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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2550 on: May 28, 2021, 02:35:37 PM »
congrats, i hope to see you around the area.  i went to the kansas wild guzzi rally.  i packed 5 pairs of gloves, 2 pairs of shoes in addition to my boots, full rain gear, a spare pair of pants, changes of underwear, a hoodie, cigars, booze, water, snacks and still had room left.  camping gear in dry bag on seat.  then there is the magic button (cruise).  you will love it
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2551 on: May 28, 2021, 03:56:08 PM »
congrats, i hope to see you around the area.  i went to the kansas wild guzzi rally.  i packed 5 pairs of gloves, 2 pairs of shoes in addition to my boots, full rain gear, a spare pair of pants, changes of underwear, a hoodie, cigars, booze, water, snacks and still had room left.  camping gear in dry bag on seat.  then there is the magic button (cruise).  you will love it

Thats a lot of gloves!

Yeah. Testing cruise really blew me away. The side case are almost double what I'm used to.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2552 on: May 28, 2021, 05:09:20 PM »
battery powered warm gloves - used;
regular thinsulate cold weather gloves - used;
cowhide medium gloves - used;
perforated summer gloves - used;
waterproof rain gloves - used.

Travelling in May is never predictable.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2553 on: May 29, 2021, 04:58:31 AM »
Hey blu guzz,

Thanks again for letting us pick your brain in Cedar Vale, Doug bought a Centenario last week.  Sloan's was the first dealership to call back with a '21 in stock, so away we went.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2553 on: May 29, 2021, 04:58:31 AM »

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2554 on: May 29, 2021, 05:25:57 AM »
I like the red frame but I would also like to see the V85 photoshopped in the colors described above by Huzo.
Like this one..?


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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2555 on: May 29, 2021, 06:25:07 AM »
Mine has a red frame with grey bodywork. Jim Hamlin put it together for me when he couldn't source a base model but had an Adventure available along with the grey bits.



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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2556 on: May 29, 2021, 06:44:50 AM »
greer:  nice to put names to faces with you and doug.  i am going to the virginia rally with my son later in june at willville.  i hope i don't have to pack cold weather gear again.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2557 on: May 29, 2021, 08:31:19 AM »
Congrats on the new bike.  I have had mine for two years and loved it so much I bought the Centenario (also from Cadre).  Here is when I brought it home and before I started making my usual modifications.





The yellow, white, red color was flashy but I think I will like this, more subdued version, even more.  Great all around bike in any color though.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2558 on: May 29, 2021, 09:23:47 AM »
Congrats on the new bike.  I have had mine for two years and loved it so much I bought the Centenario (also from Cadre).  Here is when I brought it home and before I started making my usual modifications.





The yellow, white, red color was flashy but I think I will like this, more subdued version, even more.  Great all around bike in any color though.

Sharp!

I bought my Adventure with the plan of having the panels and fender painted. While the color has grown on me I woke up this morning thinking about colors that would work with my red frame.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2559 on: May 29, 2021, 10:51:08 AM »
I think the 2021 black bodywork would look great with the red frame. That may be the route I go if I get tired of the white/red.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2560 on: May 30, 2021, 06:01:21 AM »
Thanks everybody, Doug has been all smiles since buying the bike.  We put in a 400 mile day Thursday and his only complaint was the stout throttle spring.  He's been studying the remedy thread and has decided to start with an o-ring at the end of the grip to see if a bit of friction will help.  Like some of you have said, it's not so much twisting the throttle but holding it. 

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2561 on: May 30, 2021, 06:41:54 AM »
I think the 2021 black bodywork would look great with the red frame. That may be the route I go if I get tired of the white/red.

Definitely agree. Going to stop by and see how much custom paint would be. Otherwise might order the nero etna parts.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2562 on: May 30, 2021, 08:45:38 AM »
A crappy photo hack, but you get the idea.



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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2563 on: June 01, 2021, 08:06:02 AM »
A crappy photo hack, but you get the idea.





I think it looks good. I started out dead set on changing my color scheme but mine continues to grow on me. Not to mention that money could be better spent on other farkles.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2564 on: June 01, 2021, 11:56:09 PM »
Congrats on the new bike.  I have had mine for two years and loved it so much I bought the Centenario (also from Cadre).  Here is when I brought it home and before I started making my usual modifications.





The yellow, white, red color was flashy but I think I will like this, more subdued version, even more.  Great all around bike in any color though.
How do you like the updated torque delivery?
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2565 on: June 02, 2021, 06:58:54 AM »
How do you like the updated torque delivery?

I have only limited riding time on the new bike as I am installing a lot of modifications right now.  So far it seemed to have better punch off the bottom, but I will report back with more after this weekend.  I am doing wiring today.  I just texted Enzo to ask if there is, and the location of, a blank connector for switched power somewhere in the harness.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2566 on: June 02, 2021, 09:08:34 AM »
I have only limited riding time on the new bike as I am installing a lot of modifications right now.  So far it seemed to have better punch off the bottom, but I will report back with more after this weekend.  I am doing wiring today.  I just texted Enzo to ask if there is, and the location of, a blank connector for switched power somewhere in the harness.

