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I have developed the habit of balancing the bare (tireless) wheels with a somewhat permanent weight. Most tires I have found are "close" to being balanced so mounting and balancing the tire usually takes an oz or so. (sometimes less)I'm definitely in the "should balance" camp. I believe it to be needed and should be done especially if you are a "high-speed type or going for a track day run. (Also long-distance at freeway speeds).My .02c:-)
I am amazed that no one on this topic has mentioned Dyna Beads for tubeless tires. Forget balancing with weights. I started using Dyna Beads years ago and have never looked back. And no....I have never noticed any wear inside the tubeless tire because of them.[/size][/size][/size]
I bought a '72 Eldo in 2014 from the original owner, he had installed dyna beads to balance the wheels/tires. I figure the dyna beads worked well because I never noticed any odd or annoying vibration that I could attribute to wheel balance. However, every time I went to check tire pressure the schrader valve would not seat & seal unless I added air to blow debris off of the valve seat so it would reseal. I figure over time those little beads just got smaller & smaller until they were the perfect size to clog the schrader during a routine tire pressure check. Anyway, I just replaced the tires & tubes on that bike so, no more beads for me.
Before installing a new tire on the cast rear wheel of my V50 III, I decided I'd check the balance of the bare wheel. The wheel runs true and had no cush drive rubbers or valve stem in it. I was quite surprised to find that it was out of balance by nearly 2 ounces!
Those damn dyna beads.Clear thinking individuals swear by them, but I cannot understand the physics…..
FWIW....I Pulled the rear wheel off my '87 LMIV to replace the worn Dunlop Arrowmax GT501 with a new Bridgestone Battlax BT46.- The "old tire" and wheel assembly had 21grams of weight.- I removed the old tire and weights, the wheel (without tire) took 15grams to balance the wheel.- I then installed the new BT46 and had to add another 20grams to balance, for a grand total of 35g to completely balance the wheel & tire assembly. So, the wheel had 15g at one location and 20g at another location.....30-40 degrees apart I figure.Curiousity got to me....- I removed the 35g of weight I had installed (15g to balance wheel & 20g to further balance after installing tire) and proceeded to re-balance.- To re-balance the wheel with tire installed required 28g...in one location (radii?).Is a 7g difference meaningful? IDK.So, when I go to do the front tire replacement next week, am I going to balance the bare wheel & check/add weight with new tire installed or balance the wheel & tire as one assembly? IDK but I'm kinda leaning toward balancing tire & wheel as one assembly.As one of the guy's said at one of the rally's "Who cares?"
Hey Phil,Ok, I don't understand.....So, I mark the heavy spot (bottom) & light spot (top) of the wheel, they'll be 180 degrees apart....in my mind!!?? Where do I position the yellow/red dot? And then, I balance the whole assembly...right? Thanks,Art
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