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Title: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 27, 2021, 04:00:23 PM
For a change of pace lately I have been thinking about a Buell. A 2006 Ulysses has popped up f/s for what is reasonable money. Who knows maybe some American iron will be in the future............. .I've pissed away more on less....


(https://i.ibb.co/B37xCT1/IMG-20200730-191129549.jpg) (https://ibb.co/B37xCT1)

Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: fotoguzzi on March 27, 2021, 04:17:32 PM
You will want to see if it has the updated EBR  CPU.
much better fueling if it's matched to any upgrades like exhaust. . And that ECU was know to get sandwiched under the seat and it squashed the wiring then they fail. There are fixes. best forum Is badweatherbikers. Find all your answers on the the XB board,
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/32777.html?

Here's my video, might be the best bike video I ever made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFeuPWgDB9k

I miss mine it was the XT version that I did some mods to.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Buell/i-D8Ksgpm/0/585051e5/L/IMG_0391_zpsf7c443a5-L.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Buell/i-D8Ksgpm/A)
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 27, 2021, 04:20:26 PM
Update:

It bought and the seller is delivering tomorrow. It has a drummer off-road ECU??? 

Here's the ad... I'm stoked!

https://advrider.com/f/threads/buell-ulysses.1494638/
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: fotoguzzi on March 27, 2021, 04:23:10 PM
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Buell/i-MZNn9hm/0/ad97f2fc/L/ECMrelocation_zpsc21ff8c0-L.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Buell/i-MZNn9hm/A)

I used silly putty to check the swish under the seat,
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Buell/i-pNHspDc/0/09f46030/L/IMG_0802_zps4913b6cb-L.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Buell/i-pNHspDc/A)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Buell/i-Bq7pJ6M/0/5e8db8d5/M/ECMendocamshot_zps319bbe30-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Buell/i-Bq7pJ6M/A)
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: fotoguzzi on March 27, 2021, 04:24:56 PM
Update:

It bought and the seller is delivering tomorrow. It has a drummer off-road ECU??? 

Here's the ad... I'm stoked!

https://advrider.com/f/threads/buell-ulysses.1494638/
nice, you will love the torq.

Check oil when fully hot, even running other wise a lot flows back into the swing arm oil tank and give false reading.

You will use tools you've never touched in your tool kit like torx tips, getting to the belt for a change takes about a dozen different tools, all common nothing specialized.
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 27, 2021, 04:47:13 PM
Lot of Hexhead BMW's so torx are familiar. I've read that with Buell there are a mix of metric and standard tool so when working on the bike just get everything out.
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Motormike on March 27, 2021, 04:51:32 PM
The little spacer block that was Buell's band-aid fix for the seat pan coming in contact with the ECU is insufficient.  Various ways to relocate or protect the delicate connectors from being cracked by the seat pan.  I (and every other Uly owner) will always wonder why they didn't mount it somewhere else like on the other XB's.
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: sidecarnutz on March 27, 2021, 05:01:27 PM
Very cool bike there! Have fun with it!
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: steven c on March 27, 2021, 05:16:58 PM
 I have had my 06 for 13 years, Just a fun great handling bike. Be careful grabbing a handful in first or second or you will be looking at the sky.
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: ajpjive on March 27, 2021, 05:28:54 PM
Nice bike, congrats on the buy!

If anyone else is feeling some Buell love and wants a good starter/fun bike, Iíve got a Blast for sale. :)
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 27, 2021, 05:38:41 PM
I have had my 06 for 13 years, Just a fun great handling bike. Be careful grabbing a handful in first or second or you will be looking at the sky.

