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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: cliffrod on April 28, 2022, 12:24:08 PM
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I'm not always technically fluent enough to post a link with ancient equipment but saw a CX100 on FBMP last night in Decatur GA for $2800. Ad said it needs TLC.
If this doesn't work, maybe someone else can link, connect, maybe GuzziSteve knows the bike, ??
Edit https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/252633433684555/
(https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/252633433684555/)
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I heard about it today, the guy knows TigerBill. Supposed to have a cam & Augo gearset in it. All I know.
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Pretty rare machine, running or not.
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I messaged him. He replied with details that weren't much more than what's in the FB ad, but did say it has a cam, gear set, bub exhaust, fairly nice original paint. Engine is not stuck. He said he has owned it for about 25 yrs & has clear title in his name. Price is firm right now.
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Well, I'm headed to ATL to pick it up tomorrow afternoon.
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Well, I'm headed to ATL to pick it up tomorrow afternoon.
Congrats! Looks like a good deal and sure it will be a fun/decent bike in the end.
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Congrats! Looks like a good deal and sure it will be a fun/decent bike in the end.
Thanks. I'm pretty stoked. It's going to replace my very nice but nothing special HD Evo FLHTC Bagger that I like but don't need.
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Congrats, not many CX100 imported, even fewer white ones.
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Not clear on the paint being original now, at least in comparison to a white one that TOMB had & posted a few yrs ago which he regretted selling. Seller say he has the lower fairing.
My V7 Sport will never be restored. My Corsa Record will obviously never be original. No plans to restore this bike either. It should be a great addition to the group. I sold some very special bikes at the beginning of my studio that I can't justify$$ replacing. They were special because they were cheap as well as cool to me.
I had no idea these were such a low production bike. I just knew how some here hold them in greater-than high esteem as a real world bike to enjoy. I have no need for ultra performance. Nothing to prove, just want to enjoy what I can while I can.
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Can’t wait to see pictures and hear details. Great score Clifford.
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Congratulations Clint!
That looks to be one excellent purchase and it looks pretty damn good as is.
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Heck ya! Congrats!
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:thumb: I love mine!
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What is the stock bar for the CX? SP handlebars, LM clip ons or something else entirely? Congrats Clint!
Scott
Athens, GA
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What is the stock bar for the CX? SP handlebars, LM clip ons or something else entirely? Congrats Clint!
Scott
Athens, GA
Since the chassis is pure 850 Le Mans II, clip-ons.
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I had no idea these were such a low production bike.
Congrats, very well bought :thumb: It's got a lot of nice rare pieces added to it, that seat might be one of the older ones made with higher quality foam, those Bubs are unobtanium.
From everything I've read only a total of 353 made and I believe all were shipped to the US market. I can't tell from the from the photos, but it looks like it might have the later round body carbs? If so, some of them came with Nikasil sp? cylinders.
Re someone's question about the bars, they came with 35 mm clip ons, but the top triple clamp is cast and threaded so adding more upright bars is easily doable.
What I find endearing about that model is that it's like Italian exotica but without the headaches, small valves, lower compression, easy to live with, jmho.
Safe travels picking it up, hope the deal and the trip home goes smoothly.
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Great move Clint! I've missed out on a couple of cx's and regret not ponying up and ending up with one. They are stunning in the flesh and rare as hen teeth. Keep us posted and nice find :thumb:
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Congrats, very well bought :thumb: It's got a lot of nice rare pieces added to it, that seat might be one of the older ones made with higher quality foam, those Bubs are unobtanium.
From everything I've read only a total of 353 made and I believe all were shipped to the US market. I can't tell from the from the photos, but it looks like it might have the later round body carbs? If so, some of them came with Nikasil sp? cylinders.
Re someone's question about the bars, they came with 35 mm clip ons, but the top triple clamp is cast and threaded so adding more upright bars is easily doable.
What I find endearing about that model is that it's like Italian exotica but without the headaches, small valves, lower compression, easy to live with, jmho.
Safe travels picking it up, hope the deal and the trip home goes smoothly.
The first ones built in 79 were iron bores, the next year they made a very small final batch (75 or so)with nicasil.
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Well, it's on the trailer here at home. Nothing like a trip into Atlanta on the interstate/parking lot @5PM on a Friday to understand how fortunate I am to never have to commute in traffic to get to work or home.
