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Re: Cadre Cycle
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2019, 07:14:31 PM »
I know all the details about this V9 push not because he was pushing a sale but because I was peppering him with questions because I’m fascinated as to how a guy like him is making a go of it with all that we hear about the challenges of working with Piaggio. Rose Farm, C&D, Cleveland Moto are all dealerships withing 400 miles of him who’ve hung it up recently. He’s got a bride and small kids, he’s a sharp guy with no doubt lots of options and yet, he’s hanging his hat on Moto Guzzi.

While I admire Cadre devotion & commitment, judging by all of the dealers that at one time carried Guzzi and no longer do or who are no longer even in business, his business model does not bode well for their longevity.  I wish them the best, maybe the V85 will save the dealers!

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Re: Cadre Cycle
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2019, 10:57:41 PM »
While I admire Cadre devotion & commitment, judging by all of the dealers that at one time carried Guzzi and no longer do or who are no longer even in business, his business model does not bode well for their longevity.  I wish them the best, maybe the V85 will save the dealers!

See post #4 in this WG thread:  https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99301.0

i don't know what his books look like, but he's selling more than a new Guzzi a week, plus profit on used machines, plus all the servicing he's doing. As a small operator who keeps costs low....you never know. 1921. It's been a minute....
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Re: Cadre Cycle
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2019, 06:20:15 AM »
Buying three of our four Guzzi's from Cadre, I can't speak highly enough for the integrity and quality of the team at Cadre.
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« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2019, 07:25:58 AM »
Buying three of our four Guzzi's from Cadre, I can't speak highly enough for the integrity and quality of the team at Cadre.

I agree 100%. :thumb:
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« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2019, 07:35:27 AM »
While I admire Cadre devotion & commitment, judging by all of the dealers that at one time carried Guzzi and no longer do or who are no longer even in business, his business model does not bode well for their longevity.  I wish them the best, maybe the V85 will save the dealers!

See post #4 in this WG thread:  https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=99301.0

That is why I was confident buying a Guzzi from Sloan's in Murfreesboro.  Moto Guzzi is just one of the 13 brands they carry.  They only need to sell the minimum required a year to keep carrying them.  They also carry all the other Paggio products. 
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« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2019, 08:22:08 AM »
Oh crap.  Tell me it isn't so !

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Re: Cadre Cycle
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2019, 09:03:16 AM »
Well - the new "herd" of leftover motorbikes are still "in transit" as of this morning.

......... now queuing elevator music.......

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« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2019, 09:17:02 AM »
Well - the new "herd" of leftover motorbikes are still "in transit" as of this morning.

......... now queuing elevator music.......

I hate elevator music ... but it’ll be worth the wait!


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Re: Cadre Cycle
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2019, 09:22:52 AM »
I hate elevator music ... but it’ll be worth the wait!




The roamer does have a nicer look than the bobber and a more relaxed riding position.  Sloans has a leftover bobber but no roamer to test ride.  I still think that if I add a third bike to my stable it will have more dual sport capability.
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« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2019, 08:42:00 AM »
The roamer does have a nicer look than the bobber and a more relaxed riding position.  Sloans has a leftover bobber but no roamer to test ride.  I still think that if I add a third bike to my stable it will have more dual sport capability.

I just think the Roamers are straight up gorgeous motorcycles.



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Re: Cadre Cycle
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2019, 08:36:42 AM »
Well - the new "herd" of leftover motorbikes are still "in transit" as of this morning.

......... now queuing elevator music.......

.....and still waiting.......
But, the weather has been really [censored] so it's not really cutting into my riding time.  THIS weekend is another two rounds of rain/sleet/snow.
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Re: Cadre Cycle
« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2019, 02:54:25 PM »
For those that haven't been to Carde's here is a little web spot i put together for them in 2016.

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« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2019, 02:56:28 PM »
Very likely the BEST deal to be had on the planet for a new v9, is at Cadre.  Blowout pricing through the end of this year, which for them will be the end of this week;  $5500 plus $550 freight and tiny doc fee means out the door for me in IL $6120!!!   And if you live within 250 miles, Free delivery!   WoW!

