850T Renovation

[Hahnda]

Nice looking but just not quite the look I am going for. I really wanted the swan necks.

Since its not really a resto or an exact replica I think I may just switch things up a bit. Clip with a LeMans style fairing.

Did you use a V7 Sport rear fender with that seat? I have the same seat but as you know the V7 fenders are hard to find, even the re-pops are all out as far as I know.

[NCAmother]

This was an 850T that I built and sold a couple years ago.

I ran super bike bars from Harper's on it.

that's a looker!

[NCAmother]

Hahnda, if you want swan necks, get swan necks.  It's your bike so build it how you want.  With that said, is there a way to modify the gauge mounting plate location holes with some welding and time?   PS-thanks for the update,this is a great learning post for me, please continue to update, it's greatly appreciated!

[Goosecoop]

Here's another place that does vapor blasting or vapor honing as it is sometimes called:

SPEC Abrasives and Finishing, Inc
543 West Southern Avenue
Muskegon, MI 49441

Phone: 231 722 1926

I've had 3 drive trains done using this process and it is durable, beautiful, and cheaper than dry blasting. Clean up is minimal and easy. Absolutely recommend this process for all aluminum bits.

I. too, am building a T3 for a friend. It is a cafe racer design that emulates the old Gulf Oil CanAm racers of the 70's.

[JoeW]

Nice looking but just not quite the look I am going for. I really wanted the swan necks.

Since its not really a resto or an exact replica I think I may just switch things up a bit. Clip with a LeMans style fairing.

Did you use a V7 Sport rear fender with that seat? I have the same seat but as you know the V7 fenders are hard to find, even the re-pops are all out as far as I know.

I understand, what about LeMans clip ons? Yes, that's a 750s seat and Sport rear fender, they are hard to find. I had a hard time finding that one 3 years ago.

[Hahnda]

I actually have the swan neck bars on the bike. This is how I found the interference problem. I need to mock a couple things up to see what I like.
One thing I do know is that it will have the shark gill mufflers. Already have those as well.

There is no way to cleanly modify the dash plate, at least in my opinion.

Not my bike below but it kind of shows the issue.



Yes I was thinking LeMans clips-ons as well. Those would have been used on the 750S3. So Maybe a mash up of 850T, 750S, 750S3 and LeMans is what it will work out to be.

Not sure what I am going to do on that rear fender to get it to work with the seat. For those that don't know the seat works just like the V7 Sport seat and needs the hinged rear fender.

[NCAmother]

If you are using the 850T top triple, I tried a few different bars, clubmans looked really nice, but I have a bad back, so I'm going with some renthal low rise MX bars, to me they look good.

[Hahnda]

Not a big fan of clubmans, not enough adjustment unless you get the Jota style clubmans. Also I am kind of past the possibility of using regular style bars as I have already removed the mounts from the triple tree.

[NCAmother]

Not a big fan of clubmans, not enough adjustment unless you get the Jota style clubmans. Also I am kind of past the possibility of using regular style bars as I have already removed the mounts from the triple tree.

helibars? naw.  Actually I think you should stick with the swan necks if that's your ideal bar, part of your vision.

[Hahnda]

Not Helibars. Jota bars.



Good in concept but a bit angular.

[Hahnda]

[NCAmother]

we really need to figure out the swan neck solution if you are set on those bars. Don't compromise.  I've compromised in the past by buying auto trans cars, but they always put me to sleep and made me a  lazy driver.  I'm a manual transmission guy, it makes me feel like "i'm in the game" when I drive crazy traffic.  With that said, you can be happy with a substitute, but if you have the bike set up of your dreams, then that's another level

[guzzista]

As an option you could use the Verlicchi  typeSwan necks .They were  made for Motospezial ,  later taken over by Guzziladen. Stein Dinse carries them currently . They allow rotation of the brackets and bars. in case where adjustments are needed rotating the brackets might do the trick. They seem stronger than the currently available swan neck replicas, only niggling issue is that , when using the cast alum. V7 Sport Headlight ears they dont follow the curved contour. Comfort wise, their adjustability seems to make them more comfortable that the Swans (YMMV)

[Hahnda]

I had not ran across those bars from Verlicchi. Will look onto those. They might solve a couple of issue.

On the other hand I might be able to make the swan necks I have work, maybe. Still have to check steering lock / bar-to-tank clearance. They might be a little further in and maybe a bit lower than that what I wanted. If I push the bars all the way down to the lower tree it gains me just enough clearance. They didn't feel to bad when on the bike but they just look like they are angled in to far.



But when compared to a Lemans the angle is pretty close.



More testing and thinking needed...

[John A]

That is good porn! Quality workmanship. Got me all excited!

[Hahnda]

So after getting a throttle, switch, and brake master cylinder on the handlebars you can't even tell that they are swan necks. 

I also want to be open to the option of using a LeMans style fairing on it and once I do that you won't even know what is on there for bars.

I think I am just going to opt for a set of adjustable clip-on bars. Better range of adjustment and easy to mount the headlight. Going to mock those up next and see how things look.

[Hahnda]

I tried a set of Tarozzi clip-ons. They were ok but I not what I was looking for. I was looking at the clamps and had the idea to insert swan neck looking bars in place of the straight tubes. Obviously had to move the clamps into a slightly different rotation but I like the results. The bars are actually high rise chopper bars cut off just before the lower bend. Without any fairing they might look a little odd because they are not directly in front of the fork tube like the original swan necks were meant to be. But then again if the tubes were cut off to be flush with the clamps they might just look fine. I do plan to cut these off a bit but left them until I decide on a bar height. These actually ended up looking a bit like the Verlicchi bars but have more adjustment. Works fine with the Tomaselli fork ears.

This actually put the bars about right where I wanted them. I want a certain look but also don't want the bars to be so low that I have all my weight on them. Since I am keeping the stock footpeg location I wanted the bars to be a bit higher to keep things comfortable.

[guzzista]

Great job mixing up the Tarozzi bars and the sawed off chopper bars! Got same Tarozzi  bars on my LM1 and at first I didnt think I would like them , but after some adjustments, they may be possibly the most comfortable clip ons ever for me ( not withstanding the fact that clip ons and comfortable may be an oxymoron) . Glad you getting it comfy for you , great build