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monkey see monkey crash
nsmith:
Last week Sunday I on my Breva 1100 and a friend on his Suzuki 1500 doing some spirited riding. When I got to the next corner I look back and no friend. So I head back to find him walking but the bike is belly up on a field approach. Long story but today he said "if is was anyone else it would have been a lot worse" HE WAS FOLLWING ME... If it were me I would not have messed up my bike. So how do I get him to understand it was his lack of ability that caused him to loose it. or more to the point, how do I get him to ride his own ride and let me have my fun on the curves without simply getting him all pissed off. I can come off as a bit brash at times but this guy doesn't think he did anything wrong.
Thanks Neil
fotoguzzi:
enroll him in a riding class.
Lannis:
Gotta pick your riding partners carefully, that's all.
I'm a fairly conservative rider, I don't want to die doing something stupid like hammering through a blind turn faster than I can stop if a stalled truck or gravel drift suddenly appears.
So if I'm riding in front, I'll be sure I'm riding with a guy who will either be happy riding at my speed, or dropping off the back, or go ahead and YOU take the lead if you like riding faster.
And if I'm riding in back, and
1) He's riding slower than I like, I kick back and enjoy the roses and I just follow.
2) He's riding at the same speed I would, I enjoy the ride like I would riding by myself.
3) He's riding a LITTLE faster than what I like, I tighten up and take advantage of the fact that he's in front, and if something's lurking there where I can't see and he finds it first, I'll know when I see the oil sump, transmission, and tires of his bike and I'll have an extra bit of a second to compensate.
4) He's riding a LOT faster than what I like, I let him go, and he can either see that I've dropped off the back and slow down, or he can hold his speed and we'll meet up at the next gas stop.
That way, it's ALL good!
Lannis
oldbike54:
If he is riding one of those 1500 CC Intruders he has no business even attempting to hang with any Guzzi built since 1967 . Seriously , those things are a pig on roller skates . Not much you can do about someone having a false idea of their riding abilities , except let them scare the fool out of themselves a couple of times. Well , maybe a good riding school like FG suggested , but I have known that to create an even more over inflated sense of skill in some riders .
Dusty
not-fishing:
35 years ago I rode with two friends to Napa from Folsom. We took the Lake Berryessa route.
I was riding a Honda 400F that I had Cafe'd (Ceriani front springs, Koni rears, Grizzly Exhaust, K& N's, Dyno tuned, rearsets, Clipons and Don Vesco 1/2 fairing), my buddies were following in a Honda 550F and Triumph Bonneville. I was clearly the low man on the totem with the little 400.
After the lake the 55 mph posted road gets tight. I just started shifting my weight and weaving the corners. I stopped shortly after the first tight set and waited, and waited, and waited. After five minutes I turned around with a feeling of Dread.
When I found them they were picking themselves off the ground. Nothing was hurt other than Ego's.
After than I learned to be more attentive to who was following me. and the word got around the Restaurant that we all worked at not to "chase the little 400 Cafe through the corners"
I learned not to allow most regular riders to "follow" me.
Mark
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