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And as a chineasuim offering the Tao Motors 250. $1500 + $279 shipping and you can get a decent back road exploration dual sport bike that is able to be registered and plated. Buddy of mine has been researching them and they get good reviews. He’s picking one up for a snow bike since his Lifan is about corroded into a monolithic entity. This is the guy who had a Guzzi dealership has over 1.5 million miles on motorcycles and just passed 80,000 miles for 2021. I trust he researched them enough to be confident. We test ride one last week and for the money you’d be hard pressed to find better.
The DR is a big dirt bike. The KLR is an inexpensive ADV bike.
I'm not sure I follow this. What make's the KLR the Adv bike vs the DR? Is it the 99 pounds more weight? Is it the worse road/off-road manners. Is it the 2 less HP? Is it the shim and bucket valve adjustments? Is it the 2 less inches of ground clearance but the same seat height?
Its the old quandry with dual sports. Get a light small bike for off road or a heavier faster bike for the pavement. The OP says he plans to ride 45-55 mph to get off the pavement. That might seem OK for a while but pretty much limits you to locations close to home or having to trailer your bike much further. I can't see riding the Enfield cross country at 55 mph.
KLR weighs 50 lbs more, makes the SAME HP and costs more than the DR. KLR has fragile body work and radiator, chain driven counterbalancer. DR has only a small oil cooler to worry about and gear driven counterbalancer. With the change to 1 tooth bigger front sprocket, I toured the US on a DR650 cruising at 80 mph just fine.
I had a ride on a Himalayan in UK, and found it a nice, inoffensive and tough little piece of kit. Simple and devoid of gimmickry.We did a day in the Cotswalds with me on my Norge, Paul on his Bellagio and Serena on her Himmy. She did not hold us up at all in reality.It feels like it has a heavy flywheel and I like it.
So, to be an ADV bike it must have frame mounted fairing and windscreen? If as bike does not have these it cannot be considered an ADV bike??
None of the above????
What does 80 mph have to do with the conversation. We aren't talking about road touring bikes here. Everything else you say confirms what I said. The DR is a large dirt bike, and the KLR is an inexpensive Adventure bike. The DR will go places the KLR wont, but the KLR will be more comfortable and has a longer range from the factory.
I'm not the one who posted "Frame mounted fairing with windshield. Better weather protection. Anything else you would like to know?"
Like a well tuned forklift ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ybMIgmtsPc
Here is a picture of my Stornello:And interesting ... I believe zero people have said "use the Stornello! Get it muddy! Maybe drop it and not worry about it." I'm 99% on the Himalayan decision.
If you could weld a 3rd contact point to the tip over bars they might protect that expensive tank in a slide. To me the Stornello just has the look of a scrambler, like the early air cooled triumphs. Sure, in the hands of an expert any bike can be ridden wherever. As long as you have no need for prolonged 70 mph riding you should enjoy the Himalayan. I'm heavily tempted to buy another one.