V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest

[bad Chad]

I found this posted on DueRuote, by Carlo Pettinato,  the following a a google trans.  Some new key info dropped in here and there.

In 2013 Moto Guzzi launched the California 1400, an all-new bike that replaced the good old 1100 model powered by the 1,064 cc engine. Basically, the Mandello cruiser was repositioned on the market, rising to the status of an elite "premium". A few years later, with the Bellagio's exit from the lists, the 935.6 cc engine retired, the last direct descendant of the beloved V2 family of the "big" series that had written the history of the eagle since the late 1960s. In fact, over the past decade an objective gap has gradually been created in the range of engines: there was the very successful V7 series based on the "small" engine and there was the maxi California 1400. There was no longer a nice "thousand", cubage considered by many to be perfect for a twin cylinder. Of course, the arrival of the V85 TT and the launch of the new generation of the V7, enhanced not only in the displacement (increased to 853 cc), have partially filled this void, but finally today this new 1,042 cc "compact block" arrives! And we say “finally” as Italians, as fans of the brand, as motorcyclists. Like the many readers who often write to us "but why doesn't Moto Guzzi make a nice thousand?". So, putting ourselves in our other role as journalists in constant contact with the top management of the great motorcycle manufacturers, we can say that we have often asked the same question in Moto Guzzi, on various occasions. And the answer, more or less, has always been: "You don't do it overnight". And we understand this very well, because we know the commitment, especially with an impending Euro6. Today that day has arrived and we see in the V100 Mandello the first model of a platform that over the years will be populated with nude, sporting and touristic interpretations, as in the days of California, Le Mans and SP 1000 of the 80s. Welcome, “compact block ".

Lorenzo Cascioli

There is only one centenary, and in Mandello del Lario they have decided to celebrate it properly: EICMA 2021, Moto Guzzi presents the V100 Mandello. It is a blend of tradition and modernity, but this V100 looks to the future, and from the past it brings only what fortifies it. Always dominating the scene, the 90 ° transverse V-twin, but redesigned from scratch.

Classic architecture, modern content. The Mandello is the first Guzzi to exploit the liquid-cooled platform known as the “compact block”. A totally new engine, and as the name implies, more compact than the air-cooled unit of the V85 TT. But the V100 is much more than its new V90 engine. It is the first Guzzi to adopt electronics with inertial platform, cornering ABS, semi-active suspension, quickshifter and more; but it is not just that either. The V100 is the first motorcycle in the world with adaptive aerodynamics. That's right: adaptive aerodynamics.

To learn more about this highly anticipated novelty, we visited Noale: which everyone knows as the Aprilia house, but which is also home to the research and development department for all the Piaggio Group motorcycles.

Diego Airoli, motorcycle product marketing manager
From the first to the last screw
Diego Arioli, product marketing manager for Aprilia and Moto Guzzi, welcomes us. “Mandello immediately posed itself as a great challenge. Immediately after the launch and initial success of the V85 TT, new input came from the top of the company. None other than the centenary bike, celebrated in 2021, which summarized 100 years of history but projected Guzzi into its second century of life, towards the future. An innovative bike, which did not enter into the wake of predefined segments, capable of surprising and bringing to light new technologies. A tough but challenging task, being able to experiment is always satisfying. First we asked ourselves what kind of bike we would like to create. It is no secret that the market is now hot when it comes to crossover and maxienduro, less so if you look at more traditional touring bikes. And the goal we set ourselves was this, to reverse the trend and bring new vitality to a segment that does not shine today. We therefore tried to combine the dynamic qualities of a roadster with the comfort and travel ability of a real tourer. Apparently antithetical characteristics, we wanted a bike with a slim front but at the same time protective for the rider. This is how the idea of ​​adaptive aerodynamics was born, which takes the form of two flaps - flaps - on the sides of the tank and an adjustable windscreen electronically even while driving. V100 is for us a transversal product, interesting both for the mature customer, perhaps nostalgic, who is looking for old standards in a motorcycle that he is fond of, and for the young user, who looks above all to fun, but does not disdain a comfortable motorcycle on distances. major. V100 is not compromised, V100 is a balance between two seemingly opposite worlds. His propensity to travel is not a minus, it is a plus. With this in mind, numerous accessories will be available such as an oversized windshield and large side cases. This adaptability does not detract from her in terms of dynamic qualities, this was clear to us from the very beginning of development. "

Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello: the eagle spreads its wings
On the other hand, Adriano Magherini, head of the engine project, talks to us about mechanics. “The reference to Moto Guzzi history is more evident here than elsewhere, the 90 ° transverse V architecture is now a trademark, but the unit that moves the V100 is new from A to Z. Compared to our traditional solution, the heads are rotated 90 °, so we have the intake above and the exhaust on the lower side. This helps us to improve the regularity of combustion at low revs, with all due respect to the most hardened Guzzi riders who will not digest the different curve of the manifolds. The transmission has also been redesigned from scratch, with the clutch in an oil bath and the slipper system which are new for Guzzi. Compared to the existing engines, this 'compact block', as we called it to differentiate it from the 'small block' of the V85 TT, is significantly smaller, the longitudinal dimensions are -103 mm, and more powerful. "

Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello: the eagle spreads its wings
Adaptive aerodynamics was a challenge for R&D Guzzi not only from a technical point of view in the strict sense, but also from that of aesthetic integration into the bike's silhouette. “V100 put us to the test because we had to and wanted to honor certain classic stylistic features of the brand, but putting them in a whole that had nothing nostalgic about it. In this, the modern solutions that we have integrated into the V100 have helped us ”tells us Giulio Rossi Paccani, representing the style center. "We had to take everything into account in defining the muscularity of the bike, as well as in that of the volumes, which cannot fail to consider the integration of the rider. Many bikes are beautiful when seen alone, but they are badly proportioned once the driver gets on the saddle ”.

Francesco Marchetta is the project leader of Mandello, the one who had to pull the strings of everything and put together idea and technique, style and concreteness, notoriously work departments that attract each other like two poles of the same sign ... "We started from a completely white sheet, ideas of the most disparate were brought to the table, they were really heard of all colors. Converting them into practice was not easy but above all from an aerodynamic point of view, the most innovative in absolute terms, we are satisfied with the result: the bike remains visually compact while offering air protection superior to that of a classic roadster. For us the result on the scale is also remarkable, we are between 20 and 25 kilos on top of an extreme naked like the Tuono V4 ”.

THE NEW COURSE
To say that the V100 Mandello is completely new is an understatement, we understand it. It is more correct to frame it as a motorcycle that marks a break with the Moto Guzzi past. The arrival in the dealerships is expected in October, as well as the official presentation to the press, but Dueruote had the privilege of getting on the V100 S (the most prized set-up, the one with semi-active Öhlins suspension and other amenities) in a pre -series, in fact a prototype at 99% of development: definitive in the livery - net of details such as the color of the handlebars - as well as in the technical and electronic equipment.


Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello: the eagle spreads its wings
A LONG SECTION OF HIGHWAY AND MANY BENDS ON THE VENETIAN MOUNTAINS: NOTHING BAD AS A FIRST CONTACT
LET'S START THE ENGINE
As promised, it is a comfortable bike, the right balance between sportiness and comfort, with a very neutral riding position: not upright like on a crossover but not even loaded on the front end like on a more extreme naked. The protagonist of the matter is always him, the 90 ° V in the middle. Right from the start it involves you with its gruff but at the same time peaceful and polite sound. The tonality is that unmistakable of the V-twin, with the shakes that are always there to keep you company at a minimum.
THE NEW COURSE
To say that the V100 Mandello is completely new is an understatement, we understand it. It is more correct to frame it as a motorcycle that marks a break with the Moto Guzzi past. The arrival in the dealerships is expected in October, as well as the official presentation to the press, but Dueruote had the privilege of getting on the V100 S (the most prized set-up, the one with semi-active Öhlins suspension and other amenities) in a pre -series, in fact a prototype at 99% of development: definitive in the livery - net of details such as the color of the handlebars - as well as in the technical and electronic equipment.


Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello: the eagle spreads its wings
A LONG SECTION OF HIGHWAY AND MANY BENDS ON THE VENETIAN MOUNTAINS: NOTHING BAD AS A FIRST CONTACT
LET'S START THE ENGINE
As promised, it is a comfortable bike, the right balance between sportiness and comfort, with a very neutral riding position: not upright like on a crossover but not even loaded on the front end like on a more extreme naked. The protagonist of the matter is always him, the 90 ° V in the middle. Right from the start it involves you with its gruff but at the same time peaceful and polite sound. The tonality is that unmistakable of the V-twin, with the shakes that are always there to keep you company at a minimum.

HOW ADAPTIVE AERODYNAMICS WORKS
What about adaptive aerodynamics? Flaps and windshield follow different activation logics. The former are linked to speed and riding mode: in Travel mode they open at 60 km / h, in Rain mode they are always open, in Road and Sport they are always closed. The windshield, on the other hand, is managed by the rider alone, with millimeter adjustments even while on the move. The automatic movement of the flaps when the threshold speed is reached is really impressive, in a positive sense of course. There you understand that the bike thinks, even regardless of who rides it in a certain sense. It seems like a small step towards the future. And when the eagle opens its wings, the benefit is tangible, especially by doing tests at a bit more sustained speed, around 100 per hour. Going from fully closed to fully open definitely changes the air pressure on the body, which is discharged especially in the hips area, thanks to the flaps, and on the chest and shoulders, with the plexi. It is clear that it is basically a roadster and not a fairing, but in this way the deck is longer. And the goal of obtaining a bike with reduced dimensions but that is able to offer protection when you want to make the road is centered.


Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello: the eagle spreads its wings
THE PRICE
Nice shot this Mandello. But not just for what it is as a motorcycle, more for what it represents. Willingness to open up, innovate, still act as a technological reference a century after its birth. All elements not taken for granted for a house that could sit on its 100-year history and aim to cultivate generations of loyal customers. With a starting price that will be around 15,000 euros, the V100, which will be like all the Guzzi cars proudly produced in Mandello del Lario, is proposing itself to a whole new slice of the market.

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[guzzisteve]

No spy shots of testing means it's all BS, obsolete before released. Lots of talk & no bike.

[Cam3512]

Latest from Jim Hamlin.  They should start trickling in this fall.  He has all the two-colored upgraded models pre sold.  Has some reds coming as well, one is a demo.  So POSSIBLY - Oct-Dec 2022.

[bad Chad]

Oh Steve, you of little faith!  Click the link at the bottom of the post, there’s a poop load of new pics.

[Dirk_S]

The thing looks like it will enjoy carving canyons. A little top heavy though.

[jrt]

It's a nice looking bike.  My short observation-  looks like the exhaust will make that right pannier get toasty. And what are those three lines on the exhaust header near the cat?  Third picture shows them.  Is that a clamp or a stylistic addition?

[bad Chad]

All you nay sayers, need to get ready to start eating crow.
https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-reviews/moto-guzzi-v100-mandello-first-ride-review-2023/

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

No spy shots of testing means it's all BS, obsolete before released. Lots of talk & no bike.

Why would there be "spy shots"? It's already been seen at shows and out on the road, so it's not like a "spy shot" is going to reveal anything new! 

[guzzisteve]

All you nay sayers, need to get ready to start eating crow.
https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-reviews/moto-guzzi-v100-mandello-first-ride-review-2023/

That's the same prototype, 2 bikes is not a production line. No bikes seen is no testing in real world.

[blackcat]

All you nay sayers, need to get ready to start eating crow.
https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-reviews/moto-guzzi-v100-mandello-first-ride-review-2023/

This is an excellent review of the new Mandello and probably the best modern report I've ever seen on Cycle World for a Moto Guzzi. I don't think MG would be letting the press ride a new model if they weren't close to releasing it to the public.

[bad Chad]

Steve, quick, put down your steel cut oatmeal, and get to your front door!  I think I see some dam kids walking home from school, stepping on your grass!!

But seriously, if you look a little closer at the pics, you can tell, it clearly, is not the same bike.  The wheels are different, the seat is different, the header pipes are different.   The bike/bikes featured in these articles, are set up to take bags, the EICMA bikes had no such hardware.   The bikes are real, both Guzzi, as well as multpale dealers are saying they expect delivery to begin in October.   You better get over to your favorite dealer soon and put some cash down!

[PJPR01]

Well...this is quite encouraging indeed!

I'm sure those WG members who are about to attend the 100+1 party in Mandello will report live and maybe even get to touch/sit, possibly ride one at the party?

Can't wait to see one in person!!

[Beowulf]

I wasn’t at first but I’m now seriously considering this bike. I may give it a year to see how things pan out, my current work situation is enabling my Guzzi addiction I’m afraid. The performance seem really decent but the more I look I really like it. It’s really gonna come down to the v85 vs the v100. In the meantime I’ll just play with my v7. Looking forward to ride reports.

[Huzo]

No spy shots of testing means it's all BS, obsolete before released. Lots of talk & no bike.

Yep.
Just like the V85 Steve, we’ll never see unit#1 roll off the line…
I’ll come back to this when they’re all over the place….Jeeeezzz.

[Huzo]

Well...this is quite encouraging indeed!

I'm sure those WG members who are about to attend the 100+1 party in Mandello will report live and maybe even get to touch/sit, possibly ride one at the party?

Can't wait to see one in person!!

Do I get bonus points if I crash the demo on a test ride…? (Hope I don’t put a scratch on my jacket…) 

[Shorty]

Condensed version on YT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRPs1loIqFk

[DesertPilot]

I'm liking everything I hear, everything I read, everything I see, and I'd really want one...

...except...

...it sounds like they've made it too complicated.  What if I don't want all that electronics?  What if I don't want adaptive aerodynamics, with all the extra maintenance this could require down the road.  What if I just want... a motorcycle?  "Oh?" a cynic might reply.  "Do you also want to use primitve stone tools as you struggle to master the use of fire?"  Maybe and maybe not.  That 'fire' can be tricky stuff! But I'll be watching with a mixture of interest and anticipation to see what else MG might do with that engine.

[lucky phil]

I'm liking everything I hear, everything I read, everything I see, and I'd really want one...

...except...

...it sounds like they've made it too complicated.  What if I don't want all that electronics?  What if I don't want adaptive aerodynamics, with all the extra maintenance this could require down the road.  What if I just want... a motorcycle?  "Oh?" a cynic might reply.  "Do you also want to use primitve stone tools as you struggle to master the use of fire?"  Maybe and maybe not.  That 'fire' can be tricky stuff! But I'll be watching with a mixture of interest and anticipation to see what else MG might do with that engine.

Buy yourself a Royal Enfield 650 twin. It's still got some of the electronics but parts are so cheap you can afford to shotgun troubleshoot them.

Phil

[Cam3512]

It’s happening.

[guzzisteve]

Steve, quick, put down your steel cut oatmeal, and get to your front door!  I think I see some dam kids walking home from school, stepping on your grass!!

But seriously, if you look a little closer at the pics, you can tell, it clearly, is not the same bike.  The wheels are different, the seat is different, the header pipes are different.   The bike/bikes featured in these articles, are set up to take bags, the EICMA bikes had no such hardware.   The bikes are real, both Guzzi, as well as multpale dealers are saying they expect delivery to begin in October.   You better get over to your favorite dealer soon and put some cash down!

They better work through their vacation.

[CanBike]

I really like it. I have a 2v Sport 1200 and a V7iii, and I almost bought a Griso last week. Maybe I save up a few more duckets and buy a V100 instead. I've been really enjoying chewing miles on my sport...the V7 hardly gets ridden. I'm pleased to see someone not build yet another ADV bike. I wish Triumph would make a new sport tourer.

[steven c]

 Looks like a winner!

[lucky phil]

I sure hope they fix the oil leak on the front engine cover @20 seconds in the Cycle World video before production. Guzzi, some things never change.

Phil

[DesertPilot]

Buy yourself a Royal Enfield 650 twin. It's still got some of the electronics but parts are so cheap you can afford to shotgun troubleshoot them.

