V85 TT Merged Threadfest

[giusto]

What is a PARASPRUZZI ? 

 Splash Guard of coarse :)

[steven c]

 Well it weighs about what my Buell weighs, so much for a lighter bike.

[giusto]

Well it weighs about what my Buell weighs, so much for a lighter bike.

Uhg and at 32 5/8 seat height that’ll make things a bit difficult for us  short Leggers

[Rhodan]

I think I read that there are 3 different seat heights and a lighter Arrow exhaust that can be purchased.  I know it all adds $$ but I'm waiting to read some real reviews and getting my hands on one before I pass judgement.  I understand wanting lighter and a bit shorter.  I'd been hoping for about 820 mm and around 470 wet.  *shrug* We'll see what we see.

[Huzo]

You Aussies are amazing!

As usual mate, you're completely correct..

[Trialsman]

I added in the unknown words to my earlier post (courtesy of my son).  But I think they were more fun they way they were.  I would opt for the increased winness though.   

[jacksonracingcomau]

https://www.motociclismo.it/moto-guzzi-v85-segreti-motore-intervista-cappellini-70088

80 nm @ 3400 rpms.

Here is what I have translated so far from the article:

The classic travel enduro of the Aquilla is powered by a 90 degree 853cc twin-cylinder, air-cooled engine capable of delivering 80 bhp at 7,750 rpm and a maximum torque of 80 Nm at 5,000 rpm.

Surprised no one saw that, new torque figure same but 1600 rpm higher
Peak power same but rpm lower
The spread is shrinking, get a pre production one for all the mumbo

[LowRyter]

Kev.. I'm tellin ya.. you are going to be sorry down the road. Ask Wayne..
Wear hearing protection, dammit..

yep

[LowRyter]

Yes you loose passing power in Co. but it will run 80-90 all day long on any road there. Yess I've done it! and at 65-70 MPG because of the altitude.

actually I can't feel much loss of power riding my motorcycles in Colorado elevation.   That's on the EV, Sport and 1200 Bandit. 

Now my cars are a different story.  My Accord seems a little wimpy.  The most noticeable loss of power is driving my 2008 430HP Corvette.  It seems like it's always in a higher gear.  It's still faster than most cars but doesn't have the snap.

[rdbandkab]

Should we be expecting any new Guzzi models to be displayed at the EICMA?  Only a couple days away!

[Rhodan]

I read somewhere they may show off a variant on the new V85.

[TimmyTheHog]

For those who are too lazy to use Google Translate

https://www.motorcycle.com/mini-features/2019-moto-guzzi-v85-tt-officially-official.html?fbclid=IwAR3-igSLBGU7ORNqDV9GTsJ2apTpN5Tg4ceA_myjfveb-geOaAk6-kDIK84

Haven't finished the article but at least the spec lines up (or rather copy and paste?)

Either way, still looking forward this guy show up in the show next year (possibly???)

[jdgretz]

It's looking better and better.

jdg

[Huzo]

There's your 80 Hp..
It'll apparently spin to 8,000 rpm so it's a simple torque x Rpm = power
With 90% of the max torque @ 3,750 or so, why would you spin it to 8,000 ?
Still can't wait though...

[leafman60]

It all sounds very good. If the machine lives up to the specifications, it will be a leap forward for Guzzi.  I just hope the quality control is good and required sorting-out by the owner is minimized.

One phrase that caught my eye in the lengthy (obviously translated) description is "aluminum roller cams." I wonder what exactly this means and I have concerns about it.

Time will tell. 

The new Guzzi, perhaps for a handful of people, may be compared to the new 850 BMW twin with its 90 degree staggered crank.  A few claimed specs-

Power
Guzzi 80 HP @ 7750 RPM
BMW  95 HP @ 8250 RPM

Torque
Guzzi  59 pound feet @ 5000 RPM
BMW   68 pound feet @ 6250 RPM

Weight
Guzzi 505 pounds
BMW  504 pounds

Suspension travel
Guzzi   front 6.7 in,  rear 6.7 in
BMW -  front 8 in,  rear 8.6 in

Price -  TBD

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[rdbandkab]

Please let Guzzi or aprilia show me something promising.   