No worries about original paint. I am glad to share a generous peel of red or white with anyone who needs one.... Maybe I'll unearth a trace of original red, white or blue somewhere. He bought the bike already painted like this so had no idea what original color it was.
iirc, vin on neck tag is 111414. Approx 49K miles showing on odometer. Overall it's not pretty but is in much much better shape than my well-used V7 Sport was when it came home. Owner was not as mechanically inclined as some and it wasn't clear that he put many miles on the bike. Sounds like it got little to no use after their son was born in 2000. He got it in 97 and after a little riding "the crank locked up", so he had the engine completely rebuilt for $3500+. Rubber mounted round body 30 Dellorto pumpers with flat tops. No specifics on camshaft, other than he thought it was a European made equivalent to a Raceco. Hite something. New alloy timing gear set. Flywheel might be lightened. With a good inspection, cleaning & prep, it may run fine as is. He said he didn't do the universal joint and made a point of telling me that. Rear shocks look like oem Eldo/Ambo shocks with the half-egg bumps on the lower alloy ring milled from round profile to flat. ??
Brakes need everything. Tank looks good on outside and is gorgeous inside. Gauges, switchgear and lighting seems to be all present and serviceable. Seat is really nice and in great shape. Very comfortable seating position with the raised clip ons but I'm confused by a Guzzi that has the foot controls on wrong sides..... None of the plastic fenders, fairings or side covers appear to be cracked or crash damaged at a glance, just peeling paint everywhere making them look like crap. Wheels and forks look pretty good. Lower fairings apparently don't fit with these swept back head pipes but frame mounts and extended dipstick tube are still in place. I didn't notice serious road rash on any pipes or the rest of the bike, but the exhaust flanges with plain bolts screwed into heads made me cringe a little. I did notice the bolt-on rubber pads that attach to the foot rest mounts are both missing.
Some pics in his garage and one after I got it onto the trailer-
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It's going on a back burner for now while I try to resolve other obligations and think about what to do with it. It should be a lot of fun. It's a good looking bike. While it's already on the trailer, I thought about taking it to the Meltdown tomorrow to park with my Corsa Record. I know it's not a show bike but know that I would probably more excited to see it as is than 95% of the $$$ built bikes at such shows. It will likely never be a pristine bike like some here build but I'm very lucky & happy to have another great bike here to enjoy, no matter what I do or don't do with it. It's so hard to find special bikes like this anymore that in normal fun-money range. Ive been wanting to turn my HD Evo bagger into something more special & unique. This fits the bill very well.
There is lots to learn and will be more to come, I'm sure. Thanks for all the enthusiasm and encouragement, guys.
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Looks like a fun project, and its a sweet looking bike! Seems like something that you can just pick away at things as you feel the need/want at any given time.
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I'm confused by a Guzzi that has the foot controls on wrong sides.....
Interesting and a bit confusing. I've known racers who modified bikes like that. Is it 1 up, 4 down as well?
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Good luck with the project. I’d look closely at the wiring harness on that bike and if it’s patched up here or there I’d just get a new harness. It’s something I should have done when I bought my CX as it regularly gave me grieve until it was changed. Relays would be good for those switches. The rubber surround for the headlight use to be easy to source but haven’t seen them lately, and if you’re good with welding I’d fabricate a better H-bracket for the front fairing as they are prone to break from traveling bad roads.
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The comment about foot controls being backwards was tongue-in-cheek. Many of my other bikes have been like this. I just knew when I got on my V7 Sport with right-shift &left-brake pedals, it was the way things should be. I'll be fine.
The wiring harness was a concern. This one is not cut up and I'll see how the connectors look. I put a new one on my V7 Sport because it had been trashed. Resolving wiring & connector issues sure helps limit the electrical problems on these Italian bikes. This bike does have green dyna coils and box. I noticed the headlight surround was missing, wasn't sure if it was hard or soft part(s). The windscreen also needs replacing.
There may be a little or a lot of welding-related fabrication stuff for this bike. Before I started my Corsa Record project, I had ideas to make custom bodywork for my V7 Sport simply because it was here. No cutting, just bolt-on stuff. But having a bike that is just put-together & ride makes most sense now and knowing what is prone to break is appreciated. First I'll need to make space to take this bike apart to clean & evaluate everything, and resolve mechanical needs to be resolved. I really need to address projects already underway and not dilute them with another one right now.