Phil

I have indeed been tempted by the 650 Interceptor -- the same dealer I bought my V85TT from also handles RE -- but inevitably I find myself looking at a V7 instead.  And I don't really need another bike until my wife makes good on her plans to take over the Ducati Scrambler.  By then, the V100s will be out, and I imagine MG will be developing other bikes based on that engine -- an ADV bike, a naked, a scrambler, a V100 Griso, or the V100 Le Mans I imagine we all dream of -- so I'll wait, with interest, to see how this story unfolds.

[lucky phil]

I have indeed been tempted by the 650 Interceptor -- the same dealer I bought my V85TT from also handles RE -- but inevitably I find myself looking at a V7 instead.  And I don't really need another bike until my wife makes good on her plans to take over the Ducati Scrambler.  By then, the V100s will be out, and I imagine MG will be developing other bikes based on that engine -- an ADV bike, a naked, a scrambler, a V100 Griso, or the V100 Le Mans I imagine we all dream of -- so I'll wait, with interest, to see how this story unfolds.

As you may know I have a few other more sophisticated bikes in my garage but the RE is a breath of fresh air in some ways. It's just a simple, basic, smooth well built and highly affordable motorcycle that reminds me why I started riding over 50 years ago to start with. I love modern bikes and the engineering behind them but as I get older I realise I don't really need that stuff at the price they cost up front, the cost of parts, the ability to find competent mechanics to service them and the cost of insurance. The RE is the first bike in 50 years of high end and exotic bikes I've owned that I've actually insured because it's so cheap to do so.

Phil 

[Dirk_S]

You can’t ask for stupid simplicity across an entire product line when most people in the world are looking for those bells and whistles. MG would be missing out on sales big time and fall back even further as a contemporary motorcycle builder.

I get it—so many Guzzisti are diehard stuck in the 60s-70s-80s air-cooled days. Guess what—you’re old, acting like a traditional curmudgeon, and you’re gonna be pat on the head and moved aside as the rest of the world moves on, because if MG DOESN’T at least pretend that they can do what everyone else can already do, they’ll be considered a relic or like Royal Enfield, the “oh how cute, they’re trying to modernize…slowly” manufacturer.

When I was at the National Rally last year, I was sitting with some old farts who started talking politics. I got into a polite debate with them. They pointed out something like ‘most Guzzi owners are older, and most lean toward this particular side of the spectrum.’ Fine, but sometimes it’s important to understand when  you simply don’t want change for your own sake. Businesses have to do what businesses have to do to not only survive, but preferably thrive.

My thoughts are ‘why not try and be the Italian BMW’—Guzzi can STILL put out air-cooled machines like other manufacturers continue to do, and also have their nifty modern sector. I’m stinkin’ ECSTATIC to see this bike hopefully do well. I’m not buying it, but there’s no reason MG should be shelved to yesteryear’s nostalgia.

Air-cooled is a niche. Best to accept it. Air-cooled is still my preferred, but I also get that it’s becoming a dinosaur. Too stubborn for liquid-cooling? There’s always a cheap, used bike for sale just up the road or on eBay.

[9fingers]

I have indeed been tempted by the 650 Interceptor -- the same dealer I bought my V85TT from also handles RE -- but inevitably I find myself looking at a V7 instead.  And I don't really need another bike until my wife makes good on her plans to take over the Ducati Scrambler.  By then, the V100s will be out, and I imagine MG will be developing other bikes based on that engine -- an ADV bike, a naked, a scrambler, a V100 Griso, or the V100 Le Mans I imagine we all dream of -- so I'll wait, with interest, to see how this story unfolds.

I have a V7III Special, and I have ridden friends RE INT and GT 650s, and they are really nice bikes..........But they are NOT Moto Guzzis. And the new V7 is even better, but costs a bit more as well. Get the V7!
Scott

[9fingers]

If I sell 20 or 30 guns I can buy a Mandello! Mighty tempting. I love it!
Scott

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

No spy shots of testing means it's all BS, obsolete before released. Lots of talk & no bike.

This is a great point, we have seen every other new bike in the last 15 years wrapped in black riding around Mandello via spy shots

[bad Chad]

It’s not a great point.   There are over 20 new pics of the black bike.  Multiple media outlets are giving ride reports, what more do you need?