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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #480 on: August 25, 2020, 07:16:34 PM »
It's a beauty Les :grin: :thumb:
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #481 on: August 26, 2020, 01:31:22 PM »
I must say, you haven't posted many full frame pictures where you can see the bike in all it's glory, but it looks fantastic!
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #482 on: August 26, 2020, 08:34:28 PM »
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The windscreen brackets, I need to machine a 30 mm radius to those risers to suit the mounts that came on the bike.







A band saw one day.... Some hand sawing of 40 x 25 bar for extra exercise.
Will I use the screen, maybe, probably but either way the mounts will be there made.
8 mm holes and M 8 to be tapped.


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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #483 on: August 27, 2020, 12:43:29 AM »
Recessed cap-screw in the centre, Helicoil at the threaded hole.
I took the easy option and did the radius in the vice with a boring head set to 60 mm.


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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #484 on: August 27, 2020, 06:59:45 AM »
Its to hard to get an accurate picture/photo but I broke out the Never-Dull and gave the fuel tank chrome panels a light polish, from 47 years old to maybe 10 years in a few minutes.
It even works on chrome plated plastic as on Lucas indicators without scratching.
Its a great product.

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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #485 on: August 28, 2020, 01:43:29 AM »
Just a quick 180 km run today to get some brass and some sundry fasteners... We are only days away from Spring now and perfect riding weather is already here... The hot will be here before Christmas.

No point in cutting corners now, it looks like the screen and mounts will account for a couple of days easily if not more.

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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #486 on: August 30, 2020, 05:00:28 PM »




Dan Brown panniers now.
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #487 on: September 04, 2020, 06:45:53 AM »



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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #488 on: September 04, 2020, 07:23:00 AM »
I gotta say those spacer/washers look so cool!!  Just a wild little detail
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #489 on: September 04, 2020, 06:52:53 PM »
Everything you do is beautiful Les. Can't wait for you to ride it :grin: :thumb:
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #490 on: September 06, 2020, 02:19:38 AM »
It's almost a case of, all dressed up and nowhere to go.
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #491 on: September 06, 2020, 04:23:53 AM »
No idea what that is Les.  :huh: :grin:
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #492 on: September 06, 2020, 05:37:10 AM »
It fits to the threaded hole to the right of the lower generator pulley for ignition setting.
The alloy disc gets degree calibrations for both cylinders but with one set of points any discrepancy would be hard to rectify.
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« Reply #493 on: September 06, 2020, 06:44:59 PM »
It fits to the threaded hole to the right of the lower generator pulley for ignition setting.
The alloy disc gets degree calibrations for both cylinders but with one set of points any discrepancy would be hard to rectify.

Clear as mud Les :grin: I have to admit :embarrassed: But it's a terrific piece of work :thumb: and I won't ask anymore stupid questions :angel:
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #494 on: September 06, 2020, 08:16:08 PM »
No such thing as a stupeed question Bill.

The gismo will work with these marks but all will be at the front of the pulley instead of at the rear as per stock.

TDC - 10 - 20 with 2 increments to 38 full advance.



I used the advance springs that were in the distributor (iirc) which were not the same (They might be the stock ones)
The crankshaft degree wheel of truth will soon tell me what is going on as far as the advance curve (Charlie M did say something about the springs but forget what it was as far as spring replacement and the curve being fast or slow.)

It will get another set of degree lines for the other cylinder.

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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #495 on: September 06, 2020, 08:19:26 PM »
The pointer (block) is not permanent, only fit / removed at timing checking. (I like all maintenance to be easy or as easy as can be)
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #496 on: September 07, 2020, 12:02:18 AM »
No more bolts in the generator belt drive flange, studs (Made from three of the original M6 sump/pan bolts) will make it easier to fit the belt.

PCD on the flange fasteners is 50 mm.
The spacer plates for belt tension are replaced with a single alloy spacer (for now)
The timing marks will be easier to see and the two TDC marks will make valve adjustment easier also.





A first for milling graduated lines and was surprised how well they came out using a 1 mm drill in the chuck with the smallest stick out at high speed.
The large lines are 0.2mm deep, the smaller 0.1mm deep with multiple passes.

To easy, start engine, shine timing light to see where the finger is pointing.  :laugh:




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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #497 on: September 07, 2020, 09:19:31 PM »
You could market that, stunning!
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #498 on: September 07, 2020, 10:14:30 PM »
Now I get it!!!
Excellent :grin: :thumb:
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #499 on: September 07, 2020, 10:30:51 PM »
Wow, it even resembles a finger!!! I have never seen so much detailed milling work.
A selfish thought: I don't want this quest to end.
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #500 on: September 10, 2020, 03:16:24 AM »
If I keep losing things it may very well go on until the end of time if not longer.
Carburettor synchronisation hose fittings somewhere unknown so had to make some.










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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #501 on: September 10, 2020, 04:13:50 AM »
Boy, it looks good Les :grin: :thumb:
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #502 on: September 11, 2020, 04:55:18 PM »
The long and winding road.

Its all the small bits now, the knob/wheel ? on the DIY dipstick came loose as I found out one day and then had to double nut it for removal.
It now has Loctite 660 and a M3 10 mm long SS grub screw (at the 6:00 position installed :wink:) to stop any detachment.
When I got the bike it had one of those pull to remove dipsticks but it did not reach the oil, this one does so should be handy.





 


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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #503 on: September 25, 2020, 05:05:15 AM »
I moved it from the living room to the garage, the last time it was there was when it was unloaded as a bare frame and storage bins from the Interstate move.
It got a tune put on it a day or so back and runs like a champ so will most likely get a roadworthy next week in preparation for registration.


 
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #504 on: September 26, 2020, 11:11:54 AM »
I can hear the drum roll starting!!
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #505 on: September 26, 2020, 05:37:26 PM »
Its running very nicely Dave but spent yesterday replacing that silly DIY fuel cross pretty much to the first but unmade version.
Now it is simply the two fittings back to back with the gauze filter between them with a small brass collar to centralise things.

 

The reality is I could ride it within an hour.
I did get another distributor to do the electronic conversion but that can be for another time and was surprised to find the timing for both cylinders was exactly the same.
The stock distributor seems to do a fine job including both the same at full advance.

The tank is ready to refit and seat and then a general check over, its getting hot here now and still Spring.
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #506 on: September 26, 2020, 06:10:22 PM »
Getting a bit warm, Les? Go for a ride on that custom made motorcycle and you won't notice a thing :grin:
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #507 on: September 27, 2020, 06:17:04 PM »
I just got back from filling my petrol container so anything is possible.
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #508 on: September 30, 2020, 04:44:09 PM »
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Re: Eldorado and the quest to ride a Moto Guzzi for the first time.
« Reply #509 on: October 02, 2020, 04:26:43 AM »
I have 4.7 miles on the odometer.
It runs OK but the power seems very average and the sooty plugs now confirmed to be weak spark.

Maybe it is the new condenser but will have to start swapping parts to find the cause.
I had noted the new points seemed of poor quality an fit so maybe they have some input.

I had suspected the stock V1000 jetting at first (not wanting to believe it was ignition being all new parts even though the plugs clearly showed it)
I will have to troubleshoot that and picked up some bungs to weld into the old headers so I can fit Bosch O2 sensors (Of course the desired location is under the floorboards so not straight forward) 
 
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