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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2014, 01:13:09 AM »
:D Larry , I don't think the fuel range is gonna be the limiting factor in how far one can ride this thing  ;D Will believe the 100 HP thing when someone puts it on a dyno .

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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2014, 06:13:04 AM »
I like it.

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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2014, 06:20:13 AM »
Midsize, huh? Funny how the standards have changed during the recent displacement wars.

Who knows, maybe a sport-touring version (ala Buell S3T) will eventually emerge from this new line.

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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2014, 06:20:50 AM »
I like it much better than those big road lizards with the skirted fenders!

Polaris is really on a roll.  The new Roadmaster, the Slingshot and now this.

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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2014, 06:25:16 AM »
I prefer the Kawasaki Drifter 800. This is their first big mistake. This a bike that no one is asking for and it cheapens the look of the current models.

Huh? Are we looking at the same bike?

I'm NOT a fan of water cooled bikes, BUT at first glance I really like this and think it has a lot going for it:


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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2014, 06:36:13 AM »
Not too keen on those forward foot controls, though.

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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2014, 06:48:40 AM »
Not too keen on those forward foot controls, though.

Yeah, me too and personally that's a deal breaker, but overall...and I can hope they'd make a mid-mount option...
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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2014, 07:08:42 AM »
Huh? Are we looking at the same bike?

I'm NOT a fan of water cooled bikes, BUT at first glance I really like this and think it has a lot going for it:



I admit that it looks good in Indian red. I didn't really care for the earlier picture with the silver paint.
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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2014, 07:16:07 AM »
The presence of an obviously well-funded and innovative motorcycle company like the new Indian is great for the motorcycle industry. It gives Harley Davidson a little heat to keep them better on their toes too.

Overall, I think we will see better machines from both companies.
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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2014, 07:20:30 AM »
Yeah, me too and personally that's a deal breaker, but overall...and I can hope they'd make a mid-mount option...

 :+1 I've heard folks say they get used to them but I never seem to adjust to them after many miles on my bud's otherwise very enjoyable 1200 Sportster.  Only thing here that might be slightly different than my bud's bike is the Indian does seem - at least from pics - to put the driver up in a more natural, upright position than the odd laid back, feet up position of my friend's Sportster.  

On another note, I think all the colors are sharp and I echo Leaf's comment earlier, regardless of whether your particular taste is for these machines, Indian Polaris seems to be on a real roll lately.  This is the first bike by them I actually could see myself some day owning.  And if you had asked me prior, I never imagined this bike would be offered at its entry price here which I think is really good and very competitively priced for what it is.

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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2014, 07:28:56 AM »
I'm also looking at this as more competition for Harley equals more choices and better bikes from both.

On bikes like the Sporty the parts are readily available to convert to mid mounts since there are mid mount models available. Sadly something like this won't be so ready unless they make it an option.
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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2014, 07:39:17 AM »
 I like it but those forward controls don't work for me and with that low seat not sure mids would work unless I put my shoes on my knees. With 100hp and 525 or so LBs it should be a fun ride.


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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2014, 07:47:06 AM »
I admit that it looks good in Indian red. I didn't really care for the earlier picture with the silver paint.

2nd that thought!  ... and obviously, I'm a sucker for nearly any bike with a brown or tan saddle.
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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2014, 08:09:25 AM »
Not bad. I like the fact that they didn't try to hide the radiator.
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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2014, 09:20:58 AM »
Yeah, I'll admit it.  I like it. 
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« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2014, 09:23:10 AM »
2nd that thought!  ... and obviously, I'm a sucker for nearly any bike with a brown or tan saddle.

I wish Brooks would get into the motorcycle saddle business.  http://www.brooksengland.com/catalogue-and-shop/saddles/

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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2014, 09:24:14 AM »
In reality, I guess this new Scout is more appropriately comparable to the long-running H-D V-rod series as presented in the current Muscle model.

Both the Scout and the VRod are 60-degree, water-cooled bikes producing 100+ HP. The H-D has more torque, much more HP at 122 and a 5 gallon tank.  The H-D also weighs about 100 pounds more and it has not been a huge seller in the US.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Motorcycles/v-rod-muscle.html#!overview

http://www.motorcycle.com/specs/harley-davidson/sport/2014/v-rod-reg/v-rod-muscle/detail.html

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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2014, 09:28:05 AM »
I like it. There is an option to move the controls rearward by 2 inches. It's not clear if that's sufficient to class them as "mid-mount" enough for my taste.

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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2014, 09:46:10 AM »
Why is everyone comparing this Sportster - sized bike to a V-rod?
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« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2014, 10:20:41 AM »
In reality, I guess this new Scout is more appropriately comparable to the long-running H-D V-rod series as presented in the current Muscle model.

The H-D also weighs about 100 pounds more and it has not been a huge seller in the US.

This is very true as per the sales numbers, but I would argue the HD was always styled in a way that IMHO was actually in direct contrast to their other more retro bikes and it seems like this did play into the sales numbers.  Or at least I think so. Whereas I always thought highly of Harley's styling touches - even if they weren't to my tastes - I always thought the VROD just looks odd.  The Scout to me is a more pleasing visual meld of old and new.

