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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #120 on: November 07, 2017, 10:08:14 AM »
I like that!
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #121 on: November 07, 2017, 10:09:19 AM »
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #122 on: November 07, 2017, 10:09:22 AM »
No information on the motor and the only change seems to be to the shape of the rocker covers so if there is anything it looks like it's just bearing out what was already evident in the castings of the head and rocker supports. Central plug and a couple of extra valves per cylinder.....zzzzzz zzzzz........

Minor improvements to other stuff, totally inadequate rear suspension and no reactive drive. Sorry, socks still firmly attatched to feet.

It's also, as they say, a 'Concept' so chances are it's the only one ever 'Built'. I wouldn't be holding your breath waiting for one to pop up in a showroom near you. Oh well. It achieved its aim. It got people talking and made fantasists all moist.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #123 on: November 07, 2017, 10:12:30 AM »
If it's around 400 lbs, they'd have my attention, but I have a feeling it won't be.

that's a bit unrealistic don't ya think?? Even the current V7 III's tip the scale well beyond that. I'm thinking 480-490lbs is more realistic.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #124 on: November 07, 2017, 10:18:56 AM »
80 HP smallblock!
Time for the Nuevo 850 LeMans!     :food:

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #125 on: November 07, 2017, 10:19:02 AM »
that's a bit unrealistic don't ya think?? Even the current V7 III's tip the scale well beyond that. I'm thinking 480-490lbs is more realistic.

Yes, I do think it's unrealistic, which is why I expressed doubt about my 400 lb. hope.  But with bikes like the KTM 690 enduro coming in at 355 wet, it would take the the Guzzi being 400 or less to get my attention.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #126 on: November 07, 2017, 10:21:11 AM »
Yes, I do think it's unrealistic, which is why I expressed doubt about my 400 lb. hope.  But with bikes like the KTM 690 enduro coming in at 355 wet, it would take the the Guzzi being 400 or less to get my attention.

The KTM 690 is a thumper.    If it were a twin, it'd be 50# heavier.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #127 on: November 07, 2017, 10:21:47 AM »
They talk of autumn 2018 for the first bike derived from the concept to arrive at the dealers.
There will be other models with the same engine.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #128 on: November 07, 2017, 10:22:25 AM »
Oh yes... time to soften the wifey and buy one. I like it!
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #129 on: November 07, 2017, 10:23:30 AM »
New V7III colors:
http://eicma.piaggiogroup.com/en_EN/moto-guzzi/moto-guzzi-V7III/

I like the red heads on this one.   And, I also like the return to the full sized side covers, only, now in all-metal, instead of plastic.


And, look, gloss paint with cast alloy wheels on the new Milano version.


« Last Edit: November 07, 2017, 10:27:20 AM by jas67 »
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #130 on: November 07, 2017, 10:27:24 AM »
I am disappointed, promises of a new motor or concept at EICMA  and we got a pimped-up Stornello!
For many Moto Guzzi is badly in need of something between the small block and the 1400 series bikes.

Yeah, me too. I've read of a 5V with liquid cooled heads.. and.. nothing.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #131 on: November 07, 2017, 10:27:51 AM »
As a Stornello owner (and also a Super Tenere ADV rider), I️’m mildly intrigued. But to my eye, it looks like a mashup of Yammi’s XSR 900 in bumble bee livery with the 2016 Guzzi Stornello. Not exactly an “integrated” look...but that may be due to the McDonalds color way—yellow, red and white!


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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #132 on: November 07, 2017, 10:41:25 AM »
I like it!

That appears to be the baby Stelvio some have been clamoring about. Like someone else said, time to pony up. It'll be interesting to see the stats on this bike, weight, fuel capacity, etc.

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+10...It's creating a good buzz and getting people talking.  Some folks here are so wrapped up in the technical aspects they overlook the emotional tug, it's not ALWAYS about how many valves, where the shock is angled, it can also be if it appeals to you...all we really need is that they sell a bunch of these to keep the company afloat and continuing to develop new items over time.  If this gets folks more interested in the brand, sells reasonably well and is more than decently functional, (since when has Guzzi aimed to be at the top of the stack in any motorcycle class in the last 20 years anyway?).   

I like the return to the red frame, it would be nice if they had other options besides the yellow, but that's easily fixed if one really wanted to.

