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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #60 on: July 13, 2020, 08:52:05 AM »
Yeah, I knew!
Norge, but what about the V85? 
Have you not reached that stage with it yet?   :laugh:
Not yet but there’s nothing wrong at all with it. The V85 is “good at what it does” but not “lovely”.

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #61 on: July 13, 2020, 08:53:25 AM »
Buy tyre fitting lube, cheap from any auto place, makes world of difference
And remove valve before trying to seat bead, the valve is big restriction to flow
Thanks mate, I’ll follow that advice.. :bow: :thumb:

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #62 on: July 13, 2020, 05:02:52 PM »
Thanks mate, I’ll follow that advice.. :bow: :thumb:

Another thing I've found helpful on stubborn tires is to make sure the rim isn't pressing down on the tire as you try to inflate it, confusing I know but what I try to do is lift up the wheel while adding air, this seems to center the tire on the rim and less air escapes out of the sides thus allowing the tire to seat on the wheel bead.  Does work for me.  Oh and I use RU Glyde as a tire lubricant for mounting, found in local auto part stores here in the U.S. maybe they have similar down under.  This stuff also works as a rubber protectent as well. 

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #63 on: July 13, 2020, 06:14:56 PM »
Another thing I've found helpful on stubborn tires is to make sure the rim isn't pressing down on the tire as you try to inflate it, confusing I know but what I try to do is lift up the wheel while adding air, this seems to center the tire on the rim and less air escapes out of the sides thus allowing the tire to seat on the wheel bead.  Does work for me.  Oh and I use RU Glyde as a tire lubricant for mounting, found in local auto part stores here in the U.S. maybe they have similar down under.  This stuff also works as a rubber protectent as well.
Again thank you all for your input, I will take heed.
This front tyre almost closes together when off the rim and given that the rim is not very wide on the front, there is a consequently large gap when deflated.
Unlike the Norge rear, where the bead is pressing against the rim prior to inflation. It will be ok though, when I get back home, I’ll add the lube and use the truck compressor at work.. :thumb:

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #63 on: July 13, 2020, 06:14:56 PM »

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« Reply #64 on: July 13, 2020, 09:27:35 PM »
Interesting.  So in theory if you get a flat in the boondocks & inadvertently break a bead, you might become stranded despite having a low-volume 12v electric pump on board.

Makes sense really.  Which is possibly why the majority of dirt & "all-terrain" bikes (including the V85 of course) still use tubes.

Many ADV riders on Youtube recommend carrying a spare tube - for the largest wheel size on their bike - even on tubeless equipped bikes.  Thought it was just as a temporary fix for punctured tyre carcasses, but now it's a whole lot clearer to me:  a plain simple bicycle patch would fix just about any tread or sidewall puncture (but not a tear),  whereas that spare tube, even if jammed into a smaller diameter wheel, becomes a fix-all for everything but the worst case scenarios.
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #65 on: July 14, 2020, 01:20:11 AM »
Interesting.  So in theory if you get a flat in the boondocks & inadvertently break a bead, you might become stranded despite having a low-volume 12v electric pump on board.

Makes sense really.  Which is possibly why the majority of dirt & "all-terrain" bikes (including the V85 of course) still use tubes.

Many ADV riders on Youtube recommend carrying a spare tube - for the largest wheel size on their bike - even on tubeless equipped bikes.  Thought it was just as a temporary fix for punctured tyre carcasses, but now it's a whole lot clearer to me:  a plain simple bicycle patch would fix just about any tread or sidewall puncture (but not a tear),  whereas that spare tube, even if jammed into a smaller diameter wheel, becomes a fix-all for everything but the worst case scenarios.
That thought actually crossed my mind.
If that happens, I’ll install a tube.

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« Reply #66 on: July 14, 2020, 09:18:32 AM »
Not yet but there’s nothing wrong at all with it. The V85 is “good at what it does” but not “lovely”.
Do you think that will come with a bit more time, like all Guzzis tend to need for us to really 'Gel' with them?
If not, what do you feel is 'lacking', is it just too 'modern' maybe?
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #67 on: July 15, 2020, 12:39:33 AM »
Clearly I’ve left the impression that I don’t much like my V85, that’s not true at all..
It’s just that I love my Norge so much, I have to have a reason NOT to get it out instead of the trail bike. That reason will certainly raise it’s head when I head off to the Kimberley or Cape York etc...
The ‘85 is not “better” than the Norge anywhere on a sealed surface, but when doing off road stuff the thing/s that the trail bike can do better than the “nice one”, just happen to be rather pivotal.
Fair to say though, the cruise control on the ‘85 is really very good.
I will also admit that these sort of memories cast a pretty big shadow that the V85 has to exist in..


Now that’s not (only) just a display of self indulgent memory jogging, but also to indicate what the history of my Norge is compared to the V85..
If the roles were reversed, then I’d probably be extolling the virtues of the ‘85 versus the Norge.
It’s a first world problem I’ll admit and I would not sell the V85 if someone offered me what I have in it $$$ wise.
Every time I ride the Norge after a long time on the V85, the impression is the velvety feel and very long legs....
(Now there’s a metaphor if ever there was...)
The V85 feels like a temporary dalliance, the Norge feels like home...