Don't wait, pick up the phone now.   Also 0 percent financing for three years is part of the deal if you want it.

Thats a brand new, $10,000 Guzzi for near half price, from one of the best Guzzi dealers in North America!
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« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2019, 04:35:25 PM »
Made the trip from Omaha to Cincy and back in two days last August (1524 miles total) to trade my Stelvio in for one of Enzo's V9 Bobbers. Best deal on a bike I have ever made. He set things up so we could do the deal and get right on the road home. Managed to put a little over 1k miles on it before the crappy weather started in early October. Lots of rain and early colder than normal temps pretty much shut things down a bit sooner than usual for here. Love the V9 as it is just what I was looking for what will most likely be my last two wheeler. :thumb:

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Re: Cadre Cycle
« Reply #44 on: December 18, 2019, 07:23:43 AM »
Made the trip from Omaha to Cincy and back in two days last August (1524 miles total) to trade my Stelvio in for one of Enzo's V9 Bobbers. Best deal on a bike I have ever made. He set things up so we could do the deal and get right on the road home. Managed to put a little over 1k miles on it before the crappy weather started in early October. Lots of rain and early colder than normal temps pretty much shut things down a bit sooner than usual for here. Love the V9 as it is just what I was looking for what will most likely be my last two wheeler. :thumb:


I got my V9 just before it got cold also, can't wait for Spring.  Cadre's is the best!
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« Reply #45 on: December 18, 2019, 11:01:31 AM »
It looks great with the Ago's and small shield.  Of course, the good weather on the day you took the photo looks great too.
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« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2019, 07:18:26 AM »
 Is that the same Enzo who lived in Seattle ten years ago or so?
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« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2019, 11:26:27 AM »
Is this pricing solely a Cadre promotion or is it a MG backed incentive program?

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« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2019, 11:36:22 AM »
As far as I think, the pricing is all CadreCycle.  I didn't ask how they are able to do it, but i did ask how many Romer's they had, Enzo told me 8.   The financing is however arranged by Piaggio.
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« Reply #49 on: December 19, 2019, 12:30:28 PM »
Is that the same Enzo who lived in Seattle ten years ago or so?

No.
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« Reply #50 on: December 20, 2019, 12:03:53 AM »
Wow, Curt. I've not seen any Roamer that looked good, 'til yours. That paint, the striping, the eagle on the front fender look great. Those shiny trombones are tres cool as well.
Certainly elegant for a Guzzi.
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« Reply #51 on: December 20, 2019, 06:22:03 AM »
i stopped by yesterday to give my holiday greetings.  plenty of pretty bikes to look at including a black 2020 eldo, still one of the finest looking bikes on the road in my opinion.  they were busy with service work and looking forward to the holiday break.  no word yet on when the "traveller" version of the V85 is expected. for those interested in a triumph t100, he has a pretty whitish pearl one up there but i don't know the specifics.
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Re: Cadre Cycle
« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2019, 06:25:46 AM »
Wow, Curt. I've not seen any Roamer that looked good, 'til yours.

And with all due respect to Curt, I disagree  :grin:




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« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2019, 07:21:54 AM »
I've known Enzo since he was a salesman at BMW of the Tristate in Cincinnati way back when.

I wish him the best with Cadre and even though I don't really buy new motorcycles (I've only bought ONE new one in my lifetime - my very first - a 1977 Yamaha 750 Special. And I traded that title for title for a '64 Panhead HD 3 months later). Yes, I enjoy working on bikes; either that or I'm a glutton for punishment!

That said - I must say that the comments here initiate the thought of having a NEW Moto Guzzi roll through my head.

Well done to Enzo for supporting the greatest motorcycle brand ever in the universe!

Oh yeah - Merry Christmas to everyone, hope Santa brings you all those Guzzi bits.