 Laissez les bons temps rouler  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Guzzidad on March 27, 2021, 05:47:56 PM
   Rear wheel bearing a common failure. #6006 IIRC
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Motormike on March 27, 2021, 08:12:34 PM
That's right.  I'd forgotten about the rear wheel bearing issues.  I put a Free Spirits belt tensioner on mine.  Lots of debate if it helps or not, but I never have had a rear bearing fail.  The 2010 three bearing rear wheel was the solution.  Probably un-obtanium by now.
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: dxhall on March 27, 2021, 08:39:43 PM
I had an Ď06 Ulysses a few years ago.  I think the burned skin on my right inner thigh has finally healed.  Youíll find out ...
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Tom on March 27, 2021, 11:10:46 PM
 :grin:
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: steven c on March 28, 2021, 09:24:04 AM
I had an Ď06 Ulysses a few years ago.  I think the burned skin on my right inner thigh has finally healed.  Youíll find out ...
Yup, never ride my Uly without my AD1 pants! But my friends who have them who are tall and rode with the tall seat never had an issue with the heat.
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Motormike on March 28, 2021, 09:40:29 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/Hx0PJwY/Barber-demo-rides-July-06.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Hx0PJwY)
I never found the heat to be an issue, as long as you're wearing good riding paints.  The frame does get hot though, especially in the summer.  Years ago, I attended a Buell-sponsored track day at Barber ( a factory sponsored track day on their demo bikes...what a concept!) in July.  Now those were some hot bikes! You could fry and egg on the frame/fuel tank.  The cooling fans on all the bikes never stopped running. 

Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Craig in Alabama on March 28, 2021, 02:07:02 PM
Hey Motormike!

I was at that Buell event on my '07 XB12X. Great fun. Did a couple stints on the 1125R. Loved it!

First thing I did was make an air scoop (out of fiberglass) for the right side to help cool the rear cylinder. Worked great, and my fan ran a lot less frequently.

You'll love it, Perazzimx14!

Cheers!
Craig
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: SmithSwede on March 28, 2021, 02:10:37 PM
For a change of pace lately I have been thinking about a Buell. A 2006 Ulysses has popped up f/s for what is reasonable money. Who knows maybe some American iron will be in the future............. .I've pissed away more on less....


(https://i.ibb.co/B37xCT1/IMG-20200730-191129549.jpg) (https://ibb.co/B37xCT1)


You have experienced a lot of bikes and have excellent taste.   Please thoroughly ride that thing for a few months and give us a report.   Iíve always been tempted by the Buells
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 28, 2021, 02:29:11 PM
You have experienced a lot of bikes and have excellent taste.   Please thoroughly ride that thing for a few months and give us a report.   Iíve always been tempted by the Buells

From just the ride around the block in 1st and 2nd gear today I think this is going to be a fun bike.


(https://i.ibb.co/xXkBqyG/Buell1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xXkBqyG)



(https://i.ibb.co/QNCsN7Q/Buell2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QNCsN7Q)


Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Bulldog9 on March 28, 2021, 03:29:36 PM
I remember seeing this when they were first releasing it. Was very interested, but raising my family, so had to settle for a used Concours. Always said If I bought a Buell it would be a Ulysses.  Congrats, look forward to the ride reports.
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: sidecarnutz on March 28, 2021, 09:31:36 PM
I had an Ď06 Ulysses a few years ago.  I think the burned skin on my right inner thigh has finally healed.  Youíll find out ...

Pics or it didn't happen. LOL
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: EldoMike on March 28, 2021, 09:48:46 PM
Saw that bike listed on ADV...looked like a great deal...have fun!
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Motormike on March 29, 2021, 08:51:59 AM
The funniest review of a Buell Ulysses I ever read was one writer saying, "at idle, it shakes like a dog trying to shit a peach pit!"  Hilarious and accurate.  And I say that as an owner.
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: twodogs on March 29, 2021, 08:52:32 AM
I just sold my 08 xt  and they are great riding bikes that do run hot, but with overpants on it was barely noticeable, one thing to mention also is when servicing, the oil filter is right next to the oil pressure switch and is easy to snap off if your wrench slips, don't ask me how I know. Doh  :violent1: enjoy and ride safe.
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 29, 2021, 09:25:20 AM
I did get a small ride in this morning on some 2 lane backroads and its different. The torque is fun from idle to 6500ish RPM and anywhere in between. Just roll on/off the throttle and it pulls like a freight train. It is also deceptively fast. You feel the pull in your shoulders look down and realize you are going a lot faster than you think. The suspension is very nice as is the seat. Front brakes are a bit harsh (OP put new pads on so hopefully a bit of bedding and they mellow out). There were a few misses when cold but I think the fuel is fairly old so I'll circle back to that after a few tanks of fresh are run through to see if that even an issue. The handling is on another level it comfortable but transitions exceptionally smooth an with extreme precision. At 2000 RPM there isn't a woman on earth that wouldn't like to be astride the saddle as it vibrates so badly your vison is blurred but anywhere above or below that it smooths out. The exhaust is loud but no more loud than a few of my previous Ducati's.

