had a similar effect. No power after 6500 or somesuch.

You there Pete?

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1227 on: January 29, 2017, 12:41:51 AM »
Did they check the cam timing? I recall Pete had an 8V that was one tooth out on the cam chain (Stelvio?) and had a similar effect. No power after 6500 or somesuch.

You there Pete?

I think that will be on the agenda.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1228 on: January 29, 2017, 12:42:04 AM »
Yup, one tooth off on one pot, ran into a brick wall at 6.5K. Check the cam timing, it's a fifteen minute job, bit more on a Norge.

Pete
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1229 on: February 02, 2017, 04:53:51 PM »
Finally finished reading. Just ordered my cables. Can you shoot me a picture of your OBD connector on your V7II? I wanted to ensure I use the correct connector.

On V7 II I have three connectors under the seat. One is for OBD, what are other two? One is larger and one smaller...
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