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The rubber for the light is soft, I went through a couple of those things from long trips where the fairing was moving too much. Also went through a few of those H-brackets for the fairing. Eventually I ditched everything for a round headlight and LM clock holders. My bike was in bad shape when purchased, but it was $2,500 bucks which seemed cheap 25 years ago.
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The Mayor/Chad and I were talking about the round headlight/fairing conversion earlier today at the show. He's looking forward to getting his CX from Scout63. The
I'm glad this bike isn't pristine. It will be easier to just relax and enjoy it, especially if the engine doesn't need a full rebuild to be a rider.
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(https://i.ibb.co/wBDyMRJ/090-B72-C6-5-E49-48-B7-8-A84-2-DA935-D72-C95.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wBDyMRJ)
(https://i.ibb.co/8mMwfK0/68-F3-FE38-56-F7-40-C3-8574-6-E5-FDEBB8384.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8mMwfK0)
I packed my original bodywork, lights, pegs, carbs and mufflers in a crate and ride mine incognito. Someday I may put it back on, or not. :cool:
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I was hoping someone here would snatch that thing up. Way to go Cliffrod!
Matteo,
Can you tell us what fairing you have on your bike and maybe post a picture or two from the front? Thanks
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Very nice. Good score. :thumb:
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I was hoping someone here would snatch that thing up. Way to go Cliffrod!
Matteo,
Can you tell us what fairing you have on your bike and maybe post a picture or two from the front? Thanks
Found it on eBay. Can't remember the manufacturer, found the screen and nose on Gustafsson's website. I'll see if I can find it again.
(https://i.ibb.co/JQ83V9B/A17-CFE2-A-D413-4-D09-B207-B67862001965.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JQ83V9B)
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Had a little time this afternoon to study things. I'm headed to dmv in the morning to do the title while bike is still on the trailer for VIN inspection..
I've found traces of likely original red paint in between mounting tab & pins inside the side covers. it was probably just another red bike, not white.
Comparing mileage on title in 1997 to mileage showing now in 2022, it's only showing a 3K mile difference. If he had it fully rebuilt and then not ridden much before being drained & parked as he claimed, that could be very good news.
Both f&r Brembo master cylinders are frozen solid. whether they're serviceable or will need to be replaced, we'll see. Whether calipers are any better, ?
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Some one posted a set of white bodywork for sale here way back that had black trim and hi vis orang on the front along the headlight. Looked pretty nice.
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Good buy! Jealous of the Bub exhaust... had a set on my first LM1, nothing sounds the same. I live just outside Atlanta, not that I need another LM at this point but would have bought myself if you hadn't.
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Comparing mileage on title in 1997 to mileage showing now in 2022, it's only showing a 3K mile difference. If he had it fully rebuilt and then not ridden much before being drained & parked as he claimed, that could be very good news.
You could hope so.
Or it could indicate a non-functional odometer for an unknown number of miles/years.
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You could hope so.
Or it could indicate a non-functional odometer for an unknown number of miles/years.
You mean like my old truck or other bikes? Btdt....
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The Mayor/Chad and I were talking about the round headlight/fairing conversion earlier today at the show. He's looking forward to getting his CX from Scout63. The
I'm glad this bike isn't pristine. It will be easier to just relax and enjoy it, especially if the engine doesn't need a full rebuild to be a rider.
If your going to take this route with the rounded head light, replace the whole harness with Greg Bender’s work. The original switches on mine were in bad shape so they were changed a long time ago. I ground off the tabs on the top clamp to make it look more intentional but it is a bit of work.
(https://i.ibb.co/CP3cR8v/E61330-D1-10-FE-4-F50-8-E93-966-A3564-BDBF.jpg)
My bike was in pretty bad shape when I got it with unknown miles, but I’ve always taken good care of the bike. One day as I was a block from home the engine started clanking and it turn out to be a bad crank shell which I found out later that they had a batch of bad shells for those bikes.
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If your going to take this route with the rounded head light, replace the whole harness with Greg Bender’s work. The original switches on mine were in bad shape so they were changed a long time ago. I ground off the tabs on the top clamp to make it look more intentional but it is a bit of work.
