V50 III refresh project

[jamesfjamesf]

I'm close enough that I can call it finished. It still needs some kind of graphics (the white metal emblems for the fuel tank don't match anymore), and the Napoleon barend mirrors don't fit (18mm rubber vs 17mm ID of the bars, plus whatever I'll remember as soon as I start riding it :-)

Thanks a ton to the people that helped me out on this project. I couldn't have done it with out you.

Hoping to get it out for s test ride in the next day or two.

jim

[rebaaron]

That's brilliant! There's a long-standing small block email group that's now at Moto-Guzzi-SmallBlock@groups.io. Back in the day it was very active. As a long time v50 owner I'm thrilled to see someone giving one some love. Been long since I've done anything to mine WildGuzzi deleted my account!

[Dave Swanson]

That's brilliant! There's a long-standing small block email group that's now at Moto-Guzzi-SmallBlock@groups.io. Back in the day it was very active. As a long time v50 owner I'm thrilled to see someone giving one some love. Been long since I've done anything to mine WildGuzzi deleted my account!

Agreed!  A fine job indeed that is not performed often these days.

WG occasionally deletes accounts that have not been active for a period of time.  It is best to pop in and post something every 6 months or so to keep from getting swept out!

[moto]

Legnano green, nice color! Great work! Contrasting graphics can make a big improvement:





  MGCycle usually stocks the original V7 sport decals, which might look great.

Moto

[jamesfjamesf]

Thanks all! Just after posting that I had trouble with the handgrips staying on with my usual hairspray trick. I left it overnight and the next day I forgot all about the trouble with the grips and when I started rolling it off the workstand it got away from me and went over, with the left grip still in my hand. I gave up for a while...

Got it back together over the past week (it needed new gauge bezels and a new turn signal, so I converted it to even more 70s with chrome bezels and round turn signals). I took it for a short test ride yesterday and of course there are things that need attention - the main one is that the headlight bracket is very loose on the rubbers that go atop the forks. Is there a bushing or insert that goes in there to give a tighter fit? It feels like the whole dash is going to come off when I hit bumps.

Legnano green, nice color! Great work! Contrasting graphics can make a big improvement:

  MGCycle usually stocks the original V7 sport decals, which might look great.

Moto

Thanks, I plan on doing that once I know all the mechanicals are done :-)

[moto]

...the headlight bracket is very loose on the rubbers that go atop the forks. Is there a bushing or insert that goes in there to give a tighter fit? It feels like the whole dash is going to come off when I hit bumps.

Yes, there is a stack of hardware and bushings that you can see in the clipping here from the parts manual. Basically it's two sets of # 5, tapered rubber bushings. These are put above and below the dash and clamped together with the central screw and a spacer. What you're looking at is the parts manual for the T3, but the dash you have is just a later version of it. I expect MGCycle has those tapered bushings but similar ones are in the hardware store.





Here they are. You need four and then you need odds and ends to complete the stack.

https://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_descripti on=1&keyword=10502250

[jamesfjamesf]

Yes, there is a stack of hardware and bushings that you can see in the clipping here from the parts manual. Basically it's two sets of # 5, tapered rubber bushings. These are put above and below the dash and clamped together with the central screw and a spacer.

I'm pretty sure what you point out is the mount for the gauge cluster to the headlight bracket. It's hard to see but I looked at a fiche from Harper's and it looks the same. What I'm referring to is the headlight bracket to the forks:





#33 I have, and then the ears get hung on top of that, but it's way too loose. And #33 has a hole in the center where I'd expect a fork cap to locate into, but my fork caps are smooth on top. It's possible I just need to bend the ears so they're tighter when I slide the bottom tab (held by #49) into place and screw it down.

jim

[moto]

jim
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I misunderstood, sorry. I don't know how your headlight bracket mounts.

[faffi]

Not sure if any of these help

https://oem-parts.hu/en/parts/motoguzzi/v-35/1979/v-35-v-50-acc-elettronica-350-500-1977-1980-emea-d-f/frame-front-rear-shock-absorber

https://oem-parts.hu/en/parts/motoguzzi/v-35/1979/v-35-v-50-acc-elettronica-350-500-1977-1980-emea-d-f/frame-headlights-horn

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325759782113

[jamesfjamesf]

Not sure if any of these help

No, but I was able to adjust things so that the forks, whose caps are also the top of the new Bitubo dampers I found out, are tight to the headlight bracket. While I had things apart I also added LEDs to the dash since only the Gen light worked. Much better! Thanks to WG for the ancient thread that pointed me to Super Bright LEDs . com site. Hoping to test it out once I get some time; I'm thinking the fork brace might have been adjusted poorly and causing some stiction.

jim

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

No, but I was able to adjust things so that the forks, whose caps are also the top of the new Bitubo dampers I found out, are tight to the headlight bracket. While I had things apart I also added LEDs to the dash since only the Gen light worked. Much better! Thanks to WG for the ancient thread that pointed me to Super Bright LEDs . com site. Hoping to test it out once I get some time; I'm thinking the fork brace might have been adjusted poorly and causing some stiction.

jim

If you still have the original Bosch charging system, then you'll need to add a resistor to the charge warning light circuit or it won't charge. I bought mine from Greg Bender.








I extended the one for my V50 to reach from the diode board to the fuseblock.

[jamesfjamesf]

If you still have the original Bosch charging system, then you'll need to add a resistor to the charge warning light circuit or it won't charge.

Thanks Charlie. I should have specified that I left the original one in there because of this. It was also the only light that still worked!

Funny thing is the LED lights are polarity sensitive and my hit rate for installing them the correct way the first time was worse than inserting a USB stick :-)

I was also able to get this P45t base headlight bulb from Ruiandsion at Amazon when a few months ago I was unable to find anything.:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084HCGZP7?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

It's a direct fit but i haven't tested the beam pattern at night yet.

jim

[remfanuk]

Has anyone here done a V50 rebuild? I don't see many mentions either here or out on the net in general.

Hi Jim

https://motoguzziv50.wordpress.com

It's not everyone's cuppa but it was my first stab at buggering about with motorcycles!  It might help.