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Quote from: cruzziguzzi on December 12, 2015, 03:15:01 PMThat is a beautiful package. I have no issues with 70's performance or looks and am in fact quite happy with them. It's the breathless anticipation/pining for it as though it's anything special that's kinda entertaining to me."Look Ma - I made pasta as well as Grandma did!"Todd.The measure of what's special is the interest you have for it.
That is a beautiful package. I have no issues with 70's performance or looks and am in fact quite happy with them. It's the breathless anticipation/pining for it as though it's anything special that's kinda entertaining to me."Look Ma - I made pasta as well as Grandma did!"Todd.
They could have the controls where the Racer has.
Why can't they crack this nut???
BUT the V7 is built as A2 compliant for the European market. What they propose is the have another platform ie: the Roamer completely separate from the V7 in terms of all components and basic design, then use that to accomplish what we (and others in the world market) want, more HP and torque as time moves forward.
So, while they could give us a 65HP V7 it would most likely not work out as that is not the purpose of the current V7s. They are A2 bikes for now.
So a detuned V9, even if it derives from a 65 hp model, is perfectly A2 compliant, like the detuned Scrambler is.That said, I find hard to believe that the 750 engine will survive after 31/12/2016. To keep in production two different engines is more costly than to produce only one, and for what gain, if all the competitiors are yet at, or over, 800cc?
SnippedLast and this is hard to say, but I will say it................w e don't buy enough Guzzis to make them jump through hoops. Guzzi and Royal Enfield are not too far apart in the US market in terms of sales. We can't demand much of anything until we are seem as players. They thought the new 1400s would be a bigger hit in the USA. Guess not. Vespa (also Piaggio) sells far better than Guzzi in the US. Why can't they crack this nut???
If the V7 tooling and setup has been paid for in terms of sales in may survive, but it is a very dated platform. Still effective however.
What do MG customers want? The Norge sit unsold, the MG Adventure bike sit unsold. The new 1400s of both iterations sit unsold. So, none of these are the bikes people want. What is??? Maybe the V7s as they are the only bikes that move, even if very slowly. I live in the best climate in America to ride in. I see more motor scooters in one day than I see MGs in a year. My MG is so rare people take pictures of it. A new one at that I might add. So, what do MG riders want? Certainly not being made it seems.
I don't want Guzzi to become more popular. I like the fact that it's an obscure brand and you rarely see one on the road. If I wanted to be a sheep, I'd buy a batwing faired Harley and wear their underwear.
As for MG dealers who have failed....was it Piaggio and their bad practices? OR a poor business plan and under capitalization. My local dealer when I asked told me they are same as everyone else, they want to make money. So do I. I sell more than MG and we do fine.
I don't think many have failed so much as chosen to stop carrying new Guzzis.Though I guess you could argue at least Speakers "failed" from the point that it was ALL they carried so they essentially closed the doors.Of course, if you look at some of the dealers that have departed in the past few years, they include names that were consistently in the top 3 or top 5 of the MG dealers in the COUNTRY by sales. So I'm thinking it wasn't the dealer's business plan so much as lack of support and unrealistic demands by Piaggio NA.
This discussion saddens me. I am very pleased to have discovered Moto Guzzi and to now own a Norge. When I have some extra money, I hope to also own a V7 or a V9. I hope Moto Guzzi and Piaggio press on in the U.S.Moto Guzzi does indeed make nice products, and I am thrilled they are made in Italy and not in China, India, or Thailand. I simply did not know about them, and I have owned several motorcycles. By the way, I don't care too much about specifications when it comes to motorcycles. Appearance and fun are much more important to me.Also, my wife and I each own a new Vespa. She got hers before we knew about Moto Guzzi, and I got mine after we learned about Moto Guzzi.
I'm jumping in late here but, this is the dyno sheet from that 2014 Racer I customized earlier this year..I had a speed shop port and polish the heads, they improved air flow by 14%. It has the Guzzitech 2 into 1 exhaust, re-flashed ECU and K&N air filter. That's a long way off of 65 hp!
Not having customers is not the customers fault.