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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #90 on: December 30, 2020, 12:13:47 AM »
I just opted to spray paint the body silver rather than send it out for zinc plating, clear powder coated the fasteners, bearings went in as per the magneto

Apologies if you already know this!  The dynamo needs to ground through the body - that is how the regulator, field and armature are grounded and how the regulator "knows" the battery voltage.  If it is not grounded through the crankcase and frame it will over charge and over heat the regulator or armature.  I made this mistake on the Ariel the first time I did it!  (The magneto also needs to ground through the crankcase.)

You can check that the dynamo "motors" with a 6 volt battery.  My recollection is that you disconnect the regulator and connect a jumper between the positive field lead and the insulated brush (but double check me!)  you can find instructions on line.  "Motoring" the dynamo does 3 things.  It proves the armature and field windings are working, the internal connections are correct if it rotates the correct direction and it remagnetizes it if the residual magnetism has been lost.  Apparently there are some dynamo problems that "motoring" doesn't reveal, but every one that motored has also charged.

The mag and dynamo parts look great!  That is a home powdercoating setup?

Find someone to remagnetize your magneto after it is reassembled.  Old farm tractor clubs often know someone who can do it.

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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #91 on: December 30, 2020, 10:10:12 AM »
:popcorn:BTW, how are you addressing the pitting? I ask because i have a set of Ambo Headlight ears that I cleaned with Evaporust, and they look similar to that fender.

I no longer do my own painting if I can avoid it, I just hate the mess and smell, the body man / painter that does my projects uses a metal etch primer followed with a two part putty filler, not the same as typical bondo, and a lot of epoxy filler primer. I prepped my Gilera 106 fenders this way in my shop just to remind myself how much I hate paint prep!
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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #92 on: December 30, 2020, 10:18:46 AM »
Apologies if you already know this!  The dynamo needs to ground through the body - that is how the regulator, field and armature are grounded and how the regulator "knows" the battery voltage.  If it is not grounded through the crankcase and frame it will over charge and over heat the regulator or armature.  I made this mistake on the Ariel the first time I did it!  (The magneto also needs to ground through the crankcase.) The mag and dynamo parts look great!  That is a home powdercoating setup?

Find someone to remagnetize your magneto after it is reassembled.  Old farm tractor clubs often know someone who can do it.

thanks again Shawn, I should have known the dynamo case was zinc plated for a good reason🙁 oh well the dynamo will get disassembled and the silver paint stripped, off to the plater! I should have done it right the first time. That will give me the chance to test it as per your thorough description.

I do most of my own powder paint on small bits in my old kitchen wall oven in the shop. The black on the dynamo cap, the magneto and horn are spray painted with POR-15 direct to metal black paint. POR-15 is very tough and since I did not pull the guts out of the horn, powder coating/ oven was not an option

I have a buddy into old Ford tractors I will check with for magnetizing the magneto.
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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #93 on: December 30, 2020, 05:46:14 PM »
Pulled apart the dynamo, stripped the paint off the case and drilled out the machine screw that retains the field coil. Those screws never want to come out easy on a Bosch starter motor, same design so I just dill them out a matter of course.



Since I am going to the plating shop I figured I may as well fill a tub, he charges me $80 for a tub of parts to get cad plated. Brake drums, foot pegs, steering stem, spokes etc, going to get plate prior to painting, I won't have to get the inside of the drums painted and it will coat the inside of the hubs,  hard to get to foot peg pivots etc.



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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #93 on: December 30, 2020, 05:46:14 PM »

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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #94 on: January 05, 2021, 06:57:39 PM »
A little progress for the start of the year, I dropped off a bin of pieces to get cad plated yesterday morning and at noon today the work was done! The local plating shop I use is just amazing.

I wanted the brake drums plated prior to getting the drums turned, no paint on the inside of the drum, new linings on the shoes and a matched arc of the finished shoe, dropped the front and rear brake assemblies off at the brake shop at the end of the day.



I drilled out the steel rivets holding the fender brackets to the sheet metal fenders so I can get paint under the brackets, chose to plate the brackets before painting, re-plated the spokes and few other parts I decided to have protected, parts where some of the steel is not painted. Good You Tube videos showing how steel domed rivets are mushroomed using a proper tool bit in an air hammer and a hand held anvil on the side hat gets flattened, the bits are available for cheap on Ebay from China. New 1/4" diameter domes rivets will go back in.

Got the dynamo body back and the unit bench tested to run on 6V, works fine. Good web site in the UK - The Magneto Guys explained how to test the dynamo.



