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Wasted Time
« on: November 28, 2021, 02:07:29 PM »
I just spent almost two hours searching my garage for the misplaced rear wheel left bearing spacer on my new to me ‘79 1000SP after replacing the tire. This is the same spacer that gave me fits when I installed it backwards on the ‘79 G5 and bound up the rear wheel. After I moved all the bikes out, picked through the trash cans (including handling the dead rat that lovely Lila killed yesterday) swept under the benches and searched the dusty corners, I checked the parts fiche so that I could order a new one.  The cast wheels don’t use a spacer like the Borrani spokes.  The good news is that I’m not crazy, just still learning and happy to do so.
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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2021, 03:16:45 PM »
Garage Gremlins. They're nasty little suckers which deserve to be put down on sight. :evil:
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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2021, 04:11:20 PM »
The other good news is the garage got tidied up. Thats always a good thing. 
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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2021, 06:46:45 PM »
I’ve always found it’s always in the last place you look……..try looking there first.

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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2021, 08:34:40 PM »
Loosing something in your garage is a great opportunity to clean it up. Just clean until you find the #$%*& thing!
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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2021, 08:45:32 PM »
Loosing something in your garage is a great opportunity to clean it up. Just clean until you find the #$%*& thing!

Tried that on a CB-125s valve spring keeper.. It got way from me, and I looked everywhere.. Cleaned the shop head to toe.. I put the bike away for about a year.. Just knowing the keeper could not of possibly do a 90 degree into the open stator cover.. Well when I was putting the head on, something blocked me from turning the engine over.. Yep, the keeper can turn 90 degrees when a magnet is involved.. :evil:

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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2021, 09:01:49 PM »
when you get the replacement part try doing the same thing with it that you did with the original - you will then find both parts in the same location.
That's the combustion chamber of the turbo shaft. It is supposed to be on fire. You just don't usually see it but the case and fairing fell off.

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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2021, 09:23:02 PM »
I am getting hard of hearing...so when I drop a bolt (or whatnot) and lose sight if it, I will drop a second one on purpose to see what direction it goes.  Not usually successful, but it gives me a clue as to how far (if not direction) to look.
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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2021, 09:25:31 PM »
I am getting hard of hearing...so when I drop a bolt (or whatnot) and lose sight if it, I will drop a second one on purpose to see what direction it goes.  Not usually successful, but it gives me a clue as to how far (if not direction) to look.

That works fine until you misplace a cylinder head JRT.
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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2021, 10:17:59 PM »
I bought a magnetic parts dish from Harbor Chinese Tools some years ago for about $4 (then).  I won't claim it keeps me from "misplacing" parts, but it does keep the losses smaller.  A magnetized garage floor may be the only answer.  Then I have only aluminum spacers to worry about.  Someone is sure to remind me that my "fix" will not apply to stainless parts, either.
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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2021, 11:50:19 PM »
I lost a  Guzzi oil pan.

After days of searching I remembered that I had put it in the garbage tote to drain several weeks earlier.

I know where it is now, in the land fill.

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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2021, 11:59:51 PM »
I lost a  Guzzi oil pan.

After days of searching I remembered that I had put it in the garbage tote to drain several weeks earlier.

I know where it is now, in the land fill.

Doh!!    :embarrassed:
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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2021, 12:21:48 AM »
 As a learned amateur gunsmith, there is no worse feeling than when you hear the "ping-tink'-tink' " sound of a detent and its spring you were trying to install suddenly going ballistic off your work bench! Mr. murpy sez: the likelihood of you losing a small part directly correlates to how hard it will be to find a replacement! 
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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2021, 07:02:55 AM »
As a learned amateur gunsmith, there is no worse feeling than when you hear the "ping-tink'-tink' " sound of a detent and its spring you were trying to install suddenly going ballistic off your work bench! Mr. murpy sez: the likelihood of you losing a small part directly correlates to how hard it will be to find a replacement!

Roger that.  I keep two spare speedo drive bearings in my tool box and have never had to use them.
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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2021, 07:08:34 AM »
One good thing about looking for something you lost, is that in the process, you find all that wonderful stuff you forgot you had.   :grin:

It happens to me every day.

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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2021, 07:49:59 AM »
When this happens,about once a day for all kinds of objects,I tell my self to chill as it will turn up eventually and it usually does.When it doesn’t I ask my wife where she put it.

