Guzzi, why smaller??

[mtiberio]

me too, my calvin is just too cramped, but I don't want 750 pounds...

[tiger_one]

That would be *great* news if it comes to fruition... Supposedly...Maybe. . 
That would get me rummaging around in the couch cushions looking for something to buy it with..

 :1: I'm in! 

[Guido Valvole]

Didn't someone around here post a size comparison between the new V7 and the original V7 Sport a few years back? Which showed that they are close to the same size. If you think a V7 Classic is small, try a V50. Especially the Monza. At 5' 4" and sub-120 pounds, old smallblocks fit me just fine.  YMMV and all that…

Monza size with modern suspension and 25 to 50% more power (especially low-end torque) could be a lot of fun.
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[Muzz]

Monza size with modern suspension and 25 to 50% more power (especially low-end torque) could be a lot of fun.
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Steamdriven has a Monza with a Nevada engine inside, the Monzada.  Not as easy to do as it sounds, especially as he tried to make it look as original as possible.  It looks great and he said it transformed the Monza.

[pauldaytona]

In the 2014 annual papers, piaggio speaks about a 900cc guzzi.

 here page 58:
http://www.piaggiogroup.com/sites/all/files/piaggiogroup/doc/09_bilancio_2014_eng.pdf

Prototypes of the new 900 Moto Guzzi drive shaft were also developed.

[kevdog3019]

The one time I drove the B750 with the wife on the back in high winds, I realized it was more stable two-up than single on the slab.  Don't have a negative to say about that for distance.  We aren't hefty people, but you're talking 275# together. 

[Kev m]

Well at 230# solo, you should see why maybe I don't want to put my 130ish # wife on the back of a V7.

[Guido Valvole]

@Muzz -- I've heard about that one. Major differences between V50 & V65 and later 750s, starting with rear disc placement and swingarm length. But I love the idea. With new valves and a rebuilt gearbox and rear drive, my Monza *should* (knock, knock) be good for a while and is plenty fun.
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[kingoffleece]

I have no trouble riding my new V7 400 miles a day.

[Moz]

You mean like this?



 

-AJ

exactly 

touring mode

[Penderic]

Didn't someone around here post a size comparison between the new V7 and the original V7 Sport a few years back? Which showed that they are close to the same size.

[Kev m]

Well, I have no idea how good a 2-up bike the original was, but if the scale on that comparative pic is the same, am I seeing a good bit more seat (both length and height, or well thickness, and suddenly I wonder about width too) on the original version?

[Dogwalker]

if the scale on that comparative pic is the same,

I don't think it is. the whhelbase of the V7 Sport was 1470 mm, the wheelbase of the current V7 is 1449 mm. There are only 21mm of difference, but they seems exactly the same in the comparative pic.

[frans belgium]

:1: I'm in!

So is about everybody else, including myself.
Marketing at MG sucks
Beating a dead horse here

[Kev m]

I don't think it is. the whhelbase of the V7 Sport was 1470 mm, the wheelbase of the current V7 is 1449 mm. There are only 21mm of difference, but they seems exactly the same in the comparative pic.

Ah, so the overlay really just tells us how similar they are in form/shape.

And if the wheelbase of the original was bigger, and the images are adjusted so both wheelbases look the same (and in that instance the original STILL looks bigger) that means the original WAS bigger all around. 

[Chuck in Indiana]

So is about everybody else, including myself.
Marketing at MG sucks
Beating a dead horse here

Yep, they could have had a hemi head 2 valve engine that rox  in the small block line for 20 freakin years..

[pauldaytona]

Chuck how is the drone engine in practice, and did you do a dyno session with it?

[Cam3512]

Ah, so the overlay really just tells us how similar they are in form/shape.

And if the wheelbase of the original was bigger, and the images are adjusted so both wheelbases look the same (and in that instance the original STILL looks bigger) that means the original WAS bigger all around. 

I have both. The V7 Sport is a slightly heavier bike (feels it), and the seat sits lower.  I can flat foot the Sport with bent knees.  Straight legs with a stretch on my Special.

