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Title: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Luap McKeever on November 09, 2018, 11:11:18 AM
Received the brochure this morning on the TT, and the entire lineup is in it.  Not a bad selection for a company that's been going out business for 97 years :evil:

(https://thumb.ibb.co/kxo4cq/lineup.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kxo4cq)
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: PJPR01 on November 09, 2018, 11:45:20 AM
Not bad at all!  Let the countdown to 100 years begin! 

I'd like to make it to Mandello for that celebration!

Prescott...are you still in?  Just enough time for you to take Italian lessons.   :laugh: :laugh:

Andiamo...facciamo un giro d'Italia!

 :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: DaSwami on November 09, 2018, 12:36:20 PM
Awesome!  Now are they actually going to bring in that pretty green V9 Roamer??   I'll be waiting if they do!
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Rhodan on November 09, 2018, 01:53:48 PM
If anyone else was curious what the V7iii Night Pack is, here's what one site is saying (love on-line translations)

"
In this variant of surname Night Pack and built using as a base the version Stone highlights the fully LED lighting, both front and rear and for the intermittent, and that manages to give a different appearance to the Italian model.
 
In the case of the headlight, it is mounted in a slightly lower position while behind, the optics is also different and is associated with a shorter and thinner rear fender. The tuition support is also new.
The seat, although it maintains the shapes, has a sewn on top plus an embroidered logo that makes us know that we are facing the special version of the Moto Guzzi V7 III Stone "Night Pack", which can be purchased in black color , blue and bronze.
"

Original site:  https://www.soymotero.net/moto-guzzi-v7-iii-stone-night-pack-2019-detalles-diferenciadores-27353

I'm not sure what "tuition support" is supposed to be.  Here's the original Italian:
 El soporte de la matrícula también es nuevo.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: rdbandkab on November 09, 2018, 02:23:19 PM
Nothing for me today thanks.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Tusayan on November 09, 2018, 02:41:36 PM
Quote from: Rhodan

I'm not sure what "tuition support" is supposed to be.  Here's the original Italian:

El soporte de la matrícula también es nuevo.

The quoted text says license plate bracket is also new.

(in Spanish, not Italian)
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: rocker59 on November 09, 2018, 03:06:23 PM
"The tuition support is also new."
 

I'm not sure what "tuition support" is supposed to be.  Here's the original Italian:
 El soporte de la matrícula también es nuevo.

Should read:  "The registration support is also new"  ie, the license plate support is new.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: arveno on November 09, 2018, 03:24:25 PM
I see 4 motorcycles.

V7III
V9
850tt
1400 California and sisters.

No sports/touring motorcycles.
No sport motorcycles

I see where Piaggio is going with Guzzi.......

Have fun.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Bulldog9 on November 09, 2018, 03:35:51 PM
Nice lineup, but nothing that interests me. Will be interesting to see if sales pick up.... Will Guzzi re-embrace any level of performance oriented bikes? 
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Rhodan on November 09, 2018, 04:26:27 PM
The quoted text says license plate bracket is also new.

(in Spanish, not Italian)

That would do it. ;)  (re: Spanish not Italian).  The online translator did a great job then!
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Green1000S on November 09, 2018, 05:18:36 PM

Not good. I have already Stelvio NTX and Stornello.
Now I need a V85 and Himalayan.... Shit, I'm screwed.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Joliet Jim on November 09, 2018, 05:27:49 PM
I see 4 motorcycles.

V7III
V9
850tt
1400 California and sisters.

No sports/touring motorcycles.
No sport motorcycles

I see where Piaggio is going with Guzzi.......

Have fun.

That was kind of my thought until I thought back to 2002 where you had
1100 California sisters
V11 Sport and sisters
750 Nevada

Maybe it has gotten a lot better
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: arveno on November 09, 2018, 05:38:12 PM
That was kind of my thought until I thought back to 2002 where you had
1100 California sisters
V11 Sport and sisters
750 Nevada

Maybe it has gotten a lot better





I really hope and I think the sales will pick up... especially because the V7 and V9 are affordable.
The 85tt price should be around 14/15k according what I have read from the Italian press ( but it’s just an estimate, nothing official yet )

Maybe if the sales increase there will be money to invest in a new motorcycle model more sport/touring oriented...?!
Who knows ... we will see.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: bad Chad on November 09, 2018, 05:43:27 PM
Indeed.  Or 1998. You had your choice of a Ev or a Centaro, period, that was it, take or leave it!
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: TimmyTheHog on November 09, 2018, 06:00:51 PM
I see 4 motorcycles.

