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FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« on: August 09, 2021, 09:59:15 AM »
I have lost my last wrestling match with my piece of ****NO Mar.   I will give this entire piece of ****for FREE to anyone foolish enough to drive to East Tennessee and pick it up.  I want this piece of crap out of my basement PROTO!  Otherwise I will soon be tossing it in the scrap metal dumpster in town.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2021, 10:54:35 AM »
I've been hard at it for 3 hours now.  Finally got the old tire off.  No amount of technique, sun,  lube or tire irons will mount the new tire.  everything just spins. And yes, I have all the worthless gadgets like the green thing that NoMar peddles to cover up their**** product.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2021, 11:10:39 AM »
I had the same experience.  I sold mine on Craigslist to a fat rich guy who came to pick it up in his new BMW car.  He said he wanted to change the tires on his BMW GS himself.   Hahahaha

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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2021, 11:15:43 AM »
That's one of my favorite four letter words.  It's so full of potential, opportunity, regrets, ......

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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2021, 11:29:33 AM »
I got about $100 in my Harbor Freight rig. I've changed dozens and dozens of tires. I like it.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2021, 12:11:59 PM »
I got about $100 in my Harbor Freight rig. I've changed dozens and dozens of tires. I like it.

I have less than that.. :smiley: <snapping suspenders> but I have a lathe, mill, and lots of free Delrin.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2021, 01:34:47 PM »
The dude at Daytona bike week 2011 made it look so easy. My riding buddy HAD to have one. Fast foreword to 2012, I was the fool that bought it from him. Didn't take me long to figure out my time is better spent doing my job or riding rather cussing that POS! I have another buddy with a REAL tire machine  :thumb:
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2021, 01:41:35 PM »
Well, after 5 ****** hours, give or take, I've given up.  No amount of tricks, tools tire irons, lube. etc. will mount a Bridgestone T30 evo Sport Touring tire on a Honda VFR rear rim. The only tires I ever had any success with were Marshmallow Michelins.  I'm dismantling the NoMar just as soon as I hit the send button on this.  I would rather spend $2500 dollars on a K&L or a Weaver Tire changing machine that put another drop of sweat and blood into that POS NoMar. 
« Last Edit: August 09, 2021, 04:00:52 PM by Ncdan »

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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2021, 01:54:09 PM »
Motormike,

You mention in your first or second post that the tire "just spins".  For mere mortals, the NoMar tire mounting bar seems to only work for race or sport tires, never anything stiffer.  It was hard to mount the sport tires on my V11 and my Suzuki TLR using the bars.  For stiffer tires, tire irons are the only way that I've been successful.
There is a trick to getting the dismount bar inserted and in my experience, removal is relatively easy once that is learned.

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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2021, 01:54:33 PM »
I got a group of friends in Johnson City TN that will gladly take it off your hands.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2021, 02:11:00 PM »
As far as I'm concerned, as soon as one has to break out the tire irons,(not that I haven't tried that too) then the NoMar becomes nothing more than an overprices tire stand.  Might as well buy a Harbor Freight and save some $$.

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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2021, 02:12:19 PM »
Anybody that wants it will have to come get it.  I have no intention of expending any more effort on it other than to take it apart.

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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2021, 02:14:06 PM »
Anybody that wants it will have to come get it.  I have no intention of expending any more effort on it other than to take it apart.

If you'll kindly PM me some contact info I'll get the TN boys on it ASAP.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2021, 02:28:06 PM »
I have a local guy, changes tires and balances for $25.   I would never try to change a m/c tire, a gave that crap up before I turned 30.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2021, 02:28:44 PM »
And I have a Free Harbor Freight tire changer in my garage to anyone who wants to come get it in Carlsbad, California. PM if you want it.

I just bought a NoMar with hitch mount and found it much easier and convenient than the HF. But I use the Mojo lever, not the No Mar lever. No need for tire irons. I have not figured out the NoMar lever, but I'm so fast with the Mojo lever that I am not even gonna try.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2021, 03:14:34 PM »
Ahhhhh! I must admit, dismantling that POS was more satisfying than using it ever was!