(https://i.ibb.co/CP3cR8v/E61330-D1-10-FE-4-F50-8-E93-966-A3564-BDBF.jpg)
My bike was in pretty bad shape when I got it with unknown miles, but I’ve always taken good care of the bike. One day as I was a block from home the engine started clanking and it turn out to be a bad crank shell which I found out later that they had a batch of bad shells for those bikes.
Really not sure what changes I may make. This seat is a make or break detail for me. Every time I think about a Le Mans I, I like them a lot. But when I see the original square hump seat in person, it's an aesthetic deal breaker every time. This seat is one of my favorites. Now the rectangular headlight is growing on me because reminds of my friend's F1B Ducati that I like so much. Going back to a original red and black paint scheme will probably happen first before I make more drastic changes.
I had some time today to begin prep to either start the engine or start the rebuild. Pulled the pristine inside & out tank and went to work. Original wiring harness looks great. The present rubber mounted PHF 30 pumper carbs were not run dry when parked but looked good and cleaned up easily after a quick strip. The present UFI Oil filter is dated May 14, 2001, which correlates to PO's account of bike being parked about 20 yrs ago. Inside of engine looks like new via bottom (oil pan) and top (valve covers), not 48K miles and nothing is hacked or damaged. Best of all was finding Gilardoni cylinders on the bike. Very cool.
Edit- Blackcat- I meant to ask about the position of your tubes in the modified top clamp. Seems like they're really low.. Why don't they pass all the way through to the top?
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I think the lemans II / CX100 is the prettiest of the LeMans series. Since this will never be an original paint bike...
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https://misukltd.com/for-sale/ols/products/moto-guzzi-lemans-mk2 (https://misukltd.com/for-sale/ols/products/moto-guzzi-lemans-mk2)
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Edit- Blackcat- I meant to ask about the position of your tubes in the modified top clamp. Seems like they're really low.. Why don't they pass all the way through to the top?
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Sorry, that was just a photo I had before re-installing the triple clamp after respraying with wrinkle paint.
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And this was before I made another modification to get the clocks lower by using LMI brackets for the clocks
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@clifford
Thanks for mentioning my CX100 Lemans.
Seat was replaced
Shocks replaced
Tank and Lowers were repainted
Tires were replaced
The rest is original as purchased.
Others here have indicated that this model bike was never sole in the U.S only Red was sold ,but a quick trip through the parts book list U.S. colors for Red, White and Blue
The bike was sold and ended up in Florida.
TOMB
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When I was much younger I would restore / repaint vintage Lionel trains, plastic diesel units in poor shape that some pre teen had desecrated with brush on model paint. I found that spray on oven cleaner did a very good job of stripping paint of plastic without damaging the plastic and sometimes, if I was very careful, I could get the 'repaint' off and save most if not all the underlying original paint. Might be worth trying on the side covers and fairing.
I have heard of people soaking painted plastic parts in brake fluid as well to strip paint, I just don't care for he smell or feel of brake fluid.
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I've recovered original paint that was underneath repaint in the past. That's not an option this time. Someone did a lot better job completely stripping the original paint than applying the new paint.
No matter, my relaxing afternoon of simple fixes didn't result in a running bike. One needle wouldn't seat,even with some extra effort. The list of needed parts has been started. Still, it's nice to have what seems to be a great bike in good condition to add to the garage.
Fwiw, this bike was titled in NC prior to being titled in GA in 1997.
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There hasn't been much time for bike stuff lately, but I've been slowly tinkering on this CX doing the basic long-parked-bike-go-through before money is spent. Stripped and cleaned carbs. The leaky needle & seat settled down in a couple of days. Removed bodywork to clean and inspect wiring. Remounted and rerouted the Dyna ignition. Did oil, etc. Got a battery about 2 wks ago but had no luck with getting bike to start or even turn over, so I started chasing power. Today I pulled starter to clean contacts in solenoid/bendix.
Reinstalled starter and tank. Spun engine a few times with no plugs to build oil pressure. Installed plugs. Cranked it a little more. Then connected coils & hit the button. It started instantly and ran well. No leaks. No undue smoke. Sounds great.
I still need to address the lighting, completely go through the brakes and get a list together of little bits of things to order.. Anxious to get a tag on it and ride when I can.
When I pulled the starter, I found it has a fully lightened flywheel that still looks shiny new. Very cool. It's an assumption, but I would suspect the clutch is likely not a lot older than the flywheel.