V7III
V9
850tt
1400 California and sisters.

No sports/touring motorcycles.
No sport motorcycles

I see where Piaggio is going with Guzzi.......

Have fun.

Well, hopefully whatever the "road inspired" bikes from the V85 engines Guzzi are cooking up will satisfy the sport and sport touring line...

Retro is here and it is here to stay at least for another few more years IMO, hence the sale in V7 & "some" V9...with its million other color scheme of the same bike...

Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Joliet Jim on November 09, 2018, 06:24:33 PM
Indeed.  Or 1998. You had your choice of a Ev or a Centaro, period, that was it, take or leave it!


Key word would be Centauro (the mythical beast) Everything has been downhill since then :)
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Turin on November 09, 2018, 06:38:18 PM
Not too shabby.  I bet that Atlante Blue for the new V85 will be striking! As for the lineup, I'm not going to bitch, because I've never been in the market for a new Guzzi.

Someone has to rescue the old unloved ones.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: twowheeladdict on November 09, 2018, 06:53:02 PM
Received the brochure this morning on the TT, and the entire lineup is in it.  Not a bad selection for a company that's been going out business for 97 years :evil:

(https://thumb.ibb.co/kxo4cq/lineup.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kxo4cq)


OK.  How are they offering a Carbon Dark when mine is supposed to be number 9 or 1921?  Didn't think they were supposed to make any more. 
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: DaSwami on November 09, 2018, 07:13:32 PM
OK.  How are they offering a Carbon Dark when mine is supposed to be number 9 or 1921?  Didn't think they were supposed to make any more.

I'm guessing they have not made 1921 yet so they are continuing on this calendar year.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Cam3512 on November 09, 2018, 07:59:07 PM
OK.  How are they offering a Carbon Dark when mine is supposed to be number 9 or 1921?  Didn't think they were supposed to make any more.

Weren't they only supposed to make 100 Racers?  Means nothing.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: John Ulrich on November 10, 2018, 05:08:27 AM

Key word would be Centauro (the mythical beast) Everything has been downhill since then :)

 :wink:   You talk like one of those old duffers sitting around a campfire still crying about the paper newsletters going to email!!!     :wink:
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: blu guzz on November 10, 2018, 06:24:42 AM
I see this "badge engineering" as a good thing for a small brand like Guzzi.  They have a few good, tested platforms and make variations.  A different approach is taken by Harley.  In the Harley world, a lot of riders see the bike as a starting point and Harley has spent decades cultivating this mindset in its riders, and a great idea it was.  However, the dealers had to stock massive amounts of chrome parts for all of the various bikes.  As a former owner, I could go in to the store and walk out with a $25 part.  Or, walk out with a $2,500 part.  Many times, I was in the dealer and just bought some small chrome doo-dad and Harley made a profit every time.  That model would not work for Guzzi because the dealers are generally so much smaller and don't have the space and cannot afford to carry huge amounts of "add ons" in stock hoping they will sell.  As such, my point is (finally) that the prospective Guzzi buyer can buy a bike already customized.  With that business model, the dealer only has to stock the bikes themselves as they would have anyway.  I like it.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: twowheeladdict on November 10, 2018, 06:41:30 AM
I see this "badge engineering" as a good thing for a small brand like Guzzi.  They have a few good, tested platforms and make variations.  A different approach is taken by Harley.  In the Harley world, a lot of riders see the bike as a starting point and Harley has spent decades cultivating this mindset in its riders, and a great idea it was.  However, the dealers had to stock massive amounts of chrome parts for all of the various bikes.  As a former owner, I could go in to the store and walk out with a $25 part.  Or, walk out with a $2,500 part.  Many times, I was in the dealer and just bought some small chrome doo-dad and Harley made a profit every time.  That model would not work for Guzzi because the dealers are generally so much smaller and don't have the space and cannot afford to carry huge amounts of "add ons" in stock hoping they will sell.  As such, my point is (finally) that the prospective Guzzi buyer can buy a bike already customized.  With that business model, the dealer only has to stock the bikes themselves as they would have anyway.  I like it.