Nice to see Guzzi has generated some good publicity here and some buzz around the brand.

Now for those whose socks haven't been knocked off, maybe you should try wearing sandals for a bit!   :thumb: :thumb:
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #133 on: November 07, 2017, 10:47:52 AM »
The KTM 690 is a thumper.    If it were a twin, it'd be 50# heavier.

OK, so we're back to my goal of 400 lbs., which is right around the 397 lb (wet) Yamaha FZ-07 that I'm seriously interested in.  :)
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #135 on: November 07, 2017, 10:51:14 AM »
I like it. But I would love to hear more about this "new" engine. 80hp is not bad! That brings in the bit of extra horses that everybody is talking about. Now they just have to mount that in the other models.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #136 on: November 07, 2017, 10:51:46 AM »
I can't find anything I don't like about that V7 Milano above![emoji16]


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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #137 on: November 07, 2017, 11:06:40 AM »
more info
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2017/11/moto-guzzi-displays-striking-concept-v85-at-eicma/

I looks like Piaggio has actually been listening to the requests for a mid-weight Stelvio.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #138 on: November 07, 2017, 11:14:33 AM »
80 HP smallblock!
Time for the Nuevo 850 LeMans!     :food:

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #139 on: November 07, 2017, 11:16:44 AM »
Keep dreaming LOL

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #140 on: November 07, 2017, 11:20:36 AM »
Sexy spoke nipples! It looks like it may have tubeless wire-spoke wheels.



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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #142 on: November 07, 2017, 11:35:58 AM »
I can't find anything I don't like about that V7 Milano above![emoji16]


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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #143 on: November 07, 2017, 12:04:15 PM »
 :whip2:
Sexy spoke nipples! It looks like it may have tubeless wire-spoke wheels.




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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #144 on: November 07, 2017, 12:07:37 PM »
Those ought to be fun to fix when the o-rings die.  :tongue:
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #145 on: November 07, 2017, 12:08:55 PM »
I won't go into numbers & HP as most other people already covered it and will do a lot better job than I do LOL...

V85:

in short, I love the scheme!...

I will be honest, I was not 100% sold on the look when I first see it, but the more I look at it, the more it grows on me.

  • Love the dual headlight set up without going Bug eyed like how BMW did (yes I hated that look)
  • Not a huge fan of the beak but I can see why as it is aiming as an off road enduro huge dirt bike. Just I don't find it as intrusive as how BMW and KLR are...
    Maybe the guzzi headlight is playing the tricks on me? :thumb:
  • That tank looks HUGE...yet plastic look. I am SERIOUSLY HOPING the main tank is still metal just with plastic wrapping around it...I do not want more plastic tank swelling...again...
  • I don't know why, but that final shaft cover looks different to me...
  • well that passenger seat looks awfully small...Guess Ze wife won't be able to come with me on an off road camping trip then  :evil:
    but I guess this is aimed at off road enduro rider crowd... Hopefully it has not trade off too much of its touring ability with the off road

Overall, I like it  :thumb:
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #146 on: November 07, 2017, 12:12:13 PM »
Those ought to be fun to fix when the o-rings die.  :tongue:

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #147 on: November 07, 2017, 12:24:49 PM »
Good use of the V9 Engine, no apparently not it is the new motor, and as said previously rumours of ari/water cooled engine don't seem correct from the pics, looks to me like they looked at the BMW R9T GS and decided they could build a good facsimile, not sure it's a recipe for success copying models built by other manufacturers, but as a small niche player I guess creaming of some sales from the R9T could sell the numbers they need Tthey'll be happy.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #148 on: November 07, 2017, 12:27:53 PM »
bottom line, another revised small block.  Good deal.  OK

No new 1100-1200 performer here as hinted.

Have to say, this is a bust.  It is.  We know it.  Sorry to say it.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #149 on: November 07, 2017, 12:31:21 PM »
Yeah, me too. I've read of a 5V with liquid cooled heads.. and.. nothing.

From what I've read the engine in this bike is a V9 engine not the new one that wasn't ready for the show.  Still reading the Moto Guzzi page for the V85 it does say the new engine is air cooled.  http://discoverv85.motoguzzi.com/en/

I do like it and will take a look at it if/when it hits the showrooms (of which I'm not sure there are any within 200 miles of me but whatever)

 

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