[Kev m]

I have both. The V7 Sport is a slightly heavier bike (feels it), and the seat sits lower.  I can flat foot the Sport with bent knees.  Straight legs with a stretch on my Special.

That's the one I rode right?

Nice bike, but yeah, not the same thing in a lot of ways.

vive la difference 

[Chuck in Indiana]

Chuck how is the drone engine in practice, and did you do a dyno session with it?

Hi, Paul.. it's actually better than my expectations. My idea was to have a *reliable* Lario engine, since it is going to be a keeper.
I don't even know of a dyno around here, and besides that, it would cost money.  (Guzzi content)
I've hesitated to post anything on performance since it would just seem that since I went to the trouble and expense of doing it, I would be bound to like it.. know what I mean?
It runs very well, indeed. I'm more than happy with it. Here's what the Kid had to say after an extended test ride.
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=76906.0

[dee g]

The spouse and I have no interest in riding two up, and we're both pretty happy with our small blocks (pair of Nevadas, Breva, V7C).  What i'd really love to see? A modernized Monza.  If Guzzi had a 450 or 500cc bike in the line up, I'd buy one today.  Yes, I know, there are only about 6 of us on the planet that want that.  :-)

I was in the garage the other day, moving the Battery tender lead around, and mentioned to Pete that I'm going to sell my V11 EV.  Love the bike, but its just too big.  Seems the only time I ride it is when we go to Guzzi campouts.  Other than that, it sits in the garage while I take out one of the mid sized Hondas, the Rebel, or one of the small blocks. Same with his Cali EV.  I just don't feel the need to have a 1000+cc bike any more.

[Cam3512]

That's the one I rode right?

Nice bike, but yeah, not the same thing in a lot of ways.

vive la difference 

Yup. FWIW, I'm cramped in the riding position on the original Sport. Can't see how bigger dudes can last very long.  And don't tell me it's a "touring machine ", it's not.  The new SB's can be.

[Kev m]

Yup. FWIW, I'm cramped in the riding position on the original Sport. Can't see how bigger dudes can last very long.  And don't tell me it's a "touring machine ", it's not.  The new SB's can be.

Well, one thing about ergos, is that, to an extent, they can be changed.

Like as you said, the seat sits lower, so a taller seat might alleviate the cramped feeling.

Of course, if you're not going to "tour" on it, that might not be worth it.

I'll happily "tour" on my V7.... but not with a passenger!

[Mick the Dabber]

Yep, my Strada 750 is just a little too small to load up with luggage and passanger (I am 6'1").

[jas67]

Yep, my Strada 750 is just a little too small to load up with luggage and passanger (I am 6'1").

There is a small block that I've never seen before.    Looks like the natural predecessor to the Breva 750.
Were these sold in the US?

[Chuck in Indiana]

Were these sold in the US?

Not as far as I know..

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

There is a small block that I've never seen before.    Looks like the natural predecessor to the Breva 750.
Were these sold in the US?

Nope.   

[Jim C]

I think I'm gonna wait for the new 75 HP HEMI head 900cc Moto Guzzi.
I'm thinking dual discs in front, LEDs all around, real chrome bullet
turn signals (you know, the DOT-approved ones), all wrapped up
in V7 Stone-style body work.

So, what do you think? Doable? Yes, I think so...Possible? Who knows...

Jim

[Cam3512]

Well, one thing about ergos, is that, to an extent, they can be changed.

Like as you said, the seat sits lower, so a taller seat might alleviate the cramped feeling.

Of course, if you're not going to "tour" on it, that might not be worth it.

I'll happily "tour" on my V7.... but not with a passenger!

I agree, I prefer to ride solo as well.  I bought the V7 Special so the wife WON'T want to get on the back. 

[bad Chad]

I too like to ride solo on my V65, that is unless I have a really wide 400Lb plus mama riding pillion!  Then bring it on, the bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushing, or so I have read!  Thank you Spinal Tap!