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Just an FYI for anyone with a "no title" bike. On June 15th, I sent to Saint's to obtain a title for my '74 850-T, following the procedure on their website: https://www.saintsengine.com/services/title-service/ . This afternoon, I received a TN title ready to be transferred into my name. Now I can go ahead with my "850-S2" project.
Hey Charlie, What was the cost of this service?thanks!
Nicely done Charlie and a reasonable price for the service. I register bikes in VT but pre - a vin check was required. Now I think they are not. I still have to pay about 6% sales tax. The registration can be flipped back to Mass when it comes up for renewal.
The VT process is a small bit of legwork but at a saving and its interesting to go through at least once to say been there done that and more importantly it works. It also makes once undesirable bikes (bikes of a certain age with no titles) viable. You've just got to figure the registration/title process into the offer Pre-- when going through VT a VIN verification was based on a CC's. I think anything under 399cc (?) didn't need anything over did. It was easy. Take the bike or a VIN tracing to any local police department and ask then to run it through NCIS database to verify it is not stolen. The Guzzi I did it with had a less than 17 digit VIN and was not even in the system. The officer asked about the VIN I explained that the 17 digit VIN was not standardized until 19XX. He's said its doesn't eve show up in the system but it is also not coming back as stolen. He signed the paper and off I went. Got home filled out the VD-119 online form that a fillable/printable wrote a check and mailed it off. 11 days later I got my valid VT registration in my name along with a valid tag. Total price was a bit over less than $175/$200 (bike was valued at $1,500)If I lived in a state where the tag does not have to match residence I could have just paid VT yearly for new tag but in PA the if you are a PA resident your vehicles must also be registered in PA. So I took the title to the DMV paid tax on the declared value of the bike then the title fee. Walked out of the DMV with a clean clear PA title in my name. You pay:6% tax on the KBB book value or $1,500 whatever is greater. Call and ask the VT value before you write the check. VT DMV is very helpful and friendly. $48 registration fee BOS (you can write a BOS to yourself. VT does not care its simply a statement saying the vehicle was sold) - https://dmv.vermont.gov/sites/dmv/files/documents/VT-005-Bill_of_Sale_ODS.pdfRegistration/tax renewal form. Fill out and two copies will print out. Both get mailed to VT DMV. One will come back as your temp registration card the other stays VT DMV - https://dmv.vermont.gov/sites/dmv/files/documents/VD-119-Vehicle_Registration_Tax_Title_0.pdf VIN Verification form - https://dmv.vermont.gov/sites/dmv/files/documents/VT-010-VIN_HIN_Verification.pdf
The $$ savings wasn't worth the extra "legwork" to me. Then as "Michael" on the Loopframe Guzzi Facebook Group pointed out: Also transferring a title is something the DMV does everyday, so is no big deal. When you show up with a Vermont registration it leads to lots of calling the manager over, debating whether or not they can do this (even though they did it last time) come back tomorrows, etc.
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