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zari

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Re: clutch problem the old one
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2015, 01:29:52 PM »
to do the job a  replace the suspect  crankshaft thrust bearing I have to disassemble the engine? :+=copcar :+=copcar :+=copcar :+=copcar

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Re: clutch problem the old one
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2015, 02:53:29 PM »
Try to measure the crank end float accurately. 1mm is far too much (40 thou). I recently had to check out the end float on my Le Mans 2 and it came in at 0.12mm / 4.7 thou, which gives you an idea of how much in excess 1mm / 40 thou is.

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Re: clutch problem the old one
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2015, 06:27:07 PM »
Thanks guys, for the timely revival of this thread, I may well have missed it. (So what else have I missed?)

Timely because the V7C's clutch has started slipping - especially under load out of an uphill corner - and I've been loosing available cable adjustment. Those photos of the outer body in post #5 helped. It looks like the thrust bearing is worn - see my photos. But as the clutch is slipping as well, I think that the friction plate might be worn as well - the bike has only done 120,000k (75,000 miles).





Do you think I should try releasing the adjuster screw on the arm to find out if the outer body sits further out without the pressure? The locknut releases, but with the swingarm in place, getting at the end of the adjuster screw is difficult. (I note that the clutch operating arm - called the "1  clutch release shaft" in the parts manual - has been relocated on the V7 II to the same place as on the 1100 Sport, so easier to access).

My thoughts as of this morning, are that I should replace the thrust bearing first & see how the affects things. I would prefer to put off taking the clutch apart as long as possible - that would need a few days at least for me and a roof would be convenient. Oh for a shed! I'm going to need to do it anyway, sooner, rather than later, as I've still to replace the gearshift return spring, bush & replace the kickstand pivot bolt, and straighten the centrestand.

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zari

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Re: clutch problem the old one
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2015, 07:25:42 AM »
Hello

OK. Oust finish to assemble  the clutch rod and  all and go out to test drive. I. Push. Gear no 1   but when I try to move up.   2 3 4 5   Can't. Sucsses  the gear seem to be stuck.  Why. 1. And  neutral OK  help. Please  :bike :+=copcar
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Re: clutch problem the old one
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Re: clutch problem the old one
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2015, 02:44:01 PM »
Have you moved the bolt at the rear of the gearbox return spring adjustment.


When you move the gear pedal by hand does it spring back when you let go?

Here's a link I found very useful when doing the 5 speed on my Eldorado
http://www.thisoldtractor.com/guzzitech.dk/gb_en_complex-technical_gearbox-rebuilding-pictures.htm
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Re: clutch problem the old one
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2015, 09:03:02 PM »

   The inner and outer bodies I refered to are sometimes called top-hats because of their shape. They are the parts that fit over both ends of the pushrod.

zari

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Re: clutch problem the old one
« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2015, 07:33:32 AM »
after assemble  all new pushrod  parts  take some pic  what do you think about the space (red in the pic )

link pic   https://plus.google.com/photos/117012899164096054821/albums/6143502760799046225?authkey=CJeUi6La2sXxOA  :+=copcar :+=copcar :+=copcar

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Re: clutch problem the old one
« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2015, 05:05:49 AM »
after assemble  all new pushrod  parts  take some pic  what do you think about the space (red in the pic )

link pic   https://plus.google.com/photos/117012899164096054821/albums/6143502760799046225?authkey=CJeUi6La2sXxOA 

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Re: clutch problem the old one
« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2015, 05:31:08 AM »
hELLO

ARE THIS STATUS OF  GEAR ARM MECHANISM (PIC  )  IS CORRECT? (ALL 90 DEGREE)  I MEAN IN NEUTRAL MODE

https://plus.google.com/photos/117012899164096054821/albums/6144961593004982689?authkey=CLSsjrLX1O-mFQ     :winer :wife: :wife:
 

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Re: clutch problem the old one
« Reply #39 on: May 04, 2015, 09:40:03 AM »
hELLO

ARE THIS STATUS OF  GEAR ARM MECHANISM (PIC  )  IS CORRECT? (ALL 90 DEGREE)  I MEAN IN NEUTRAL MODE

https://plus.google.com/photos/117012899164096054821/albums/6144961593004982689?authkey=CLSsjrLX1O-mFQ     :winer :wife: :wife:
 

Yes all 90* when possible, adjust lever angle with rod length adjustment.
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