Pretty stoked right now.
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Cool, you need to post a video when you can.
The original Bosch starter on my CX always struggled cranking the engine even with a new battery, but works perfectly fine with a Valeo starter. The funny thing is that the Bosch starter will work in my 1000S and now resides in the LeMans I. Never could figure that one out.
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That sounds great Cliff, you'll like it when done.
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Cool, you need to post a video when you can.
The original Bosch starter on my CX always struggled cranking the engine even with a new battery, but works perfectly fine with a Valeo starter. The funny thing is that the Bosch starter will work in my 1000S and now resides in the LeMans I. Never could figure that one out.
That is odd. I upgraded my V7 Sport to a big bosch starter very soon after I put it on the road in the 90's, iirc I got a used one from John Hoffman at Cycle Specialties. Once I fixed my poor charging issues (mostly corrosion in fuse panel connections) I never had any problems with it. I've been thinking about putting a Valeo on my Corsa Record cafe project, but haven't gotten one yet. Before I do a video, I need to do another youtube channel. I want to keep my current channel all studio-related. But then I could also do some video on my cafe build.
That sounds great Cliff, you'll like it when done.
I agree, Steve. It seems like a great fit for me in numerous ways and is a excellent permanent addition to the garage. Having triple discs in modern traffic won't hurt and it's really nice that it's not a perfect unrestored original bike needing to be preserved.. Getting a legit special bike like this one for reasonable/cheap money nowadays is the best part. Paying full retail price takes all the fun out of it for me.
This clutch makes some chatter while in neutral when idling/running that I'm not used to hearing from a Guzzi. Sounds somewhat like the dry clutch on a Ducati twin with a ventilated cover. But it quiets down completely when it's shifted into gear. Maybe that's normal, maybe not, ??. I haven't done much with other Guzzis with similar mods. With the clutch chattering, lightened flywheel and bub exhaust, it sounds and revs a lot differently than my V7 Sport. I won't be able to ride it until after brake are done and rotten leaky tires are replaced.
I need to measure the lift to get a better idea of what camshaft they may have installed. PO only said they put in a "bigger" camshaft that came from Europe. If it is, bigger carbs may suit it well given the other work that's been done with the engine.
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The noise is most likely a result of the lightened flywheel. Much less damping of combustion impulses causing accelerating and slowing of clutch package and therefore causing rattle.
Brian
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The noise is most likely a result of the lightened flywheel. Much less damping of combustion impulses causing accelerating and slowing of clutch package and therefore causing rattle.
Brian
That's what I suspected. Thanks.
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Maybe it has cindered bronze clutch plates, I was running them in my LM3 till the crash.
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My CX has a lightened flywheel from Ed Milich and I don’t think it rattles but I’ll have to do a side by side comparison with another bike. Maybe different fabricators deliver different sounds?
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Out of curiosity, how much of a difference does a lightened flywheel make? Not that I would do it to my LM1 at this point, just wondering what the effects are.
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Out of curiosity, how much of a difference does a lightened flywheel make? Not that I would do it to my LM1 at this point, just wondering what the effects are.
Quicker acceleration but you give up momentum with the lighter flywheel, at least I do with the CX. If the bike is in 5th gear and a long hill is approaching I just try to keep the rev's up.
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.... but you give up momentum with the lighter flywheel
Interesting, makes sense. I live in an area of rolling hills and I am impressed with how easily my LM1 is going up them. Related note... my brother has a killer wood chipper, one of they key features is the large fly wheel that allows it to chug through larger branches than cheaper ones :thumb:.
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This is my first lightened flywheel Guzzi, so the clutch noise is fine with me as long as it's not a loose/worn parts issue. The clutch pull at hand lever is pretty light as well, not as stiff as my V7 Sport so springs may be soft and contributing to the chatter I'm hearing.
Engine seems to spin and accelerate (in neutral on center stand) quicker than my V7 Sport with stock heavy flywheel, both starting and running. It's not the same slowish Guzzi chug/rev that I'm used to. If said video happens, I'll have to get another good battery to start & rev the two bikes while side by side.
Seller said the camshaft might be a Hite (like kite) or something like that, sourced from Europe in the late 90's. I've done some internet searching but have found nothing of relevance. Any ideas, even if that name was a parts supplier and not a manufacturer?