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« Reply #54 on: December 20, 2019, 08:10:13 AM »
cadre does well because they have a good business plan.  but in my experience, the model is actually an old school model.  when i started riding around 1980, most shops were relatively small (especially euro brand) and usually not in prime real estate, often in an industrial area.  there were only a few larger dealerships that sold several of the japanese brands located in prime real estate areas.  this kept overhead low for the dealers with smaller shops.  with the rise of harley in the early 90s, many of  the small shops morphed into the very expensive to maintain extravaganzas we see today.  of course, bmw and many other brands had to follow the lead and force their dealers to lease or buy huge stores.  the recession that started in 2006 demonstrated the flaw in that plan.  cincinnati no longer has a bmw dealer because of it.  the dealer where i bought a victory in 2008 went out a  year later (huge space). 
second, cadre started as a used bike repair shop.  as such, adding guzzi was not such a stretch since they already had an established business and clientele. if they lost guzzi, they would still be in business.
third, they are all in on guzzi.  it's not just a job, they have a real passion for the brand which is easy to see and it generates its own excitement.  the floor is packed with bikes, all models and colors.  i am an instant gratification type of guy, so those like me are much more likely to take one home if the one they want is right there in front of them.
fourth, they embrace selling trading and selling used bikes.  how many of us have gone to a dealer and been told to sell your current bike yourself and come back. who really wants to do that? i have received very fair money on both of the bikes i have traded with them. 
finally, the intangibles.  hard to put into words, but its the experience you get when you visit. always welcomed but no pressure ever.
i think their future looks solid. 
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« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2019, 08:26:00 AM »
cadre does well because they have a good business plan.  but in my experience, the model is actually an old school model.  when i started riding around 1980, most shops were relatively small (especially euro brand) and usually not in prime real estate, often in an industrial area.  there were only a few larger dealerships that sold several of the japanese brands located in prime real estate areas.  this kept overhead low for the dealers with smaller shops.  with the rise of harley in the early 90s, many of  the small shops morphed into the very expensive to maintain extravaganzas we see today.  of course, bmw and many other brands had to follow the lead and force their dealers to lease or buy huge stores.  the recession that started in 2006 demonstrated the flaw in that plan.  cincinnati no longer has a bmw dealer because of it.  the dealer where i bought a victory in 2008 went out a  year later (huge space). 
second, cadre started as a used bike repair shop.  as such, adding guzzi was not such a stretch since they already had an established business and clientele. if they lost guzzi, they would still be in business.
third, they are all in on guzzi.  it's not just a job, they have a real passion for the brand which is easy to see and it generates its own excitement.  the floor is packed with bikes, all models and colors.  i am an instant gratification type of guy, so those like me are much more likely to take one home if the one they want is right there in front of them.
fourth, they embrace selling trading and selling used bikes.  how many of us have gone to a dealer and been told to sell your current bike yourself and come back. who really wants to do that? i have received very fair money on both of the bikes i have traded with them. 
finally, the intangibles.  hard to put into words, but its the experience you get when you visit. always welcomed but no pressure ever.
i think their future looks solid.

Well put and nice analysis. Couldn't agree more on the dealers that say "sell your old vehicle and come back". That just strikes me as lazy, although I know that in the automotive industry the best margins are on the USED vehicles which means the dealers are reluctant to provide anything beyond wholesale pricing for your trade. Sadly they just don't make anything on new vehicles.

So yes - Enzo's model to sell and service older machines is sound.
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Re: Cadre Cycle
« Reply #56 on: December 20, 2019, 08:29:03 AM »
Wow, Curt. I've not seen any Roamer that looked good, 'til yours. That paint, the striping, the eagle on the front fender look great. Those shiny trombones are tres cool as well.
Certainly elegant for a Guzzi.
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Re: Cadre Cycle
« Reply #57 on: December 20, 2019, 08:29:47 AM »
Not sure but don't think so.

Curt - Definitely not the same Enzo. Our Enzo was working at BMW of the Tristate in Cincinnati 10 years ago, maybe even longer ago as I've lost track of the time. Not sure if he's FROM Cincy but been there a long time.

Being a Tifosi, I've always thought he had a memorable name. Can't hurt you when you're selling Italian motorcycles!

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Re: Cadre Cycle
« Reply #58 on: December 20, 2019, 08:30:08 AM »
It looks great with the Ago's and small shield.  Of course, the good weather on the day you took the photo looks great too.

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« Reply #59 on: December 20, 2019, 09:53:37 AM »
Well said Ron!  :thumb:
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