I did my own powder coating on the black parts, seat frame, spring box, head light and tail light, some small pitting on the headlight  and tail light did not fill with powder, will sand them down and re=powder coat them again (the professional shop I use tells me I can coat over powder to three layers). I took the tin seat clips in for cad plating so I just need to rivet the fresh pieces back onto the good seat fabric and reassemble it with new rivets.



I boxed up the parts that will get chrome plated (along with the flywheel) and sent them off to the chrome plating shop in Calgary.



Once the brakes are done all the rest of the steel parts go to the powder coater for bright red. Fenders, gas tank and oil tank get regular sprayed base / clear.

I bought a Beugler pin stripe machine from Eastwood Automotive to try my hand at pinstriping the red and gold lines on the fenders, oil tank and gas tank. I have a couple old Ducati red painted fenders to practice on. This [in stripe machine has been around since 1934, little has changed since it was first offered, really good You Tube videos showing how to use it.

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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #95 on: January 06, 2021, 04:42:32 PM »
i am a new owner of a 1962 Moto Guzzi Lodola 235. Can someone tell me the best motor oil to use? I'm assuming straight 30wt but would like to hear from someone that knows more than me.
Also, the dipstick is on a screw cap on the sump. the stick slides up and down thru the cap. i assume there was originally a float that slid the stick up or down indicating oil level. any ideas on what to use for new float??
Really appreciate any help, thoughts , ideas.
best to all.
 

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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #96 on: January 06, 2021, 05:19:05 PM »
i am a new owner of a 1962 Moto Guzzi Lodola 235. Can someone tell me the best motor oil to use? I'm assuming straight 30wt but would like to hear from someone that knows more than me.
Also, the dipstick is on a screw cap on the sump. the stick slides up and down thru the cap. i assume there was originally a float that slid the stick up or down indicating oil level. any ideas on what to use for new float??
Really appreciate any help, thoughts , ideas.
best to all.

I suggest you join the Moto Guzzi Single group and post your question there, plenty of knowledgeable people on the singles group that can help

https://groups.google.com/g/guzzi-singles

Also if you need a manual this site has access to many Italian motorcycle manuals

https://www.rpw.it/Documentazione.htm

good luck with your Guzzi!

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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #97 on: January 06, 2021, 05:26:47 PM »
I put the seat back together today, the steel clips were re-plated and Charlie M. helped me find new split rivets. the original seat has no damage so I was glad to save it





Chanel lock pliers work great for folding and pressing the steel straps around the seat frame while applying pressure over the center of the rivet head



Headlight shell still had remnants of pits after two passes of powder coat so I applied some two part filer putty and wet sanded it down, will coat with Por-15 Top Coat black to finish it





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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #98 on: January 06, 2021, 06:53:30 PM »
i am a new owner of a 1962 Moto Guzzi Lodola 235. Can someone tell me the best motor oil to use? I'm assuming straight 30wt but would like to hear from someone that knows more than me.
Also, the dipstick is on a screw cap on the sump. the stick slides up and down thru the cap. i assume there was originally a float that slid the stick up or down indicating oil level. any ideas on what to use for new float??
Really appreciate any help, thoughts , ideas.
best to all.

You might get more information if you start your own thread in General Discussion. There are a number of Lodola owners on Wildguzzi.
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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #99 on: January 06, 2021, 10:28:13 PM »
Your work is beautiful and thorough.  and that plater turned it around amazingly fast!

Congrats on the dynamo.  Was the brown field lead positive?
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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #100 on: January 06, 2021, 10:49:59 PM »
Your work is beautiful and thorough.  and that plater turned it around amazingly fast!

Congrats on the dynamo.  Was the brown field lead positive?

Thanks Shawn,

Yes the brown wire is positive. Testing was just like you suggested. I still need to take the magneto in to get magnetized. I bought a pair of rims off Italian EBay today, have heard nothing from Valenti or Retro in months. Soon I can’t go much further without more parts.
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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #101 on: January 08, 2021, 06:31:24 PM »
Valenti sent some parts for the carb, new bits on the bottom except for the slide, carb has been ultrasonic cleaned



The slide was sticking in the body, I used 1000 grit wet / dry to sand smooth the body bore and then push the slide in and remove. noting the witness marks on the brass slide, then sand down the high spots on the slide and repeat over and over again until the slide slid down to the bottom and smoothly raised up, took a couple hours of gentle sanding.



The body and remote bowl has been painted as per the original but the colour should more silver



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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #102 on: January 09, 2021, 10:14:15 PM »
Assembled the headlight shell, replaced most of the wires and the PVC sheathing. Shell was finished with a couple coats of POR-15 gloss black top coat over the powder coat base



the red and green plastic lenses were held in place with a rubber ring, long since turned rock hard and fell apart upon disassembly, I fitted thick rubber O rings in their place but will need to look for a pair of flat sided rubber O rings to snug them up to the shell.