If not, there's a local 1200S Multistrada calling my name(more like whispering seductively). 
We've never been on a Ducati, but I've heard good things.   

[Chuck in Indiana]

"aluminum roller cams."

I would imagine it means aluminum roller rockers..

[janguzzi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uda9zQwvqkA

It seems that the V85TT is the only new bike at the Guzzi booth.
Sad ... really sad.

[leafman60]

I would imagine it means aluminum roller rockers..

Lets hope for that.

[leafman60]

Please let Guzzi or aprilia show me something promising.   



If not, there's a local 1200S Multistrada calling my name(more like whispering seductively). 
We've never been on a Ducati, but I've heard good things.   

Check out the service requirements/cost on that Multistrada before biting on the hook.

.

[rdbandkab]

Luckily, I know an ex-Ducati race team mechanic that charges reasonable amounts for services.  He's about 20 minutes away.  If he can get it down near to what the aprilia dealer charges for a valve service on the Capo...  I think it was getting near $500 at the ape dealer that's 2.5 hours away.

I'm hoping that Piaggio throws me a bone within the next couple days.   I'm in no hurry actually.  We only have 35,000 miles on the Capo and just turned over 11 thou on the Breva.

[TimmyTheHog]

It all sounds very good. If the machine lives up to the specifications, it will be a leap forward for Guzzi.  I just hope the quality control is good and required sorting-out by the owner is minimized.

One phrase that caught my eye in the lengthy (obviously translated) description is "aluminum roller cams." I wonder what exactly this means and I have concerns about it.

Time will tell. 

The new Guzzi, perhaps for a handful of people, may be compared to the new 850 BMW twin with its 90 degree staggered crank.  A few claimed specs-

Power
Guzzi 80 HP @ 7750 RPM
BMW  95 HP @ 8250 RPM

Torque
Guzzi  59 pound feet @ 5000 RPM
BMW   68 pound feet @ 6250 RPM

Weight
Guzzi 505 pounds
BMW  504 pounds

Suspension travel
Guzzi   front 6.7 in,  rear 6.7 in
BMW -  front 8 in,  rear 8.6 in

Price -  TBD

.

Good comparison...

That HP @ 7750RPM...it is like Guzzi is telling us rider to twist and MO POWA! 

as for suspension travel...well, it is ALMOST direct difference of seat height as well...

V85TT    -     840mm <-this I can sort of handle
F800GS  -    880mm <-this....good luck...

which is ~1.5" of difference, 1.5748" if you want to be picky...

Well, NOW I could only hope the tube comment is a typo :P

[Socalrob]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uda9zQwvqkA

It seems that the V85TT is the only new bike at the Guzzi booth.
Sad ... really sad.

A company that makes six or eight thousand bikes a year, betting big on a new model could kill it.  There will be more bikes with the new engine and electronics next year.

[TimmyTheHog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uda9zQwvqkA

It seems that the V85TT is the only new bike at the Guzzi booth.
Sad ... really sad.

well, they are still riding on the success of V7 with its all different iteration AKA paint jobs, so makes little sense for the bean-counter to bring out anything too exotic...

Even V85TT is a big jump...

well, I did hope to see a new Griso too tbh...

[TimmyTheHog]

@Huzo!

Look! a Red one! (grabbed off some guy at the show right now)

[pete roper]

I would imagine it means aluminum roller rockers..

I'll be really surprised if it has roller rockers. God knows that the gibberish means.

[hauto]

Nice in red,but needs some accent strips/panel.I was hoping for a V85 street version concept .Not seeing anything so far.

[Huzo]

@Huzo!

Look! a Red one! (grabbed off some guy at the show right now)

Photo shop ?
Wheels need to be polished or brushed silver.

[TimmyTheHog]

Photo shop ?
Wheels need to be polished or brushed silver.

I can neither confirm or denied...

This is off some bloke on facebook who is currently at the show...unless that person is really bored, I don't see the point of Photoshop it...

HOWEVER, this is the only photo I could find with red...

[TimmyTheHog]

Here is a downloadable brochure link from EICMA

http://eicma.piaggiogroup.com/en_EN/moto-guzzi/moto-guzzi-V85TT/

and if you scroll thru the bottom, there is a red option for regular and premium with red/white