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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jorg66 on May 14, 2022, 06:54:42 AM
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After a couple attempts to fix the main seal on our V7 III Carbon Dark .Guzzi agreed to give it a new Motor,hmmm .That only took 4 Month to get here [MB/Cdn.] Now Dealer opened the Crate and ,.........Wrong Engine !!! Great :sad:
It is for a V 85 TT.
That Bike been almost longer in the Shop than in our Garage . Time to trade .
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That sounds like a sweet upgrade to me!
-AJ
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@AJ, that's what i said, 'couple cuts ,couple brackets and of we go' .
Yea, Dealer is considering Bike swap ,perhaps V7 /850.
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If it fits, that's a deal.
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It doesn't :sad:
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Do you know for sure if was a Piaggio or dealership screw up ? Just kinda curious .
Did you get a look at the dealerships order ( or warranty ) form ? Peter
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No , but it might improve the chance that the next one is correct ! Peter
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Did you ask the dealer what it would take to make it fit? A V7 with a V85 motor would be totally bad ass.
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Yeah I'm now fascinated by the possibilities.
What won't fit?
AFAIK the block is literally the same. So what is different and can things be swapped to make it work?
Could be cool.
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Yeah I'm now fascinated by the possibilities.
What won't fit?
AFAIK the block is literally the same. So what is different and can things be swapped to make it work?
Could be cool.
YES! That would be awesome......
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Well ,I'm ~300 km away from the Dealer, and currently don't have much time on hand to go back and forth [Work ].
I was told that a couple holes on Frame and Block don't fit. Cause the Motor that was send is for the V85 TT.
Anyhow ,valid point to ask ,"if perhaps a screw took place on the Dealer side". For right now waiting on response from Guzzi/ Piaggio.
Been that long ,......... :grin:
And perhaps after all this ,another V7 will happen ,... V7 850 [the real thing] :wink:
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Well ,I'm ~300 km away from the Dealer, and currently don't have much time on hand to go back and forth [Work ].
I was told that a couple holes on Frame and Block don't fit. Cause the Motor that was send is for the V85 TT.
Anyhow ,valid point to ask ,"if perhaps a screw took place on the Dealer side". For right now waiting on response from Guzzi/ Piaggio.
Been that long ,......... :grin:
And perhaps after all this ,another V7 will happen ,... V7 850 [the real thing] :wink:
If the block is the same…?
It can’t NOT fit….Can it ?
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I'm sure it's just a long block. No injectors, throttle body, sensors etc. So, no, it's not going to be viable.
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Yeah I'm now fascinated by the possibilities.
What won't fit?
AFAIK the block is literally the same. So what is different and can things be swapped to make it work?
Could be cool.
also ECU and accessories.
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also ECU and accessories.
Sure, that goes without saying. But what was sent, a long or short block?
I'm kinda thinking they would send the entire long block so it's add the electrical and fuel components and go.
Maybe the V7III ECM is going to need a custom tune to run right considering differences in the valve train. Or maybe there are other electrical component differences in wiring etc that might complicate it.
I dunno, but I'm curious.
Still I'd think it would be doable... maybe not something the dealer wants to take the headache or tackling but doable.
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I think you can rest assured , it's not gonna happen . Try explaining those tasks ( and modifications) to the warranty department . Peter
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I said it would be interesting, not likely....
And in the end you'd have Frankenbike that is furthered devalued as its not factory.
Yeah so a used Guzzi goes from a value of $1 to $0.50.
Big deal.
:boozing:
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@AJ, that's what i said, 'couple cuts ,couple brackets and of we go' .
Yea, Dealer is considering Bike swap ,perhaps V7 /850.
Go for the V7 850. You won't be sorry.
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Yup ,you are all right , not going to fit ,for all the reasons mentioned.
also figured ,since they already have a Motor for it ,why not a V85 TT . Just get the Frame now , Lol
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Yeah I'm now fascinated by the possibilities.
What won't fit?
AFAIK the block is literally the same. So what is different and can things be swapped to make it work?
Could be cool.
The engine case isn't the same - different frame mounting points.
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The engine case isn't the same - different frame mounting points.
When Cam and I went to Hamlins to ride the first demo V85s, Jim pointed to the hole in the block (he was performing the break in service for one of the fleet bikes at the time) and said it was there because it is the same block and THAT is the primary mounting point when it is installed in a V7. If he was correct it would stand to reason the V85 and V7 might have different mounting points on the frame, but that the mounting points are there and available in the block. I recall thinking the hole looked kinda funny on the V85, but it made sense.
I can neither confirm or deny the facts past that.
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But it also narrows down potential buyers form one in a hundred million to one in a gazillion :shocked:
I dunno.... there are guys paying Todd at Guzzitech good money for big bore conversions and performance upgrades for their V7s. V85 motor would be the hot ticket . This could end up being one of those legendary guzzi's like Darth Quota or the Aero Lario. :grin: