V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest

[blackcat]

new v100 video, lots of sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDQ8Kpbqdvs

Funny video with the airplane but it's cool to see the bike being ridden.

[TimmyTheHog]

Funny video with the airplane but it's cool to see the bike being ridden.

I am guessing they are paying respect to the Guzzi Homage as the eagle of Guzzi came from the Italian air force as one of the founder of the Guzzi was a pilot.

[rustygman]

That looks and sounds fantastic and what a spec. Sadly way out of my price range but I hope Guzzi do well with this bike.

[bad Chad]

This ones got much more real world sound.   Posted by Stevex on another thread, but I thought it belongs here too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDQ8Kpbqdvs

[TimmyTheHog]

Yup it is a wet clutch!

I am REALLY curious on how the new clutch system works.

[pebra]

We haven't seen weight figures yet????

[janguzzi]

Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello | Technologically Advanced and one-of-a-kind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDQ8Kpbqdvs

[Johncolleary]

I like it.  Hope they make a stelvio version.

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Yup it is a wet clutch!

I am REALLY curious on how the new clutch system works.

wet sump engine and a wet clutch... I still dont think they share lube tho.

[jwinwi]

wet sump engine and a wet clutch... I still dont think they share lube tho.

That's Italian for hydraulically actuated clutch - no cable. My guess is they DO share the same lube.

[Iron Cross Junction]

We haven't seen weight figures yet????

Waiting for those, too.

Bill

[Dirk_S]

The swap of drive from right to left should help those rear tire changes sans-center stand.

[Kev m]

The swap of drive from right to left should help those rear tire changes sans-center stand.

?!? 

[Dirk_S]

?!? 

The bike lies toward the left when propped by its kickstand. This makes installing a rear wheel a bit aggravating on the bikes where the drive is on the right, because the wheel easily wants to slide right off the splines (thanks for nothing, gravity). Even when a bike is on its center stand the wheel can still tend to dangle off. But with the splines on the left side now, the wheel should be able to rest on the splines when you're trying to get all the spacers aligned for the axle to pop through.

...or am I the only one that found that process to be bear?

Shoot... I am, aren't I.

[Kev m]

The bike lies toward the left when propped by its kickstand. This makes installing a rear wheel a bit aggravating on the bikes where the drive is on the right, because the wheel easily wants to slide right off the splines (thanks for nothing, gravity). Even when a bike is on its center stand the wheel can still tend to dangle off. But with the splines on the left side now, the wheel should be able to rest on the splines when you're trying to get all the spacers aligned for the axle to pop through.

...or am I the only one that found that process to be bear?

Shoot... I am, aren't I.

I can't say I've ever bothered trying to remove/install a wheel on a bike that wasn't:

* On a Centerstand
* On a lift/jack

I can't think of a single time I tried in on a sidestand?!?!

[Dirk_S]

I can't say I've ever bothered trying to remove/install a wheel on a bike that wasn't:

* On a Centerstand
* On a lift/jack

I can't think of a single time I tried in on a sidestand?!?!

You’d have to use a jack of some sort to prop the rear right side up while doing it. It’s a popular topic for the off-road and ADV crowd who wish to avoid added weight of a center stand. Some make their own, others skip on creativity and go for a product like the Snap Jack:

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/tirox-snapjack-v2?gclid=CjwKCAiAv_KMBhAzEiwAs-rX1E0ZUOQRnIwh2QvoD8lMSJivnC-eeHztReZCeXG0D9vloDmI45bGVxoCoUIQAvD_BwE&sku_id=1788167

I modified a piece of aluminum crutch similar to this fella’s version:




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…and have used it for general propping of the rear, but realized too late that it would cause me a ruptured artery from stress if I tried to change a tire with this over a center stand due to the drive splines being on the right side (elevated side).

[egschade]

You’d have to use a jack of some sort to prop the rear right side up while doing it. It’s a popular topic for the off-road and ADV crowd who wish to avoid added weight of a center stand. Some make their own, others skip on creativity and go for a product like the Snap Jack:
>SNIP<

Have used a SnapJack on more than one occasion but not to remove a rear wheel. Works well and would be stable enough for wheel removal if placed correctly.

[rocker59]

 

Dogwalker,

What's the latest from the streets of Mandello ??

[rocker59]

at that price it would have to have the full monty active ohlins setup front and rear.. plus a full set of nice factory luggage and a centerstand or some heated grips or something!  I would probably bite on that, I know that full ohlins suite bumps the price of the Aprillias and Ducatis that have it by $3.5-4000!  I deff dont want to pay that much, I am hoping it's more like $14-15k- which I am assuming is more of the range. I dont actually care about the computer-controlled suspension, but I will take it if it's the only configuration offered.  The deposit isnt non-refundable or anything and although I indicated a green one, I'm sure they will apply it to whatever v100 they can get.  I dislike the looks of the red one enough that I would probably get it painted if I was forced to settle on that one over the cost of the Ohlins kit.

They have not shown any bags for it yet, and it looks like nowhere to attach a centerstand-- with that hollow rear axle I am betting the will assume ppl use a pit stand or whatever.
Looks like the cruise will be standard based off the switchgear, so luggage, center stand, and maybe heated grips are about the only accessories I could possibly need or want. I dont much go for low seats, engine guards, or aux lights... cant think of anything else they might offer to sweeten the deal at a $18k price point!

So I guess the short answer is no I wouldnt be happy with $17,999 as pictured...  If it had fully active ohlins array, bags and a centerstand and cruise and heated grips I would probably do it, but I wouldnt be thrilled about it.

I saw a comment of 15,500 Euro, so we may be looking at my previously guessed price, here in The USA.

I'll bet the Ohlins-equipped bike starts at $17,990 USD.

Anxious to see more from the show.

[LowRyter]

I'd guess the base model will come in under $12k. 

[mojohand]

I didn't buy the KTM Grand Duke GT because it didn't have the ability to mount a center stand.

I cannot fathom a sport-touring bike without a center stand. Seems small to some, but it's a deal-killer for me. Too many times having to fix a flat on the side of the road = a need for a center stand.

YMMV.

Really. Really. Sad. 

[Vagrant]

I sincerly hope I have to eat these words, but, there is no way an E5 bike sounds that good stock.

[bad Chad]

Just asking, as to date in my 38 years of street riding I have never had a tire issue.   If you're running tubeless, you can generally fix it on the bike, no wheel removal needed, unless bigger issues.   If that all makes sense, then as nice as a center stand is, why would it be a deal breaker?

[PJPR01]

Perhaps a center stand will be an aftermarket option...one hopes.  Either that, or one will have to buy another chock.  I wonder if my V11 rear wheel stand would work on the new V100...

[Rebochi]

wet sump engine and a wet clutch... I still dont think they share lube tho.

  The engine oil is shared with the Transmission. The Mandello uses the same clutch/ engine/gearbox layout as a Honda CX 500/650 or a BMW 1200LC.

[lucky phil]

Just asking, as to date in my 38 years of street riding I have never had a tire issue.   If you're running tubeless, you can generally fix it on the bike, no wheel removal needed, unless bigger issues.   If that all makes sense, then as nice as a center stand is, why would it be a deal breaker?

Same here. A centre stand is a nice to have thing and one of my bikes has one but it's a mile away from a deal breaker for me esp as you point out with modern day tubeless tyres. Back in the 50/60's it was highly desirable even a necessity as is demonstrated by triumphs etc having a front wheel stand as well. You'd be lucky indeed to ride 5 thousand KLMs back then without a puncture which meant wheel off and tyre irons out. maybe the hint is in the category the new bike fits......Spotrs Tourer not Tourer  

Ciao

[lazlokovacs]

centre stand schmenter stand

whats the deal with the long swingarm but no reactive rod?

If there are 115 bhp getting anywhere near the rear wheel there's gonna be some torque reaction for sure

am I missing something?

[paul in rochester]

The green/silver scheme made me think of a Benelli.

Not a bad thing, mind you.


Paul

[OldMojo]

  The engine oil is shared with the Transmission. The Mandello uses the same clutch/ engine/gearbox layout as a Honda CX 500/650 or a BMW 1200LC.

I suppose that's the end of using regular auto oil 

Let the oil threads begin anew!

[kingoffleece]

Maybe the center stand crisis can be put on HOLD until we have all the info?  Perhaps?