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Cool, you need to post a video when you can.
Here you go-
https://youtu.be/ExX3YmQel_Q (https://youtu.be/ExX3YmQel_Q)
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Seat was replaced
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What seat is that TOMB?
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Well, I'm headed to ATL to pick it up tomorrow afternoon.
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Thanks, man. I’m still thrilled to have it. Life has clarified other priorities to address recently, so even though I’ve gotten a lot done it’s still not tagged & on the road yet. Just a few test runs so far and I’ve enjoyed those..
Quick update. Brakes are fully redone including new braided ss lines, are still linked and seem to be working well. Lots of rubber bits replaced. Redid wheels to tubeless for new tires. Numerous parts were provided by Scout63/Ben (thanks, man) to resolve missing and fatigued items. The quick cleaning of carbs got it running ok but may not have been enough so trying got make time to get up to the shop to use my ultrasonic cleaner that’s out for more than me alone to use. When I did first ride it, spark knock was noticeable with any amount of throttle so timing was backed off a little, but it didn’t resolve it. Then I found the factory timing marks were no longer on the lightened flywheel and the R & L pricks added by whomever did the flywheel may not be as accurate as they need to be. I’ve not had the time to focus on the bike and sort out the carbs, timing and tuning. Long story…
there are still some details with the electrical like lights/directionals that need address. It may be a matter of switchgear needing replacement. We’ll see.
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Lower fairings would be the same as an SP.
Larry
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I remember Roper saying alloy timing gears were trash. Did you look under the tank for the original color?
I once had a CX that came all taken apart in boxes.
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Lower fairings would be the same as an SP.
Larry
I’ve got the lower fairings to install later. Paint on them is coming off in big pieces….
I remember Roper saying alloy timing gears were trash. Did you look under the tank for the original color?
I once had a CX that came all taken apart in boxes.
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If the timing gears are an issue, they’ll be addressed. From the few remnants found under side covers and the entire incense plate mount, it looks like it was originally a red bike. But the more I look at it, the more I’m liking the non-original white & red paint to go with my red Sport and will-be yellow/green Corsa Record. Lately I’m thinking of adding the day-glow decals around the headlight.
I’m into original paint. Once it’s gone, paint & color means nothing to me. At this point, the effort and budget to paint it back to original livery is the lowest priority of the project. I want the rest to work well so I can ride & enjoy without having to worry about caring for perfect $$$ paint.
Edit- Before anyone asks or messages me, there’s nothing for sale here.. TIA
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I’m still sitting on piles of parts so let me know if I can post anything down Clint. We need more pictures...
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"Then I found the factory timing marks were no longer on the lightened flywheel...."
The timing marks on my CX with the stock flywheel were off which caused me a great amount of headaches until I talked to Dave Richardson and he informed me that it wasn't surprising for the factory to mark them in the wrong place. Then I just made adjustments to get it to run right and eventually adjusted the marks. I have Agostini gears in the CX and 1000S without issue and the CX has had them in there since the mid 1990's and about the same amount of time in the 1000S. I'm not disagreeing with Mr.Roper as he's seen the inside of more engines than myself but I've had no problems; I would look closely at those gears for excessive wear.
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My biggest obstacle lately has been free time to do any of it. Carb kits and other parts are here and waiting. Now that fall is here, some of the lawn mowing time normally becomes shop time for bikes & projects.
As easily as it started and runs well, the actual timing may not have been the main issue. With the obvious work & mods done, the spark knock I noticed may be related to the advance springs in the distributor. No idea what’s in there yet, but will work my way through it and find out.
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(https://i.ibb.co/fGfBDFX/CX100-2021.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fGfBDFX)
GREAT MACHINES! Mine ROCKS!
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I'm really digging my CX-100! Previous owner had done some bizarre stuff to it, but now that I have/am getting those issues sorted out, if is a sweet bike. I still havent fully bonded with it, but it gets better every ride and I trust it more and more.
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I'm really digging my CX-100! Previous owner had done some bizarre stuff to it, but now that I have/am getting those issues sorted out, if is a sweet bike. I still havent fully bonded with it, but it gets better every ride and I trust it more and more.
