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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #180 on: November 15, 2020, 09:07:28 PM »
When I took my Griso to the Arctic circle I wrapped a simple piece of rubber mat about 6" wide around the bottom of the engine to deflect stones, this kept it very clean.
How about something similar on the V85 e.g 3mm carbon fibre or even polythene starting about mid way down the alternator to back about the start of gearbox.

I really like what you have done so far, something to strive for.
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #181 on: November 16, 2020, 01:16:26 AM »
When I took my Griso to the Arctic circle I wrapped a simple piece of rubber mat about 6" wide around the bottom of the engine to deflect stones, this kept it very clean.
How about something similar on the V85 e.g 3mm carbon fibre or even polythene starting about mid way down the alternator to back about the start of gearbox.

I really like what you have done so far, something to strive for.
I like the rubber idea.
My mental image is a piece about 1/4” thick. The cushioning effect would be advantageous.

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #182 on: November 16, 2020, 03:24:11 AM »
Short length of conveyor belt?
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #183 on: November 16, 2020, 04:05:46 AM »
Short length of conveyor belt?
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Re: V85 facelift
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #184 on: November 17, 2020, 02:15:05 AM »
Personally, I could do without the tangs to fit the skid plates. 
Four bolts to take them off, mine weren’t even done up ex factory.. :rolleyes:

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #185 on: December 24, 2020, 02:16:48 AM »
These finally turned up today.


They’re going in here..








Should go ok..
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #186 on: December 24, 2020, 04:45:49 AM »
Mounted my Stedi 25w on the crash bars, but might still raise them up a bit.








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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #187 on: December 24, 2020, 04:51:56 AM »
Mounted my Stedi 25w on the crash bars, but might still raise them up a bit.








Jeez, they look Damn good from here mate..

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #188 on: December 24, 2020, 05:09:43 AM »
The higher the mount, the greater the penetration.  Huzo, I'm assuming you mean atop the lower triple-clamp?
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #189 on: December 24, 2020, 05:12:29 AM »
The higher the mount, the greater the penetration.  Huzo, I'm assuming you mean atop the lower triple-clamp?
Yes mate.
Between the existing lights and triple clamp.

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« Reply #190 on: December 24, 2020, 12:52:47 PM »
The clamps I have for the spot lights will fit the outer bars on the headlights, so they might end up there.




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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #191 on: December 24, 2020, 07:39:07 PM »
The higher the mount, the greater the penetration.
Now THAT sounds like good advice.. :wink:

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #192 on: December 24, 2020, 07:41:54 PM »
Huzo,

any plans to strip the black paint off the engine and/or transmission?
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #193 on: December 24, 2020, 07:50:24 PM »
Huzo,

any plans to strip the black paint off the engine and/or transmission?
If I thought I could have gotten into the fins without stripping the engine, I would have mate.
I would be prepared to remove the engine/gearbox, but not strip the donk.
To have silver with black underneath is not acceptable.
Cylinders would require chemical removal or vapour blast, complete dissassembly.

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« Reply #194 on: December 24, 2020, 10:43:33 PM »
If I thought I could have gotten into the fins without stripping the engine, I would have mate.
I would be prepared to remove the engine/gearbox, but not strip the donk.
To have silver with black underneath is not acceptable.
Cylinders would require chemical removal or vapour blast, complete dissassembly.

Yeah.  I don't think that "hiding" the cylinders by painting them black did anything for the looks of the bike.  Guzzi cylinders should be at least seen and preferably highlighted.

On air cooled most bikes. black cylinders and polished fin edges look good to my eye.  I think by just taking the paint off the tops of the "fins" on the valve covers, it would do a surprising amount to highlight the cylinders.  If it were my bikes, I'd try a rubber sanding block and maybe some 220 grit paper as a quick experiment.  You can always repaint in black easily.

The pewter color of some bike engines might look better than black.  Easier to paint than strip.
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #195 on: December 24, 2020, 11:48:45 PM »
The rocker cover thing is something I seriously considered, but not convinced enough to commit to it.
If I did that, it would command attention somewhere else IMO.

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« Reply #196 on: December 25, 2020, 09:01:56 AM »
The rocker cover thing is something I seriously considered, but not convinced enough to commit to it.
If I did that, it would command attention somewhere else IMO.