Hopefully I can get out for a longer ride later today or tomorrow and really get familiar with this little devil.

Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: kingoffleece on March 29, 2021, 09:28:18 AM
Very nice.  Always liked that bike.  I too saw the ad for it and gave it a thought............ .....
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 30, 2021, 04:12:23 PM
Got some more miles in today. Rode up into the mountains and thing thing is interesting. Chuffing up the mountain at 3500 RPM in 4th gear powering in/out of corners a hoot. I still cannot get over the handling its nothing short of amazing. I've also found the front tire should last 100,000 miles as its not on the ground a lot and when it is its just skimming over the ground. But stick it in a corner and the short rake loads the front nicely for a very stable planted feel in the corners.

I've got about 100 miles on it so far and each mile is a bit more infectious. I cannot wait to take this bike down to visit friends in Johnson City TN and ride TOTD type roads until we puke.
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: BillinPA on March 31, 2021, 01:35:08 PM
I had a 2007 Ulysses. Absolutely loved it. Comfortable, fast, good handling.
I traded mine as I couldn't keep it even close to legal speed, what a ride!!!!

Badweatherbikers is your friend!!!
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 11, 2021, 05:57:16 AM
Well I've gotten a few tanks of fuel under my belt and observations:

1. This bike is fun. I mean a lot of FUN!
2. This bike is comfortable. I wish more manufacturers would study the Buell seat and ergo's.
3. This bike handles extremely well.
4. The suspension on this bike is very nice
5. This bike has shitty fuel range. 39 MPG and a 4.4gallon tank makes it in town hooligan bike not a adventure tourer. If I end up keeping it an aux fuel cell will be a must. 
6. The OEM short wind screen is useless. The Zero gravity replacment although taller is mostly useless. On the look out for a used Madstad
7. The Drummer exhaust is loud and I need to call about a DB killer to tone it down a bit

So far I am very happy with the purchase. Its a lot of bike for short money :thumb:

Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: egschade on April 11, 2021, 07:04:46 AM
Congrats on the Ully! Looks like you found a good one. Have always thought about one after a demo ride but never pulled the trigger. The couple I did look not look as well maintained or sorted as yours.
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Rough Edge racing on April 11, 2021, 11:56:11 AM
My friend has an 06 with the race ecm and exhaust...Interesti ng ride, lots of usable power. I'm 6 foot but didn't like the tall seat. Check the side stand bolts, my friend has his fall over, the bolts sheared off...
 I has a fine running tube frame Buell but never warmed up to the vision blurring rubber mount shakes below 2500 rpm. Doesn't  bother some riders...
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: steven c on April 12, 2021, 04:19:21 PM
 If you haven't already found Badweather here is some good info.
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142838/442053.html?1238017122
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: usedtobefast on April 12, 2021, 11:07:06 PM
Well I've gotten a few tanks of fuel under my belt and observations:


Don't you mean a few frames of fuel?   :grin: :laugh:

You are making me want one now. 
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 13, 2021, 06:48:23 AM
Don't you mean a few frames of fuel?   :grin: :laugh:

You are making me want one now.

I'd suggest than unless you like bikes with insane amounts of torque, nice suspension, great handling and very reasonably priced don't look at Buell.

Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: usedtobefast on April 13, 2021, 10:14:48 AM
I'd suggest than unless you like bikes with insane amounts of torque, nice suspension, great handling and very reasonably priced don't look at Buell.