I changed the fork springs and shocks on mine last year. It's like riding on rails now. Rock solid in the corners! :thumb:
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Thats really cool, that you got the CX Cliffrod. Congratulations! I will be following your project, and am excited to see the finished product,and what direction you take it. That bike definitely found a "good home" :thumb:
Rick Duarte
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My lightened flywheel for the LM2 arrived with no timing marks; take the opportunity to use a piston stop and timing disc to add them in exactly the right place.
My flywheel chatters like a Ducati dry clutch when I pull the clutch in. If you're in need of tyres, I recommend Conti radials, I run them on standard rims tubeless.
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I’m planning to check the present timing marks against piston & valve position to see how viable they are. I have a new pair of Battlax tires on it now. This flywheel/clutch makes noise when bike is in neutral, but quiets down when in gear with lever is pulled.
Thats really cool, that you got the CX Cliffrod. Congratulations! I will be following your project, and am excited to see the finished product,and what direction you take it. That bike definitely found a "good home" :thumb:
Rick Duarte
Thank, Rick. I don’t have big plans to change it, just to get all sorted well and ride it.
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I’ve made some progress lately. Cleaned carbs, checked/set valve clearances, got the timing better sorted and linked brakes are improving. The Bub exhaust sounds great. I need to get some better gas than the handy ethanol-free 87 I use for the mowers. It’s on the edge of ping now so the high rpm speeds are limited/avoided.
Compared to my V7 Sport, the lightened flywheel makes a noticeable difference in how the bike feels & engine performs. as long as the revs stay up, it’s fine. There isn’t the very obvious rush of gathering momentum like the V7 Sport has as rpm increases, but it may be as much about the different engine dimensions & specifics as loss of flywheel mass.
Whatever it is, I’m not sure it will stay like this long term. May go back to a plain flywheel.
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great bikes! here is my le mans 2.
these are becoming rare , in original condition.
its a rider , not a showbike.
only mods are suspension front and rear, deep sump and ignition.
I like it just the way it is, no intention to turn it into another fake 850 le mans.
(https://i.ibb.co/ZYmXg1y/guzzi-le-mans-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZYmXg1y)
(https://i.ibb.co/y8R9136/guzzi-le-mans-2-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/y8R9136)
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great bikes! here is my le mans 2.
these are becoming rare , in original condition.
I like it just the way it is, no intention to turn it into a fake 850 le mans
(https://i.ibb.co/ZYmXg1y/guzzi-le-mans-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZYmXg1y)
(https://i.ibb.co/y8R9136/guzzi-le-mans-2-a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/y8R9136)
Looks great, man. I have no plans to change mine to mimic anything else. I’m liking the square angular detail more and more as time passes even though I hate the original Lemans 1-2-CX100 seat. The aftermarket Stucchi(?) seat makes my bike for me. My lower fairings are in the shop. I understand there is a fitment issue with the lowers vs the Bub head pipes which can damage the lower fairings. I have some plans to check & address that issue after other projects are resolved. So for now, it’ll just be the upper fairing for me.
Here’s a pic of mine from this morning, during a quick test ride-
(https://i.ibb.co/zQjZVWm/404-A1-B43-6-D97-4240-951-C-24-F2-EBEA792-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zQjZVWm)
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nice one!
the original seat is not guzzi's best design :evil: i have a gaman seat for it, but prefer the looks of the original
the gaman seat is probably more comfortable , but running a le mans for comfort misses the point why i own one. .
the le mans 2 /cx100 is a style icon from the eighties, i like it just because of that.
try the lowers just for fun , at high speed the original fairing is amazingly effective.
as long as you can cruise over 80 mph you stay virtually dry behind the fairing.
bought my le mans 2 as a cafe racer, and brought it back to stock.
i'm probably the only one in the world who modified a le mans 2 back to strictly standard condition :grin:
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Congrats! Looks good!!
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You should haul that beast north and wake your sleeping ancestors Clint.
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Thanks, guys.
You should haul that beast north and wake your sleeping ancestors Clint.
Yeah, I know, Ben.. Those long day rides up in VT this time of year get cold quick if you don’t quit early. And quitting early means different things depending upon where you are. Lots of fun to ride big in the late sun up along the big open west side of the state, then end up freezing when you go back into the hills in the middle where I’m from
Wish I had time to just ride over the mountain to Knoxville & back on two wheels instead of four for a change. For the near future, that’s the bulk of my “getaway” miles- college & eldercare won’t last forever.