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Offline Triple Jim

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Re: V-twin (Guzzi) vs Flat-twin (BMW)
« Reply #150 on: October 05, 2016, 10:48:49 AM »
Wait,  I can think of one possible exception and the is the KTM RC8.  I never got to rev it but it was salty on the bottom and mid.  So I guess that demonstrates your point Jim.  I'd forgotten about that one.

I don't doubt your experiences at all.  I'm just saying that the torque curve is the way it is by design, and has less to do with the number of cylinders in the engine than popular belief would say.
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Re: V-twin (Guzzi) vs Flat-twin (BMW)
« Reply #151 on: October 05, 2016, 10:57:32 AM »
Riding twins vs 4 cyl bikes, I've found the torque curve to be broader on 4 cyl engines.

I know that runs counter to what most people believe.  My 4 cyl Suzuki can idle off clutch and pull solidly to 11k rpms and pick up power 4k when the jets kick in.

Twins seem to be more limited in torque range.  Cruisers have low end power and top out at 5k.  Guzzi seem to kick in at 4k-6k.  Duc seem to get "snatchy" unless revved.
Suzuki's 1157 4 cylinder is a beast.  It was my second bike and it spoiled me forever regarding having both low end pull and high end punch.  "Snatchy" is a good way to say it for the Duc when the rpm are too low "chk chk chk chk"
« Last Edit: October 05, 2016, 11:05:40 AM by Nic in Western NC »
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Re: V-twin (Guzzi) vs Flat-twin (BMW)
« Reply #152 on: October 05, 2016, 11:03:47 AM »
The more the cylinders the smoother the delivery, but the amount of torque is all about the design, BMEP and very inportant stroke and bore to stroke ratio...( over simplified for sure but one sentance discription..sorta)

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Re: V-twin (Guzzi) vs Flat-twin (BMW)
« Reply #153 on: October 05, 2016, 06:42:52 PM »
NC Steve,
 
Surprised no-ones mentioned a certain 120* twin with
offset pins that runs dead smooth, won races for 20 yrs
And yet has never been used on the road????

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Re: V-twin (Guzzi) vs Flat-twin (BMW)
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Re: V-twin (Guzzi) vs Flat-twin (BMW)
« Reply #154 on: October 05, 2016, 07:27:36 PM »
Be still, my beating heart..  :smiley:
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Re: V-twin (Guzzi) vs Flat-twin (BMW)
« Reply #155 on: October 05, 2016, 07:33:44 PM »
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Re: V-twin (Guzzi) vs Flat-twin (BMW)
« Reply #156 on: October 05, 2016, 07:52:19 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfaXEk2nXGc

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Re: V-twin (Guzzi) vs Flat-twin (BMW)
« Reply #157 on: October 05, 2016, 07:54:44 PM »
They could probably sell rides on it.   :thumb:  I'd pay for one demo ride.  $20 maybe.  :grin:  The Bicilindrica that is.
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Re: V-twin (Guzzi) vs Flat-twin (BMW)
« Reply #158 on: October 05, 2016, 08:11:27 PM »
Just got in from a spirited run on a 4 valve.............. god those Guzzi engines move me. :bow:
I've owned and ridden the Japanese fours the Bmws........... sold them all eventually........ not sure what it is ,but I have found my machine.

Stinson out........... :thumb:

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Re: V-twin (Guzzi) vs Flat-twin (BMW)
« Reply #159 on: October 06, 2016, 05:47:02 AM »
Just got in from a spirited run on a 4 valve.............. god those Guzzi engines move me. :bow:
I've owned and ridden the Japanese fours the Bmws........... sold them all eventually........ not sure what it is ,but I have found my machine.

Stinson out........... :thumb:

Me, too..
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Re: V-twin (Guzzi) vs Flat-twin (BMW)
« Reply #160 on: October 06, 2016, 09:00:29 AM »
Me, too..

Me three!  :wink: The OHC 4V motor has certainly captured my attention!  :thumb: :cool: :1: :grin: :laugh:









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