Knowing near zero about Harley's, how is the motorcycle/transmissions/clutch for  reliability? 

I test drove a Buell Firebolt back when they were new ... but that was back in my Yamaha R1 and Ducati ST4S days, so I was like yuk/poo/egad after the test ride ... seemed like an OK chassis with a strange motor stuffed into it.
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 13, 2021, 04:10:19 PM
Knowing near zero about Harley's, how is the motorcycle/transmissions/clutch for  reliability? 

I test drove a Buell Firebolt back when they were new ... but that was back in my Yamaha R1 and Ducati ST4S days, so I was like yuk/poo/egad after the test ride ... seemed like an OK chassis with a strange motor stuffed into it.

I know even less about Harley. But from the reading I've done save for a crank issue on some of the early 2007's the 1203 Thunderstorm in stock or close to stock is a reliable platform. I also gather re-mapped or race ECU's, opening the air box and free'er flowing muffler is not detrimental to the reliability/longevity but it sure is to hard on fuel economy and go a long way in the fun factor.

Ok chassis with a strange motor stuffed into it is pretty spot on. They are a little like Guzzi. Ride one for 5 miles and think what is all the hubbub about or even what is this POS. Put some more time in the saddle and get to know the bike and your attitude changes from WTF to WOW.



 
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Motormike on April 13, 2021, 08:48:13 PM
I bought my 2009 Uly when they had their "going out of business" sale.  Since then I've put 25,000 miles on it.  Just took it out again today for the first time in a while.  I'd forgotten how well it handles.  I've really only had two problems with it over the years.  Had to replace the fuel pump early on.  There was a batch where once you got low on gas, the pump would run hot and draw enough current to blow the fuze.  Had to replace the neutral switch last year, and that's it.  I did put a new belt on it at 20,000 miles and kept the old one as a spare, just in case.  The paint-shaker idle gets old, but that's really the only complaint I have. 
(https://i.ibb.co/sqqM6pY/Buell-in-Pigeon-Mtn-valley.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sqqM6pY)
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Rough Edge racing on April 14, 2021, 05:21:46 AM
 Some Buells suffered from oil pump drive gear issues. The gear wear prematurely, the teeth shear off, the motor is trashed. This problem was supposedly fixed by 2004 with a bronze gear but still some bikes had issues...Did does not affect all bikes and how the bike is ridden and mileage is a factor...



Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Kev m on April 14, 2021, 06:41:26 AM
Some Buells suffered from oil pump drive gear issues. The gear wear prematurely, the teeth shear off, the motor is trashed. This problem was supposedly fixed by 2004 with a bronze gear but still some bikes had issues...Did does not affect all bikes and how the bike is ridden and mileage is a factor...

I seem to recall something similar on the early Rubbermount sportsters. Only a year or two, fine if not beat to death but a risk otherwise.

God I miss my ST3.... did I post this yet?

Only problem was the SuperTrapp was way too loud for me, I usually keep things stock and by that point no stock mufflers were to be had.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fExdkgWtOJY-S8SPpcdwsyTG1NHf6jwyq1uj_SvKa9UWhy7J-ng9HmJ-r5fbGMz7NS3FC-PaWTIvssVpqqG3KW195Q2VIbwXCumPVa7dwug2DVbe6WxtOgCD15a24rmp3GSOLKeJB4wuwPCkWeXca5Hw=w1602-h903-no?authuser=0)
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Rough Edge racing on April 14, 2021, 07:41:41 AM
 I sorta miss miss my hot rod tube frame...Chain drive conversion , lower gearing, well tuned, a fun ride....But I do prefer my 96 Monster 900...
(https://i.ibb.co/Xtry3sj/24180030435-e7660f9732-c-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Xtry3sj)
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Tom on April 14, 2021, 12:59:00 PM
I seem to recall something similar on the early Rubbermount sportsters. Only a year or two, fine if not beat to death but a risk otherwise.

God I miss my ST3.... did I post this yet?

