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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #90 on: September 10, 2021, 05:19:38 PM »
Who's gonna be their 1st Guinea Pig, Do they have chips to make it work? No pics of it actually going down the road, none I seen.

Sorry it may be full of issue's that your warranty will fix, I'm glad not to work on it and go w/older more reliable.

Nobody here. It's going to cost more than $8500! 🤣😂

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« Reply #91 on: September 10, 2021, 05:40:23 PM »
I do like it. But I bought an air-cooled bike for a reason.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #92 on: September 10, 2021, 05:41:20 PM »
Who's gonna be their 1st Guinea Pig, Do they have chips to make it work? No pics of it actually going down the road, none I seen.

Sorry it may be full of issue's that your warranty will fix, I'm glad not to work on it and go w/older more reliable.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #93 on: September 10, 2021, 05:48:06 PM »
QUOTE: Nobody here. It's going to cost more than $8500! 🤣😂 -AJ

Oh yes...much more than $8,500.... :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh: The MSRP will be more like $17,000+++
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #94 on: September 10, 2021, 05:53:41 PM »
I put my deposit on the V85 before it was built.
Issue I have now though, is that I am getting too old to wear out a Norge, V85 and a V100 before I die.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #95 on: September 10, 2021, 06:08:54 PM »
I like it.  I'm a fan of sport touring bikes, so with some bags it would fit the bill.  For some reason I think the green and silver looks better on this bike that the others.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #96 on: September 10, 2021, 06:10:08 PM »






At least it's not as ugly as a Multistrada.  Not as pretty as my 939 Supersport.  If only this bike had come out 5 years earlier.  I still want to ride one.  I talked to my local dealer, he's not gotten any word about it but seems happy to learn about it after I mentioned it. 

Do we need active aerodynamics?  That flummoxed me.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #97 on: September 10, 2021, 06:24:30 PM »
I personally think it is very good looking. Not some behemoth. I'll bet the green color scheme is a knockout up close and personal. Sadly, I've aged out, and have my "wind up" bike, or I'd be a player.

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« Reply #98 on: September 10, 2021, 06:25:51 PM »
QUOTE: Nobody here. It's going to cost more than $8500! 🤣😂 -AJ

Oh yes...much more than $8,500.... :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh: The MSRP will be more like $17,000+++

that will make the v85tt feel more affordable.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #99 on: September 10, 2021, 06:41:03 PM »
I do wonder how much heat the rider is going to feel.  Remember, the liquid cooling is so that the engine passes Euro Emissions,  All the heat emitted by the radiator and the pipes put the side like that. 

I will definitely check it out when it arrives at Sloans.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #100 on: September 10, 2021, 06:42:55 PM »
QUOTE: Nobody here. It's going to cost more than $8500! 🤣😂 -AJ

Oh yes...much more than $8,500.... :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh: The MSRP will be more like $17,000+++  $13500.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #101 on: September 10, 2021, 06:55:52 PM »
I think I’ve found the replacement for the Triumph Trophy! Definitely future #goals! I personally love the looks
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« Reply #102 on: September 10, 2021, 07:36:13 PM »
Nobody here. It's going to cost more than $8500! 🤣😂

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #103 on: September 10, 2021, 07:41:03 PM »
I like it. With any luck the tank will be bigger than 15ltr and around 220kg's

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #104 on: September 10, 2021, 07:42:02 PM »
Not when you can buy EV's for $3000.

Guess that must be a monetary representation of what they are actually worth to most people.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #105 on: September 10, 2021, 07:48:28 PM »
I'm excited.  The reason I'm here is that I'm looking to get a sport-tourer next, and a Norge was a contender.
If this (a) isn't too frightfully heavy, (b) can be had with hard bags, and (c) doesn't have any major design flaws, it will be a very strong possibility.
(And to those who likened it to the Motus -- I liked the Motus, and it was on my shortlist until the company failed.  I testrode one, and that was one hell of a bike.)

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« Reply #106 on: September 10, 2021, 07:50:22 PM »
One photo I saw, looked like the starter, and alternator, are just behind the block, on the right side. And to the rear of the transmission on that right side was a round housing that looked like a wet clutch. Interesting to see it up close.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #107 on: September 10, 2021, 07:56:22 PM »
I kind of like it.  However, being on fixed income, I'd be more inclined to pick up a nice, rollered, low mileage Griso 8vSE.  Plus, like Chuck, I believe I too am aged-out.

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« Reply #108 on: September 10, 2021, 08:21:10 PM »
How GuzziSteve sounds to people under 70.

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« Reply #109 on: September 10, 2021, 08:22:42 PM »
This is the 'official' video from the MG website: https://youtu.be/9vgM1pjO0gQ
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« Reply #110 on: September 10, 2021, 08:25:24 PM »
I don't like this composition at all- poorly done, makes me think of the HD VRod headlight limp "penis" thing...  there's too much visual noise and lack of assertive detail that I don't like it. It looks better in red because many details are less obvious, but those details are still there.  I won't be buying one, so my opinion is just my opinion.  Give me one and I'll sell it immediately to buy a few older bikes.

The bigger issue to me (as an artist and as someone who is more interested in MG history than current market trends) is why this special anniversary release focuses upon the 1957 V8 motorcycles (zinc chromate green, argent & brown) than the 1969 Record bikes which were built by Lino Tonti to actually demonstrate what the new VTwin engine platform could do and then did become.  The V8 was a special bike.   But it died a quick death on the racetrack as a novelty & NEVER made it to production.