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #68 on: July 15, 2020, 10:14:09 AM »
(Tongue in cheek)


In other words...you hate the V85, and are just prolonging the relationship because you're afraid to break up and offend the V85's feelings at this point given how much you've professed your love for it.  All the farkling in the world won't change it's performance characteristics...T he breakup will happen eventually, just depends on how many issues surface in the meantime!

Perhaps it's better to try and not invest any emotions into the V85 and just treat it like a utility tool...practical, but unemotional, completely different from the Norge, which we all understand is really an extension of the soul!

...exiting stage left now.   :thumb: :thumb:
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #69 on: July 15, 2020, 02:48:33 PM »
(Tongue in cheek)


In other words...you hate the V85, and are just prolonging the relationship because you're afraid to break up and offend the V85's feelings at this point given how much you've professed your love for it.  All the farkling in the world won't change it's performance characteristics...T he breakup will happen eventually, just depends on how many issues surface in the meantime!

Perhaps it's better to try and not invest any emotions into the V85 and just treat it like a utility tool...practical, but unemotional, completely different from the Norge, which we all understand is really an extension of the soul!

...exiting stage left now.   :thumb: :thumb:
You’re right about one thing, they are other words.
But not mine..
Again tongue in cheek,,
The V85 is like the illicit affair outside your relationship, happy to use it and a new set of clothes won’t go astray, but the facelift makes me not need to put a paper bag over her head...
There is something good happening when aboard the V85, but like the old saying goes...?
Whatever you do...DON’T LOOK DOWN...!
I just think she could be better looking as well as useful.
Also mate, I think you are attempting to bait me not not a bad job either, (clearly you are a masterbaiter..)
The V85 will NEVER be sold and I’ll have a quiet 10 grand on that.. :thumb: :thumb:..(exiting stage right)  :popcorn:
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #70 on: July 15, 2020, 05:34:30 PM »
She's not a 1 bagger at all! :thumb: :thumb:
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #71 on: July 17, 2020, 05:39:24 AM »
Home at last after a week away..
I collected the nickel plated engine bars and rear rack. On they go tomorrow along with the wheels.

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #72 on: July 18, 2020, 05:01:34 AM »
 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Very good! I think if Guzzi releases such a version, they could even attract more buyers.

Now we need a "pretty" photo in a decent environment.
Of course we guys all love our garage but maybe somwhere outside in the green.  :wink:  :popcorn:
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #73 on: July 18, 2020, 05:18:51 AM »
Easy big guy...!
It’s 8 pm here, raining and black as a dog’s guts. Tomorrow is a tidy up and some “glamour shots”.

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #74 on: July 18, 2020, 05:42:24 AM »
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« Reply #75 on: July 18, 2020, 11:45:40 AM »
Clearly I’ve left the impression that I don’t much like my V85, that’s not true at all . . .
No no, wasn't thinking that at all.
I'm sure it'll grow on you like the Norge, with more miles (and smiles) under it's Tyres.

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #76 on: July 18, 2020, 06:59:48 PM »
Done...!


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« Reply #77 on: July 18, 2020, 07:09:19 PM »
BELLISIMO !! :drool:
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #78 on: July 18, 2020, 07:50:07 PM »
And those outdoors glamour shots..
https://youtu.be/FwzEvQ6ndHA











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« Reply #79 on: July 18, 2020, 09:47:53 PM »
Wow!  That turned out great Huzo!
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #80 on: July 18, 2020, 09:57:33 PM »
Looks great, but you should be in at least one of those pics.  :laugh:

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« Reply #81 on: July 18, 2020, 11:22:52 PM »
And those outdoors glamour shots..
https://youtu.be/FwzEvQ6ndHA




Huzo, that looks great.   :thumb:
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #82 on: July 19, 2020, 12:56:57 AM »
Looks great, but you should be in at least one of those pics.  :laugh:

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« Reply #84 on: July 19, 2020, 01:40:44 AM »
Huzo, that looks great.   :thumb:
A little way to go, but good so far...
Thank you.

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« Reply #85 on: July 19, 2020, 02:28:05 AM »
Impressive!
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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #86 on: July 19, 2020, 02:35:21 AM »
If I do anything else, it will be the castings that mount the front calipers at the base of the forks..
They will be the same colour as the swingarm, to give visual balance to the contrast between black and silver.
Like in Mark’s photoshop image.



An Akropovic or Termignoni muffler would be good.
The jury is out on this one, but the framework that mounts the instrument cluster might be nice in silver also, like the GS BMW’s....(not sure about that one though).

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #87 on: July 19, 2020, 02:40:48 AM »
You do not have time for more mods now because you will need your time to keep the wheels clean.  :evil:
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« Reply #88 on: July 19, 2020, 02:54:29 AM »
You do not have time for more mods now because you will need your time to keep the wheels clean.  :evil:
That’s what they said about my Norge ones.

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Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #89 on: July 19, 2020, 03:17:51 AM »
Looks great,Pete, magnificent job. Hope to see it in the flesh when the plague ends.

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