There is a switched connector that's used for the optional USB port under the seat. A lot of guys (me) use it to power the lead to their GPS.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2567 on: June 02, 2021, 10:25:42 AM »
That's what I did on my other V85 but I couldn't see it.  I removed the battery and it was stuffed way down underneath so all is well now.  Thanks.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2568 on: June 02, 2021, 10:47:00 AM »
I’d be interested in the new ‘sport’ and ‘custom’ riding modes added for 2021. I’ve picked up a barely used 2020 and the only thing I’m having any issue with is the relatively soft throttle response.  In some situations, for example blipping the throttle for downshifts, it takes an unusual amount of twist grip movement in an unloaded situation where a cable throttle would be highly sensitive to small movements of the throttle.  I’ll get used to it, and really like the bike to ride otherwise: it rides like a slightly heavier cross between an R100GS and a Guzzi, with some ‘modern’ electronics added, for better or worse.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2569 on: June 02, 2021, 11:56:06 AM »
I’d be interested in the new ‘sport’ and ‘custom’ riding modes added for 2021. I’ve picked up a barely used 2020 and the only thing I’m having any issue with is the relatively soft throttle response.  In some situations, for example blipping the throttle for downshifts, it takes an unusual amount of twist grip movement in an unloaded situation where a cable throttle would be highly sensitive to small movements of the throttle.  I’ll get used to it, and really like the bike to ride otherwise: it rides like a slightly heavier cross between an R100GS and a Guzzi, with some ‘modern’ electronics added, for better or worse.

The was a new fuel map sometime in 2020. Might be worth seeing if a dealer can check/update your ECU? My 2020 was a late model and had whatever updates and I do not experience really any fueling issues besides crappy MPG on the highway.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2570 on: June 02, 2021, 12:21:54 PM »
Just to be clear, I am not describing a fueling issue.  What I’m describing is the relationship between twist grip rotation and throttle plate movement in Road mode.  Many injected bikes with large throttle bodies and cable throttles feel a bit jumpy or oversensitive to the throttle control, particularly at low speed and I suppose in response to this they softened the throttle sensitivity in ‘throttle by wire’ tuning on the V85TT.  I think they went a bit too far, and note that this is a manually programmable parameter in ‘Custom’ mode on the 2021 bikes.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2571 on: June 02, 2021, 04:12:33 PM »
Just to be clear, I am not describing a fueling issue.  What I’m describing is the relationship between twist grip rotation and throttle plate movement in Road mode.  Many injected bikes with large throttle bodies and cable throttles feel a bit jumpy or oversensitive to the throttle control, particularly at low speed and I suppose in response to this they softened the throttle sensitivity in ‘throttle by wire’ tuning on the V85TT.  I think they went a bit too far, and note that this is a manually programmable parameter in ‘Custom’ mode on the 2021 bikes.

You could change the tables in the 2020 MY ECU if you used the 7SM reader/writer and TunerPro to edit the file in the ECU and have similar results. The tools needed are on the GuzziDiag webpage.

I looked at the first and second revision of the software (haven't seen the third) and the throttle tables appear to be the same for all 3 modes. That backs up what I've experienced as well, which is that I can't really tell any difference in the performance in the different riding modes under the same (ideal) conditions.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2572 on: June 02, 2021, 05:13:48 PM »
Good info, thanks.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2573 on: June 02, 2021, 06:51:14 PM »
Added some Giant Loop soft saddlebags to my 2020 V85TT Adventure. Nice stuff and fit great on the stock racks.








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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2574 on: June 02, 2021, 08:29:49 PM »
Just to be clear, I am not describing a fueling issue.  What I’m describing is the relationship between twist grip rotation and throttle plate movement in Road mode.  Many injected bikes with large throttle bodies and cable throttles feel a bit jumpy or oversensitive to the throttle control, particularly at low speed and I suppose in response to this they softened the throttle sensitivity in ‘throttle by wire’ tuning on the V85TT.  I think they went a bit too far, and note that this is a manually programmable parameter in ‘Custom’ mode on the 2021 bikes.

I agree that the rotation/travel is a bit much. I find myself having to reposition my hand on the throttle if I don't grab enough when taking off from a stop. Using the Throttle Rocker reminds me to do that.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2575 on: June 02, 2021, 08:59:20 PM »
I agree that the rotation/travel is a bit much. I find myself having to reposition my hand on the throttle if I don't grab enough when taking off from a stop. Using the Throttle Rocker reminds me to do that.
I’m not trying to belittle your statement egschade, but really...?
It’s 90 degrees from fully closed to fully open..(or close to it).
Is it because the throttle is too heavy, that you wish the range was less ? :popcorn:

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2576 on: June 02, 2021, 09:29:54 PM »
I’m not trying to belittle your statement egschade, but really...?
It’s 90 degrees from fully closed to fully open..(or close to it).
Is it because the throttle is too heavy, that you wish the range was less ? :popcorn:

 I would think that on a fly by wire system one could wire up a momentary toggle switch if so desired and have a true on/off throttle.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2577 on: June 02, 2021, 09:39:28 PM »
I would think that on a fly by wire system one could wire up a momentary toggle switch if so desired.
I actually don’t follow the suggestion Moto.

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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2578 on: June 02, 2021, 10:09:04 PM »
Huzo's method for reducing the throttle spring rate makes a marked improvement.  I am glad I did it.
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Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #2579 on: June 02, 2021, 10:49:24 PM »
It’s 90 degrees from fully closed to fully open..(or close to it).
Is it because the throttle is too heavy, that you wish the range was less ? :popcorn:

I think you’re missing the point: the throttle sensitivity is not constant across that 90 degrees of movement.  The issue as I notice it is that when I’m braking hard with right hand, throttle closed, and simultaneously downshifting, it is not easy to blip the throttle for downshifts using the same hand.  This is because when nearly closed the twist grip needs to rotated I’d guess 2 or 3 times as far to raise the engine RPM as it would have to be with a cable throttle.  That lack of sensitivity is apparently programmed out at higher power settings, throttle by wire allows software to produce an effect analogous to having an exaggerated snail cam on the throttle drum of a cable throttle.

I know throttle sensitivity can be reprogrammed in 2021 ‘custom’ mode (because Guzzi literature says so) but I’m also curious whether the new ‘sport’ mode has already done what I’m suggesting when compared to ‘road’ mode.
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