Yeah, different color, excuse me, colour, valve covers almost always look lazy and/or cheap to me.

That Guzzi engine, lacking side covers, does not lend itself to easy detailing.

Tough to evaluate without the bike in front of me.

I think it would be surprising how much just highlighting the valve cover "fins" would make those cylinders "pop" out.

At a minimum, I would try some pin striping tape or maybe a bottle of White Out which could be easily reversed.

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #197 on: December 26, 2020, 03:45:15 AM »
Hmmm..yeah.
Anyway, I went about mounting the auxiliary lights on the V85.
I had a couple of methods kicking around, but the longer I thought about them, the less keen I got. After a lot more thinking, I decided to do this.l


That meant I could mount the lights directly by their own fittings, accept for one small glitch.
The front surface of the lower clamp is not straight, so the lights would have been “toed in” and I was not going to accept that.
So I made two thick packers with an angled rear face, so that careful rotating would result in the lights being aligned straight and then pitched up or down to suit the attitude of the bike.
So that got me to here..






You’d think that would be wonderful and it (mostly) is, but the eagle eyed among you will notice that whilst the auxiliary lights are facing directly forward, the main headlight cluster faces off to the right, (as viewed by the rider..)
Bugger it all..!
Now I have to fix that mess..!
« Last Edit: July 07, 2022, 03:56:39 PM by Huzo »

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #198 on: December 26, 2020, 09:02:23 AM »
Having cross-eyed spotties might not be such a bad thing.  It might look weird, but could prove useful for spotting & deterring those dusk-time Skippys lurking on the verges.
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #199 on: December 26, 2020, 11:24:39 AM »
Having cross-eyed spotties might not be such a bad thing.  It might look weird, but could prove useful for spotting & deterring those dusk-time Skippys lurking on the verges.
It’s not quite that way though KD.
The spots can be aimed as you say, but they are currently straight forward. It’s the main headlights that are off centre and it looks pox.
I’ll fix it today...(somehow..).

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #200 on: December 26, 2020, 12:54:11 PM »
My headlights were off center as well.  Loosen the two bolts that hold the bracket to the frame.  There is enough room in the holes to shift the head lights centering them.  Hold them in place until you snug the bolts and you are good to go.  Merry Christmas Huzo.
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #201 on: December 26, 2020, 12:59:45 PM »
My headlights were off center as well.  Loosen the two bolts that hold the bracket to the frame.  There is enough room in the holes to shift the head lights centering them.  Hold them in place until you snug the bolts and you are good to go.  Merry Christmas Huzo.
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #202 on: December 26, 2020, 03:45:10 PM »
Had a look this morning and did this..



With the front wheel IN LINE it became possible to manipulate the packers to align the spots and get them in line with the headlights.
Now they look like this.



I don’t think I’d put my vernier on them, but they will do until a night time run is done.
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« Reply #203 on: December 26, 2020, 04:29:16 PM »
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« Reply #204 on: December 26, 2020, 05:50:46 PM »

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #205 on: December 26, 2020, 08:04:16 PM »
Mounted my Stedi 25w on the crash bars, but might still raise them up a bit.








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I am somewhat perplexed as to which wire/s to tap into behind the headlight.
I have found two wires that are live when high beam is on, but they stay live when low beam is selected.

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« Reply #206 on: December 27, 2020, 04:33:58 AM »
Ok.
Well I ended up finding the wire that powers up the high beam circuit to the headlights from the left hand cluster (white), and ran it through a relay.
I have the spots so they come on with high beam. I don’t have a controller to adjust illumination and would not rule out fitting one, but for now I’ll keep it as it is.
Tomorrow I’ll check the aiming and call it quits.

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #207 on: December 29, 2020, 04:00:10 PM »
I’m really starting to think that black needs to come off the engine/gearbox.
Would vapour blasting do the job ?
Walnut shell maybe ?

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« Reply #208 on: December 29, 2020, 10:04:04 PM »
I’m really starting to think that black needs to come off the engine/gearbox.
Would vapour blasting do the job ?
Walnut shell maybe ?

If you don't mind the possibility of oil seeps.

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« Reply #209 on: December 30, 2020, 01:28:53 AM »
If you don't mind the possibility of oil seeps.

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Do you expect the engine to leak if I change the colour ?

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