I am looking for a new 6V festoon bulb that snaps into the fitting on the switch plate, anyone have a source for these, everyone I have are too big or too small.
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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #103 on: January 09, 2021, 11:26:26 PM »
Guzzi seemed to use festoon bulbs for fuses too.  I've seen a bulb in one and a ceramic fuse in another.  Let me know where you find them - I had to repair a fuse!   :tongue:

BTW when Amal carb bodies distort enough to pinch the slide it is because the mounting bolts have been over tightened on a soft gasket.  Over tightening bends the flange and distorts the body.  Don't re-surface the flange or the next time you mount the carb it will distort the carb body more.  (BTDT!)  I have successfully inserted a long wooden dowel of the correct diameter through the carb body and then used it to press the flange against a flat surface and was able to correct the distortion some.
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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #104 on: January 10, 2021, 04:20:42 PM »
Over tightening bends the flange and distorts the body.  Don't re-surface the flange or the next time you mount the carb it will distort the carb body more.

Good advice, thanks,

Picked off a couple small jobs today, powder coated the center stand and licence plate frame, the plate frame was very rusted, the plate will hide it but it would be good to find a better one.



One of the thin metal plugs on the backside of the fork tube lower leg went AWOL, I made a thin steel plug and welded it in trying to make use of my crude TIG skill




This is the plate that was on the bike when I got it, I wonder if it represents a government agency vehicle?


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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #105 on: January 10, 2021, 07:08:29 PM »
Wow! That plate looks like new!
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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #106 on: January 12, 2021, 04:38:21 PM »
Knocked off a small job today, built a new replica wire harness, British Wiring in the USA supplies all the wire in various gauges and colours sold by the meter, the pvc sheathing in various sizes and all the crimp connectors, no order too small and great service. They carry every possible wire colour combination you can think of to replicate an original wire harness.

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I had bought a new Aprilia headlight shell a couple years ago hoping it would fit a CEV bucket (it didn't) and promptly forgot I had it, turns out it is the exact one I need for the Airone, a faint bell went off in my head before I sent the original one off to be plated



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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #107 on: January 13, 2021, 04:08:37 PM »
Hi Jim,
the CFS on the licence plate stands for Corpo Forestale dello Stato. A government forestry guard corp. task with the protection of wild habitats and forests.
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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #108 on: January 14, 2021, 10:01:09 AM »
Hi Jim,
the CFS on the licence plate stands for Corpo Forestale dello Stato. A government forestry guard corp. task with the protection of wild habitats and forests.
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Thanks Luca!

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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #109 on: January 14, 2021, 03:18:46 PM »
I pulled the tool box hinge pin out of one of the boxes with no effort, the second one would not budge. The pin one the second box had a little bit of brazing on the ends of the pins, I heated up the brass to drive the pin out but the heat of the torch melted the brass and one of the hinges just fell apart along with a good inch of the base of the door, not good!
After fretting about it for a day and deciding to not buy reproductions ( 200 Euro for a pair) I cleaned off the steel and slowly built up the bottom lip of the door with TIG, then machined out the weld from the concave inside lip and filled the outside to profile. I used a small length of 20 gauge sheet metal, heated red hot and folded over a spoke to make a hinge, leaving about 1mm of leg on the bottom to meet up with the door. I fitted the spoke through the door and the 'loose' hinge, clamped it all in place, crossed my fingers and braised the door to the hinge. The top hinge is the new piece. The TIG  / filler rod patch is very hard to make out but it runs the length of the hinge and extends about 3/4" past and forms the entire vertical leg of the door.



Now if I had just left the pin in place I wouldn't have had to do any of this :thewife: My painter likes to separate tool box lids from their bases and fit new brass rod. Its not perfect but I am pretty pleased with the save.

I have been looking through the 47, 48 and 49 parts catalogues and based upon this bike having the non finned rear brake drum I think it is a 1948 or perhaps very early 49 before they changes to the finned drum. Its not a 47 as the parts manual shows the exposed valve springs in 47. So I think I will call this a 1948 from now on unless some one can confirm the date by the serial number for me;  frame stamped M*22248*
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Re: 1948 Airone - restoration
« Reply #110 on: January 18, 2021, 06:44:18 PM »
Retired the original Airone header and muffler, after bead blasting the black paint / rust off it the high temp bondo or perhaps epoxy filler showed itself in many places on the muffler, a shot of silver paint and I hung it up in the shop as Guzzi 'art', one more series of parts to order .....