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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2021, 03:17:24 PM »
 Two things that have I discovered during my wrenching experiences:
   1- 10mm sockets and wrenches are composed of a very mysterious material of which science has yet to discover the secret, and that material is called 'FAE' or Fast Acting Evaporatium. FAE is activated by a sharp impact- such as dropping the socket or wrench onto a concrete floor. Ping! and it's gone and disappeared.

  2- My garage floor is a portal to another dimension. Within that dimension, on the other side of that portal, are beings who have built a temple of sorts and stockpiled the gifts from the god above who bestow upon them a variety of curious metal objects such as sockets and wrenches, which are interestingly enough only one size, and various small fittings, springs, nuts, bolts and a whole lot of other presumably important unidentifiable-to them- objects. These must be important gifts because they come from the slab above accompanied by a loud thundering voice of unintelligible words.
  These beings have built a temple, appointed priests who attend the pile of objects and await further gifts from the thundering being above.
  Indeed, my brethren, indeed.

  I pity the poor fool who bought my house with that garage floor in it.

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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2021, 09:29:58 AM »
For my street and Land Speed Race bike, I have multiple rear wheels fitted with 100/90, 110/80, 110/90 and 120/90 rear tires for gearing choices. Some wheels are cast, some are wire. I obtained enough of the wire wheel sombrero spacers, so that I could wire it to the spokes anytime a wire wheel comes off and a cast goes on.

I too had the nightmare scenario reversed spacer back in 1982. A dealer did it to me, and then I moved out of state. I beat on that axle for 6 hours moving it minute fractions of an inch to get that som-a-bitch out. When a buddy of mine got a flat on his convert and called and said, we can't get the axle out, I knew, he had the "reversed spacer nightmare". Seems, when you reverse it and tighten the axle nut, you dish the spacer forcing one edge into the axle. It also then digs into the bearing circlip, then it spins with the wheel, then it welds itself to the axle, you get metal transfer, and your fun begins when you go to remove said axle later...
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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2021, 09:43:49 AM »
I lost this screwdriver back in 1993 while changing the front tire of my AMA Pro Twins bike. Before I got the proper cable tool, I used to guide the valve stems through the rims using this thin philips driver. Well once I got the stem through, I dropped the driver, and assumed it rolled off under something to be found later. I installed the tire, the last front tire I ever mounted on that bike, and used it for the rest of the 1993 season. Sold the bike in 1994 to a collector. Bought the bike back in winter 2016/17 (23 years later) to build a Land Speed Racer. Was changing the tires out, and lo and behold my screwdriver. Yes, I roadraced a half a season with a screwdriver between my tube and tire.



« Last Edit: November 30, 2021, 09:45:20 AM by mtiberio »
Land Speed Records w/Guzzzi:
SCTA M-PG 1000 141.6 MPH
LTA M-PF 1000 137.3 MPH
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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2021, 08:23:57 PM »
I lost this screwdriver back in 1993 while changing the front tire of my AMA Pro Twins bike. Before I got the proper cable tool, I used to guide the valve stems through the rims using this thin philips driver. Well once I got the stem through, I dropped the driver, and assumed it rolled off under something to be found later. I installed the tire, the last front tire I ever mounted on that bike, and used it for the rest of the 1993 season. Sold the bike in 1994 to a collector. Bought the bike back in winter 2016/17 (23 years later) to build a Land Speed Racer. Was changing the tires out, and lo and behold my screwdriver. Yes, I roadraced a half a season with a screwdriver between my tube and tire.





And I worry about balancing my wheels... that must have been four or five ounces out at the perimeter. Great story.
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Re: Wasted Time
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2021, 08:42:23 PM »
I lost this screwdriver back in 1993 while changing the front tire of my AMA Pro Twins bike. Before I got the proper cable tool, I used to guide the valve stems through the rims using this thin philips driver. Well once I got the stem through, I dropped the driver, and assumed it rolled off under something to be found later. I installed the tire, the last front tire I ever mounted on that bike, and used it for the rest of the 1993 season. Sold the bike in 1994 to a collector. Bought the bike back in winter 2016/17 (23 years later) to build a Land Speed Racer. Was changing the tires out, and lo and behold my screwdriver. Yes, I roadraced a half a season with a screwdriver between my tube and tire.





Isn't that a violation of the AMA rules?    :wink:
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