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Was the model 200 the predecessor of the 220 (which is the one I have)? Think I paid something like $800 quite a few years ago for mine (new). Agree that it's a terrific machine!
I like it. I might try it with hose clamps in the future.What color zip ties work best?
A ratchet tie down works much more efficiently and much stronger.
Two different concepts Dan , we aren't wrapping the circumference of the tyre with zip ties , they are going around the carcass to expand the inner circumference . I have learned that stretching the tyre this way also helps it seat if yo keep it warm . Dusty
Actually no , read the rest of the thread . Dusty
Actually yes! Pressure is what pushes the tire bead outward and over the bead of the rim. If the tire bead is not being pushed over the wheel bead at a given pressure there is not enough pressure to push it over.
Dude , the tyre was 1/4 inch too small , you are being a bit to cocksure here . Dusty
let me rephrase that . Would you bet a hundred bucks that putting oh say 200 PSI to the tyre would 100% for certain seat it , then would bet that the structural integrity of the tyre would not be compromised by being permanently stretched over the rim ? Dusty
I have no idea if 200# or 137.6# or 54.4# is the magic number. But yes I'd wager a bet that more pressure than has been used and did not set the bead will set the bead. Bring you tire and $100 bill along. I have an air compressor and beer. I can also prepare dinner if you like. Any food allergies or dislikes?
You are willing to risk another member's safety to prove a point then ? Think about this for a moment , because that is what I am reading . Here's the deal , the OP is ultimately the person who must make the decision . you do you , let him make his choice , fair enough ? Dusty
Well there's a spin I didn't anticipate. You made the bet I'm willing to follow through. As for safety you or anyone else for that matter safety will not be jeopardized. If you like you can put on a flack jacket, goggles, helmet and stand behind bullet proof glass if you want to bring all that stuff along or even vacate the property while I inflate the tire. I'm not promoting doing anything unsafe although anytime you are working with pressurized items there is a risk factor. Be that as it may sometime it takes more than 20 or 30 pounds of pressure to "set" a bead. Clip on the chuck, crank up the pressure a bit and stand back. I got that hundy waiting whenever you are ready.
I've used air pressures up to 90# before. Most times a bead will be set at lower air pressure. DEPENDS on the tire maker and how old the tire is. The race of the people making the tires doesn't make a difference. It's the company making them. In the past I've different results from American, German and Italian.
in the interests of returning this thread to the polite world of real world useful information, can we all admit to using a hacksaw or a chainsaw to remove a stubborn tire when we hit the wall? "Works a treat!" as the Brits like to say! Ox acetylene torch? Now that's a bit extreme!
The incident I’m going to tell y’all about is in no way pro or con to anyone’s believes on the subject of air pressure to get a tire to “pop out” or seat. I worked at a tire shop for several years when I was in high school. I’ll never forget an incident that occurred at the shop one day when a buddy and fellow worker was attempting to get a tire to seat, or pop out, if preferred term, on a Craiger aluminum mag wheel, on a 1967 Ford Mustang fastback. Tommy, the guys name, cautiously kept adding a couple pounds at a time. I’ll never forget the number when the wheel failed. We were all standing back and offering moral support when it happened at 86 LBs. when it blew. Tommy hit the floor like he had been shot and when he stood up it was immediately obvious he was hurt. Long story short, he suffered permanent damage to his face, left eye and hearing loss in both ears. I guess I’m trying to tell anyone who is willing to listen this. Any time you have to use over 50-60 pounds of air to seat a tire, start using caution and take every preventing measurement possible. A tire cage preferably and position your hand out of harms way. Just an olds guys over caution maybe.
Amen. and the tire does not have to leave the rim to be dangerous. I have a friend who almost got killed when the bottom of the ATV tire he was changing popped out sending the tire and wheel upwards like a rocket. After almost decapitating him, the tire/wheel assembly bounced off the ceiling of his garage.We used to sometimes wrap chains around the split rim/tire in case the locking ring came off. The chain trick would not have helped my friend. The chain merely would have been part of the tire/wheel projectile.
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