By comparison, the two 1969 Record bikes gave birth to every VTwin MG sport bike ever made. That is real creds and is why MG is still alive today.  Period.  From the museum-




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IMHO- This new V100 bike is a play on ignorant new buyers.  Give credit where credit is due.  Make a real affordable V8 MG street bike in these colors (imagine if Piaggio did a limited run of them as a marketing play- hot damn!) or do a VTwin that isn't a pander to the V8. I like Dave's V7 850 but how many times are they going to rehash the same idea in the same colors?  They should have quit while they were ahead.

People here complain about HD pandering retro stuff.  This is a big sellout imho, just like the first Loop that was a blatant ripoff of a HD ElectraGlide.   No surprise they're going to close down the original MG factory museum & open a new bling shop.  Bet they'll be selling every doodad imaginable, just like HD corporate forced legit old dillygaf dealerships to do back in the 90's....

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #111 on: September 10, 2021, 08:29:26 PM »

Do we need active aerodynamics?  That flummoxed me.

I think along with the adjustable screen it will be variable wind/weather protection.

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« Reply #112 on: September 10, 2021, 08:57:47 PM »
Have it washed and brought to my tent.

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« Reply #113 on: September 10, 2021, 09:05:52 PM »
This is a big sellout imho, just like the first Loop that was a blatant ripoff of a HD ElectraGlide.   

Huh?  :shocked: Very little resemblance between the two, far from a "ripoff".




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« Reply #114 on: September 10, 2021, 09:21:24 PM »
Don’t worry Clifford, no body is going to give you one.  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #115 on: September 10, 2021, 09:33:05 PM »
Huh?  :shocked: Very little resemblance between the two, far from a "ripoff".






The V700 looks curiously more like an Electraglide than a Falcone, especially if you enlarge that square toolbox to better mimic the saddlebag of the HD.  Not saying it's good or bad, just that it is.  In 1966, MG was deep in receivership and needing to survive.  You do what works.  Look at those two pics as posted.  nearly all details are either enlarged or diminished in place- even the number of design elements.  The V700 were also marketing heavily into the USA market, which apparently had little interest in a Falcone. Not saying it's good or bad, just that it is.
 
Maybe it was just the same coincidental leap in technology that BMW did when moving from the /2 earls fork platform in 68-70 (the few telescopic front end /2 1969 bikes aside) by advancing the MG platform from the Falcone/scissor suspension to the modern shocks frame.  Still, they look a lot alike.  MG reportedly chose the lime gold green for the V7 Sport simply because of market survey research results.   It's not hard to think the put the same method to work to decide how to package to new V twin platform.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #116 on: September 10, 2021, 09:34:34 PM »
IMHO- This new V100 bike is a play on ignorant new buyers.

Unless I missed it (definitely possible) I fail to see where you supported this assertion.

Would you care to connect the dots for someone as dense as myself?
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« Reply #117 on: September 10, 2021, 09:53:03 PM »
Unless I missed it (definitely possible) I fail to see where you supported this assertion.

Would you care to connect the dots for someone as dense as myself?

V8 vs Vtwin.   A handful of special race bikes vs how many(?) vtwins production bikes based upon the Vtwin platform that saved MG based upon the new engine & then new frame by Lino Tonti that was a direct result of the MG receivership edict to their celebrity engineer to prove it.  He did.  We win.

Maybe it's just me.  But the V8 didn't save MG.  It was briefly relevant a decade prior but didn't save the company then and didn't come to the rescue to save the company from receivership between circa 1957 and 1966. The new V7 engine platform did, which is likely why everything under the MG moon in recent years has been branded as V7.   

It's the ultimate AMF metaphor.  I have no ill feeling because I like my AMF HD stuff as much as I like my post 1966 MG stuff. But it's convenient to pretend it didn't happen.  MG did what they had to and survived. Very cool.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #118 on: September 10, 2021, 10:00:53 PM »
V8 vs Vtwin.   A handful of special race bikes vs how many(?) vtwins production bikes based upon the Vtwin platform that saved MG based upon the new engine & then new frame by Lino Tonti that was a direct result of the MG receivership edict to their celebrity engineer to prove it.  He did.  We win.

Maybe it's just me.  But the V8 didn't save MG.  It was briefly relevant a decade prior but didn't save the company then and didn't come to the rescue to save the company from receivership between circa 1957 and 1966. The new V7 engine platform did, which is likely why everything under the MG moon in recent years has been branded as V7.   

It's the ultimate AMF metaphor.  I have no ill feeling because I like my AMF HD stuff as much as I like my post 1966 MG stuff. But it's convenient to pretend it didn't happen.  MG did what they had to and survived. Very cool.


Ahhh is all of this based on the damn color scheme? Or some other tie to that model?

The model that no one who is not already DEEPLY steeped in Guzzi history would ever have a clue about?

Yes new buyers may be "ignorant" of it, but how can you possibly "play" to something that no one knows or gives a crap about?!?

As someone who has owned and cared about Guzzis for about two decades I didn't know, nor would I have connected or given a crap about it

I guess I'm saying it's ok to draw upon a distant or even vague connection to the past for inspiration without it needing to be so direct to be legitimate.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #119 on: September 10, 2021, 10:03:04 PM »
 I can see this is going to be a long and contentious thread. Any guesses how many pages before anybody sees a bike?

 

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