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Re: 1948 Airone - restoration
« Reply #111 on: January 22, 2021, 08:17:12 PM »
Outstanding toolbox repair.  You are learning those TIG skills!  And good tip on BritishWiring - thanks. 
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Re: 1948 Airone - restoration
« Reply #112 on: January 23, 2021, 11:35:56 AM »
Outstanding toolbox repair.  You are learning those TIG skills!  And good tip on BritishWiring - thanks.

Thanks Shawn,  I heard from Retro yesterday, my last batch of GTV parts are in the mail Monday!  Valenti order is still coming, lots of small GTV parts in that order. No word yet on where my Airone order is at. While waiting on parts I have kept busy repainting the shop and a big clean up.
Painted the drywall partitions, hung up and organized posters and wiped down everything, I know I am bored.



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Re: 1948 Airone - restoration
« Reply #113 on: January 27, 2021, 10:00:11 PM »
Nice clean shop!  Attention to detail.  Mine has Ariel parts all over the place! 
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Re: 1949 Airone - restoration
« Reply #114 on: January 28, 2021, 01:10:55 AM »
I am looking for a new 6V festoon bulb that snaps into the fitting on the switch plate, anyone have a source for these, everyone I have are too big or too small.

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Re: 1948 Airone - restoration
« Reply #115 on: January 28, 2021, 10:04:58 AM »
Jim, did you settle on a paint code for your Airone?  I only ask as I'm restoring a friend's Falcone.  According to feedback from the Guzzi Singles forum RAL 3020 Traffic Red is the best match.  Well our painter has used this and I think it's rather orange.  Certainly it's very different from the colour of my own Falcone, but I have no idea if this is correct either.  Anyway Phil (the owner) is happy with the colour so that's what we're going with...but it does seem a bit orangey.

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Re: 1948 Airone - restoration
« Reply #116 on: January 28, 2021, 03:44:16 PM »
that looks a lot brighter than what I had imagined the colour to be. The red inside the Airone tool box lids appears to be original and its certainly darker. I am waiting on the hubs / drums to come back from the brake shop with new linings fitted and arced / turned drums before I can send pars off to paint.

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Re: 1948 Airone - restoration
« Reply #117 on: January 29, 2021, 03:09:44 AM »
Ah that colour looks more like Amaranth than red.
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Re: 1948 Airone - restoration
« Reply #118 on: January 29, 2021, 09:42:39 AM »
Ah that colour looks more like Amaranth than red.

The poor quality image from my I phone shows darker than it is. Other than the gas tank the bike had original paint, sun bleached a bit but still a deep red. Pictures at the start of the post show the original colour, inside of tool boxes and tool box lids match. GUZZI may have used various red paints over the years and this being a 1948 may have been a darker red than later models. According to the service manual the original factory paint was cellulose, oven baked, no clear coat or UV inhibitors back then! Red paint fades, bleaches etc, more than most any other colour and reds tend to chalk and/or fade to an orange tint.
 
The original paint on my 57 Cardellino is in very good shape but has lost its sheen and turned much darker (towards a brown tint) with age, the paint on the frame under the tank is still fairly bright and a much shaper red. So many variables of temperature, humidity, sun exposure etc to effect paint differently from one region to another. I don't think there is a wrong shade of red to apply but from seeing the bikes in the Guzzi museum most current restorations (mine included) paint finishes are far brighter and deeper than what the factory produced.

The Buddy Stubs Harley Davidson museum in Phoenix AZ has both a Falcone and a Gilera Saturno 500, they appear to be original and the red paint is dull and the quality of the finish is not great. There is also a Norton Commando on display, all original red / silver paint and the sheen and quality is dreadful by todays standards.
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Re: 1948 Airone - restoration
« Reply #119 on: March 05, 2021, 02:46:47 PM »
A wee bit of progress, the chrome plating is done and parts returned to me, very happy with the work, the arrow on the flywheel has been retained with a sharp imprint.



The local brake shop has had my shoes and drums for going on two months now, 'he is getting to it', told me the rear hub was bent and he is straightening it.
Can not proceed with powder coating the frame and hubs until I get the brake parts back.... still waiting on Valenti for parts, I think its four months and counting now, good thing I have lots of other projects, some of them motorcycle related.
48 Guzzi Airone, 57 Guzzi Cardellino, 65 Benelli 200 sprite, 66 Aermacchi Sprint, 68 Gilera 106 SS, 72 Eldorado, 72 Benelli 180, 74 Guzzi 750S, 73 Laverda SF1, 74  Benelli 650S, 75 Ducati 860GT, 75 Moto Morini 3-1/2, 78 Moto Morinii 500

 

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