But today we have the internet and fast transportation.  I ordered the extras I wanted for the V7 and they arrived at my home.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: jas67 on November 10, 2018, 07:10:34 AM
Weren't they only supposed to make 100 Racers?  Means nothing.

Mine says 362/1000 on it.   

I guess when they hit 100, they just added a zero.

But yes, means nothing.

As for the V7 III Stone Night Pack -- I want the LED headlight from that on my Special.
I'll have to watch AF1 and/or MGCycle's parts pages to see what that'll cost to retrofit.

Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: JJ on November 10, 2018, 07:20:05 AM
Received the brochure this morning on the TT, and the entire lineup is in it.  Not a bad selection for a company that's been going out business for 97 years :evil:

(https://thumb.ibb.co/kxo4cq/lineup.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kxo4cq)


Looks pretty good to me!  Now only if PIAGGIO would support their dealers in the USA!! :shocked: :shocked:
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Joliet Jim on November 10, 2018, 08:50:30 AM
:wink:   You talk like one of those old duffers sitting around a campfire still crying about the paper newsletters going to email!!!     :wink:

says the guy with the 72 ambo
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Luap McKeever on November 10, 2018, 08:52:36 AM
Looks pretty good to me!  Now only if PIAGGIO would support their dealers in the USA!! :shocked: :shocked:

No truer words have been written.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: blu guzz on November 10, 2018, 11:15:42 AM
"But today we have the internet and fast transportation.  I ordered the extras I wanted for the V7 and they arrived at my home."

I agree, but going to the Harley dealer as a thing to do for fun for Harley riders and it is those impulse buys that generated a lot of revenue.  Also, with MG, if you want to buy a stone and customize it from the net, you still have that option, so, best of both worlds as I see it.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: twowheeladdict on November 10, 2018, 11:35:57 AM
"But today we have the internet and fast transportation.  I ordered the extras I wanted for the V7 and they arrived at my home."

I agree, but going to the Harley dealer as a thing to do for fun for Harley riders and it is those impulse buys that generated a lot of revenue.  Also, with MG, if you want to buy a stone and customize it from the net, you still have that option, so, best of both worlds as I see it.

Harley also has customized models from the factory.  They are 'specials', 'customs', and CVOs. 

Just like Moto Guzzi has different versions of the V7, Harley makes different versions of their Sportsters, Softails, and Touring bikes.  Many common parts, but enough unique parts to differentiate them.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Daleroso on November 10, 2018, 04:33:52 PM
I asked the parts mgr @ Euro Cycles in Reno (their main focus is Triumph, a few MV's & picked up RE this yr) if they were going to stock any MG (have had about 4 yrs) accessories. "Nah, I'll orer'em for ya."
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: twowheeladdict on November 10, 2018, 08:52:40 PM
I'm guessing they have not made 1921 yet so they are continuing on this calendar year.

Probably right because the one at the show was 600 something of 1921.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: SmithSwede on November 10, 2018, 09:36:20 PM
Not bad at all!  Let the countdown to 100 years begin! 

I'd like to make it to Mandello for that celebration!

Prescott...are you still in?  Just enough time for you to take Italian lessons.   :laugh: :laugh:

Andiamo...facciamo un giro d'Italia
 :thumb: :thumb

Yep.  I’m in. 
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: stratoguzzi on November 13, 2018, 10:46:34 AM
They have so many V7 models but none with windshield and hard bags.That would be a good seller or maybe I'm the only one that feels that way.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: kidsmoke on November 13, 2018, 12:12:43 PM
That was kind of my thought until I thought back to 2002 where you had
1100 California sisters
V11 Sport and sisters
750 Nevada

Maybe it has gotten a lot better

Better...then worse, again??

2009:
Tonti California
V7
CARC:
        Norge
        Griso
        Stelvio
        Breva
Breva 750
MGS-01

THAT's a broad range, too broad for that small shop in Mandello.

Imagine if the product development meetings for the last 20 years could be condensed and published chronologically, as things like MGS/CARC/Euro emission are discussed and factored. As a manufacturer and enthusiast, it would be fascinating.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: fossil on November 13, 2018, 12:17:39 PM
They have so many V7 models but none with windshield and hard bags.That would be a good seller or maybe I'm the only one that feels that way.

Then go and order the V7 III of your wishes with the OEM windshield - like I did with my V7 I back 1n 2013. And the OEM semi rigid bags are not bad and fit the bike much better than rigids.