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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #51 on: August 03, 2014, 10:34:56 AM »
Why is everyone comparing this Sports ter - sized bike to a V-rod?

Because it's a water-cooled v-twin?



According to the Scout web page, you can get seat and pegs that are either further up or back; handlebar further up or down.

I would have rather seen the new Scout as a scrambler, roadster or cafe style bike, rather than this... this... um... what is it?

The styling is one part retro, one part Star Roadliner/Stratoliner (look at the swingarm), one part Confederate (the exposed frame under the seat).  I am not sure if I like it.  I think I have to see it in person before I make up my mind.

Interesting that it's being marketed as a "beginner" bike.  I don't think of something like this when I think of a beginner bike.  It's also being marketed as "lighter," with "better" balance and "greater" lean angle -- I guess as compared to Indian's larger cruisers, sure, but....
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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #52 on: August 03, 2014, 11:19:23 AM »
I like it too, and with twice the hp of the H-D Sportster 1200, only a brainwashed fool would choose the Sporty over the Indian.



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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #53 on: August 03, 2014, 11:29:21 AM »
Looking at the tank, and the whole bike overall, you can see the Victory influence. It's an okay bike to me, but then again I do like the Chief Vinatage, and even the Roadmasher.  I like the old style Indian look with the skirted fender et al. I would buy any of these Indians over anything H-D is putting out right now.  <Shrug>
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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #54 on: August 03, 2014, 11:58:29 AM »
I like it too, and with twice the hp of the H-D Sportster 1200, only a brainwashed fool would choose the Sporty over the Indian.



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And to extend it a little further, only a REALLY brainwashed fool, drunk on the "You're Not A Man If You Don't Have 100 HP" hype from the dazzling marketeers,  and ready to pose pose pose, would look at a so-called modern "Indian" in the first place.   ;-T

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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #55 on: August 03, 2014, 12:00:38 PM »
Because it's a water-cooled v-twin?

There are lots of those.

The V-Rod is a bigger bike in every dimension.  It's in a different class.

I look at the Scout and see a bike intended to blow the 900-1300 cc cruisers out of the water.  Liquid-cooled, or not.

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« Reply #56 on: August 03, 2014, 12:12:15 PM »
I like it too, and with twice the hp of the H-D Sportster 1200, only a brainwashed fool would choose the Sporty over the Indian.



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Of course, I was rather enjoying looking at the bike until you went and posted this pic with a clear view of the mufflers/exhaust; for me those are really the only things that don't work visually. 

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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #57 on: August 03, 2014, 02:00:45 PM »
Why is everyone comparing this Sportster - sized bike to a V-rod?

I know for this current owner of a Sportster and possible owner of a Scout, they're quite different based upon what I appreciate on a bike.

My focus and a huge part of my enjoyment of the Sportster is its raw, no apologies, unrefined basic architecture.

Air cooled, carb, no real concession to my comfort or suspension performance, push rods, fewer cams....

In all, the very things that I find attractive in the Sportster line should DIRECTLY keep them from selling, and yet they do, like hotcakes!

The Indian Scout? Should I buy one it'll be because it is the one I want among several/many other bikes very much like it. What's it got? It's prettier and it's 'Murican, I guess. 100 or 120 or even 150 HP in this class is a non-starter for people like me who would be just as happy using around 100% of less horse power than winning bench racing battles on stats. Length and weight for me and those like me is only an issue when its mass, length or width become burdensome so I still class it (as a buyer) with Diavels, V-Maxs and V-Rods. Regardless of direct statistical comparisons.
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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #58 on: August 03, 2014, 03:02:08 PM »
Of course, I was rather enjoying looking at the bike until you went and posted this pic with a clear view of the mufflers/exhaust; for me those are really the only things that don't work visually. 

Careful now.  Indian is clearly taking its styling cues from Moto Guzzi.



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Re: 2015 Indian Scout merged threadfest
« Reply #59 on: August 03, 2014, 03:40:29 PM »
I like it but those forward controls don't work for me and with that low seat not sure mids would work unless I put my shoes on my knees. With 100hp and 525 or so LBs it should be a fun ride.

In this style bike it's usually more a circumstance of how straight you sit and whether our not your legs are bent.

So it might still work fine.


I like it. There is an option to move the controls rearward by 2 inches. It's not clear if that's sufficient to class them as "mid-mount" enough for my taste.

Ahh the adjustability should make it work, cool.

Why is everyone comparing this Sportster - sized bike to a V-rod?

Because they are both higher HP, < 1200cc, OHC (I assume), water-cooled, 60° twins...more in common with a V-Rod then.


I like it too, and with twice the hp of the H-D Sportster 1200, only a brainwashed fool would choose the Sporty over the Indian.


TWICE? Not. A 1200cc Sporty is around 70 crank HP and easily makes 70-80 rwhp with simple stage I updates (ac, exhaust, mapping).
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