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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2021, 03:32:06 PM »
I been using a 16gal drum and irons for over 40yrs, nothing better cept pneumatic. I do get black & blue's on the back of my hands but I'm getting old skin. You just can't be a wimp, wrap one iron under thigh & hold in place otherwise a Buck knife. Save all the $ and work.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2021, 03:40:30 PM »
I was completely on top of the NoMar at one point, using knees, hands, arms, I would have used my tongue if it would have made any difference, but it wouldn't

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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2021, 04:36:00 PM »
Tex snapped the beveled end off of a no-mar lever trying to remove an older, stiff tire.  He's got it behind the front door now as a home defense tool.  He says he can easily prove in court that it is in fact, completely harmless.

 :laugh: :laugh: The POS is in the same spot as when you were here and it is staying there until I die.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2021, 04:36:37 PM »
I marked my 71st birthday changing a 100/90-18 Marathon and a 175/55-17 car tire with my NoMar. The machine has it's limitations- it seems to be designed for wider sport bike tires and rims, so I had to use the tire levers with the 100/90-18 and a bit with the little car tire. The keys are lots of lubricant and work with the tire- keep the opposite side down in the recess of the rim. But scrap a NoMar? Never, I wouldn't even try mounting those little car tires without a machine!
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2021, 05:38:07 PM »
Its a shame to let an inanimate object get the better of you.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2021, 06:11:23 PM »
Its a shame to let an inanimate object get the better of you.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2021, 06:45:16 PM »
If I chop it to pieces with a die grinder has it still got the better of me?

Nope not the better….. the best. You can be as mad at the tire machine as you want. It has no feelings or emotion. It could care less if to cut it up, sell it, throw it away or send it to bed w/o dessert.

As before if you pm me some contact info I have a group of guys who would gladly take the NoMar off your hands and put it to good use.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2021, 07:29:44 PM »
The No Mar experience sounds so profound, I will have to get one just for the joy of a worthy defeat.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2021, 07:54:16 PM »
I've had good luck with mine <shrug>. I've had to do more macgyvering getting beads seated than mounting/dismounting tires.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2021, 09:27:05 PM »
Too funny. I bought a used No-Mar last year, and I love it. 'Course maybe I don't know any better. I've changed maybe 5 tires on it, from my old Tonties.
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2021, 11:55:39 PM »


Patience is a virtue, I have a nomar and yes I dont have a high opinion of mine either but I also use a mojo bar which is good for mounting and the demount end of the nomar I have modified with a file and plenty of good lubricant is ok for demounting but it took me a while to master it to some degree. Still a piece of rubbish but I bought it and im stuck with it. Ray
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2021, 05:58:58 AM »
I use three tire irons, a valve stem fishing tool and a moving blanket on the floor.  Maybe it’s because I only have older bikes with narrower tires, but they all seem to get changed ok. 
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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2021, 06:08:06 AM »
Like my grandmother used to say:

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Myself, I take it to a local shop - $30 per skin, wheel on. Re & Re + static balance.

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Re: FREE to a greater fool..No More NO MAR
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2021, 08:27:06 AM »
And I have a Free Harbor Freight tire changer in my garage to anyone who wants to come get it in Carlsbad, California. PM if you want it.

I just bought a NoMar with hitch mount and found it much easier and convenient than the HF. But I use the Mojo lever, not the No Mar lever. No need for tire irons. I have not figured out the NoMar lever, but I'm so fast with the Mojo lever that I am not even gonna try.

Yeah, I'm not happy with my NoMar but haven't given up completely....thank s for the tip on the Mojo bar, I'll get one and try it again.  I didn't have a problem dismounting, mounting is another story.  And, yeah, I've watched all the videos, used lube & yellow thing, let the tire sit in warm sunlight, get bead in drop area of rim, etc.  After having experience with a Coats pneumatic machine, the NoMar is really pushing my patience to its limits.  I thought it would be a cost effective alternative to spending thousands for a powered changer plus a larger air compressor.  Oh well, I'll spend a couple more bucks and try the Mojo, Thanks!

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