In other words - go to your dealer and get your bike exactly as customised as you want it. Guzzi makes it possible.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: twowheeladdict on November 13, 2018, 12:24:07 PM
They have so many V7 models but none with windshield and hard bags.That would be a good seller or maybe I'm the only one that feels that way.

The accessory catalog has all you need, and Hepco Becker offers some alternatives.  If you must finance, make the accessories part of the deal. 

I personally hate windshields.  I would rather be in the clean air. 


Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: rdbandkab on November 13, 2018, 12:26:23 PM
I miss the Norge, Griso, and Breva styled bikes.  I miss the Breva mostly for its decently comfortable 2up layout.  Adding to that was removable luggage that didn't leave a bracket frame hanging off when you removed the bags.  Adding a small fairing to the front worked nicely to keep the buffeting down on high speed runs also.
Fingers crossed for something along those lines using the 850 lump.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Toecutter on November 13, 2018, 01:00:21 PM
IMO... the V& benefits from a small flyscreen, like the Dart. Adds a good 200 km to a day's trip by taking the windblast off the chest, while leaving the head and arms "in the wind".

But, I'd rather they left it as an aftermarket option, rather than tacking it onto the bike (and price) on the floor. Windscreens are a *very* personal choice on a bike, both in "yes or no" as well as "what size, shape, etc".

Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Thirtyaughtsix on November 13, 2018, 01:15:58 PM
Here's a nice 30 min clip someone took at the show over the weekend detailing most if not all of these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quFZEC972P0&t=1265s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quFZEC972P0&t=1265s)
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Cam3512 on November 13, 2018, 01:28:37 PM
IMO... the V& benefits from a small flyscreen, like the Dart. Adds a good 200 km to a day's trip by taking the windblast off the chest, while leaving the head and arms "in the wind".

But, I'd rather they left it as an aftermarket option, rather than tacking it onto the bike (and price) on the floor. Windscreens are a *very* personal choice on a bike, both in "yes or no" as well as "what size, shape, etc".

Yea, but not so fun at highway speeds or driving rain.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Toecutter on November 13, 2018, 01:34:04 PM
Yea, but not so fun at highway speeds or driving rain.

I disagree. I still prefer it to riding a car without doors. Rain and snow and hail... is about clothing, not a giant wall of plexiglass.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: oilhed on November 13, 2018, 04:26:20 PM
The accessory catalog has all you need, and Hepco Becker offers some alternatives.  If you must finance, make the accessories part of the deal. 

I personally hate windshields.  I would rather be in the clean air.

I like HB junior bags with the color matched inserts. Don’t know if I’d be able to match a Milano!  I’d like a fairing that looks like the old 1000SP.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Ncdan on November 13, 2018, 09:14:35 PM
Im going to venture out at say the 2019 is identical to the 2014, so not really new, if that's the case. However I stand corrected if any changes have been made.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: twowheeladdict on November 14, 2018, 02:02:26 AM
Im going to venture out at say the 2019 is identical to the 2014, so not really new, if that's the case. However I stand corrected if any changes have been made.

huh?
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: fossil on November 14, 2018, 02:41:38 AM
Im going to venture out at say the 2019 is identical to the 2014, so not really new, if that's the case. However I stand corrected if any changes have been made.

I don´t get it either.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: timax on November 14, 2018, 03:21:19 AM
Im going to venture out at say the 2019 is identical to the 2014, so not really new, if that's the case. However I stand corrected if any changes have been made.
What picture are you looking at?
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: elvisboy77 on November 14, 2018, 06:29:45 AM
Mine says 362/1000 on it.   

I guess when they hit 100, they just added a zero.

But yes, means nothing.

As for the V7 III Stone Night Pack -- I want the LED headlight from that on my Special.
I'll have to watch AF1 and/or MGCycle's parts pages to see what that'll cost to retrofit.

When I read the Moto Guzzi history book last year, the specifications on quantity made for about every model made them "limited editions"  Seriously.  The numbering is a marketing thing, but would you buy a bike solely based on the number?  All Guzzis are unique and collectible if you ask me.
Title: Re: 2019 Moto Guzzi Lineup
Post by: Ncdan on November 14, 2018, 07:41:12 AM
Sorry guys it was late when I posted and my thoughts were ahead of my brain:(
I was attempting to refer to my 2015 tourer and just saying that I doubt there have been little or no changes in that particular bike. Hope this makes a little more sense.