Only problem was the SuperTrapp was way too loud for me, I usually keep things stock and by that point no stock mufflers were to be had.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fExdkgWtOJY-S8SPpcdwsyTG1NHf6jwyq1uj_SvKa9UWhy7J-ng9HmJ-r5fbGMz7NS3FC-PaWTIvssVpqqG3KW195Q2VIbwXCumPVa7dwug2DVbe6WxtOgCD15a24rmp3GSOLKeJB4wuwPCkWeXca5Hw=w1602-h903-no?authuser=0)

I still have my '97.  Best handling bike for mountain roads.....maybe the Jackal I use to own would compete with it. 
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Kev m on April 14, 2021, 01:07:36 PM
I still have my '97.  Best handling bike for mountain roads.....maybe the Jackal I use to own would compete with it.

Yup, but my moving to a land of flat and straight roads at sea level played a large part in deciding to get rid of it.
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Tom on April 14, 2021, 01:10:46 PM
I have the dark green, no saddle bags.  My only complaint would be the losing of bolts from vibration.  A given for me with the engine.  Just something you have to live with.  Normal maintenance to check bolts/nuts.   
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: decotriumph on April 14, 2021, 06:53:34 PM
I had a 2006 Ulysses for a while. Loved it. Another one in a list of many bikes I should have kept.

(https://i.ibb.co/2MTwrgp/Buell1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2MTwrgp)
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: steven c on April 14, 2021, 08:00:55 PM
 On the 2006 the 77 connector to the stator is a problem, there is an upgrade, when mine went and left me stuck on a dirt road in Mass (thanks again Sean for the rescue) I replaced it with  a couple of well pump connectors from Home Depot.
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Muzz on April 15, 2021, 04:03:08 AM
It certainly looks to be a pretty tidy bike you have got yourself Perazzi. :thumb:
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 15, 2021, 07:04:04 AM
It certainly looks to be a pretty tidy bike you have got yourself Perazzi. :thumb:

When the seller pulled into the driveway I could not believe how clean the bike was. It always hard to tell from pictures the actual condition. This was a pleasant surprise.

Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: bsanorton on April 15, 2021, 07:37:03 AM
Love me my Buell's, other then a fuel pump failure (that didn't leave me stranded), ECM quirks, they are pretty damn reliable.


(https://i.ibb.co/vwjdFy4/1995-Buell-S2-feb-2021-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vwjdFy4)

(https://i.ibb.co/vP76tLs/2000-Buell-X1-Millennium-582-of-800-new.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vP76tLs)

(https://i.ibb.co/rmCJM3W/2000-Buell-X1-RED-STRIPE-new.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rmCJM3W)

(https://i.ibb.co/ZKx0Gpb/2002-Buell-M2-new.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZKx0Gpb)
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 15, 2021, 09:21:09 AM
Love me my Buell's, other then fuel pump a failure (that didn't leave me stranded), ECM quirks, they are pretty damn reliable.


(https://i.ibb.co/vwjdFy4/1995-Buell-S2-feb-2021-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vwjdFy4)

(https://i.ibb.co/vP76tLs/2000-Buell-X1-Millennium-582-of-800-new.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vP76tLs)

(https://i.ibb.co/rmCJM3W/2000-Buell-X1-RED-STRIPE-new.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rmCJM3W)

(https://i.ibb.co/ZKx0Gpb/2002-Buell-M2-new.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZKx0Gpb)


I've got one more bike I'd like to sell then maybe I need to start looking for a Tuber. The red'in looks fantastic. The orange ain't bad either
Title: Re: Switching gears....Buell
Post by: bsanorton on April 15, 2021, 10:09:26 AM
I've got one more bike I'd like to sell then maybe I need to start looking for a Tuber. The red'in looks fantastic. The orange ain't bad either

Thank you, the red one is a numbered 'Red Racing tripe'. The Gray and Orange M2 is the last year of the tubers. The M2 is becoming the most comfortable for me as i get older because of the standard ergonomics. The gray X1 is a numbered 'Millennium'. The white one is a 95' S2 one of the last hand built...