Bike Vapor

[Moto Fugazzi]

I recently starting vaping in order to quit smoking, and so far, so good. I finally found the perfect combination of the "mod box" and tank that work for me. I did find it quite annoying at the vape shops, as they just want to sell you the components that make the largest vape clouds. I just wanted something small and simple because I made a bad life decision as a teen. Since I started vaping, 3 of my friends also started, which made quitting smoking that much easier.

It's also nice this time of year that I now don't have to step outside in freezing weather for 5 minutes to inhale some burning leaves.
Ken

[Tom]

Saw the weather news.  My condolences to those in the north getting the cold weather. 

[SaskMick]

How in hell did a thread about vaping turn contentious  :shocked
Ease up fellas , thanks .

 Dusty

He says just don't trust the stuff and not enough info out there to say it is safe.  yet he rides motorcycles knowing they are not safe and cause far more deaths than vaping ever could.   I do not think he liked me pointing that out.   

[SaskMick]

I recently starting vaping in order to quit smoking, and so far, so good. I finally found the perfect combination of the "mod box" and tank that work for me. I did find it quite annoying at the vape shops, as they just want to sell you the components that make the largest vape clouds. I just wanted something small and simple because I made a bad life decision as a teen. Since I started vaping, 3 of my friends also started, which made quitting smoking that much easier.

It's also nice this time of year that I now don't have to step outside in freezing weather for 5 minutes to inhale some burning leaves.
Ken

I predict you will never smoke again

[SaskMick]

A little NLP there 

[oldbike54]

 Way too early this Winter season to start calling each other out , I suggest you guys save some of this vitriol for the really cold weather . Otherwise , what the hell are ya gonna have to keep you warm when it gets REALLY cold . Get it ?

 Dusty

[SaskMick]

Is this scientific fact or conjecture?

I would suggest that it is factual.

Make up your own mind.........


....Motorcycle death statistics

Death statistics[edit]

Between 1966 and 2008, the NHTSA estimated 148 thousand people died in motorcycle accidents.[35]

In 2013, 6% percent of the fatalities were passengers (non-operator) of the total deaths that year for motorcycles 4,688.[36]

In 2010 motorcycle accident fatalities accounted for 14% of all accident fatalities.[37] It was also 14% in 2008.[35] In 2008, 47% of fatal accidents were with another vehicle, and of those 77% involved a head-on collision with a motorcycle and in 7% the motorcycle was struck from behind.[35] 59% of those killed were wearing a helmet, which were estimated to give a 37% increased chance of overall survival and reduction in the chance of a head injury;helmet use has been the subject of various studies and laws

Statistics 1994 to 2014[edit]

Annual U.S. motorcycle deaths since 1994[12]


Year

Deaths

Injuries


1994
2,320

1995
2,227

1996
2,161

1997
2,116

1998
2,294 49,000[35]

1999
2,483 50,000[35]

2000
2,897 58,000[35]

2001
3,197† 60,000[35]

2002
3,244 65,000[35]

2003
3,661‡ 76,000[35]

2004
4,028 76,000[35]

2005
4,576 87,000[35]

2006
4,837 88,000[35]

2007
5,174 103,000[35]

2008
5,312 (5,290) 96,000[35]

2009
4,462 (4,469)[37] 90,000[37]

2010
4,502 82,000[37]

2011
4,612 (4,403)[2] 81,000[38]

2012
4,695 [2] 93,000[36]

2013
4,402[2] 4,688[36] 88,000[36]

2014
4,295[2] 92,000[36]
† some NHTSA lists show 3,181
 ‡ some NHTSA lists show 3,714


20th century statistics[edit]

Annual U.S. motorcycle deaths 1975-2001[2][12]


Year

Deaths


1975
3,106

1976
3,232

1977
4,004

1978
4,448

1979
4,712

1980
4,955

1981
4,737

1982
4,267

1983
4,099

1984
4,425

1985
4,415

1986
4,309

1987
3,832

1988
3,491

1989
3,030

1990
3,128

1991
2,702

1992
2,291

1993
2,346

1994
2,320 (IIHS 2,215)

1995
2,227

1996
2,161

1997
2,116

1998
2,294

1999
2,483

2000
2,897

2001
3,197


Vaping death statistics

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Why no deaths thus far, some may muse skeptically? Simple. Vaping does not produce any of that lung-clogging tar, nor the suffocating carbon monoxide that is a by-product of tobacco smoking. And when it comes to toxins – carcinogens included – the trace amounts produced by e-cigarettes are the same ones as those present in medicinally-licensed patches and nicotine gum.

We back this through credible evidence you can take a few minutes to skim through:
•Should e-cigarettes be regulated as a medicinal device?
•Electronic cigarettes – miracle or menace?
•E-cigarettes and the rise of the vapers: Can there really be smoke without fire?

How Safe is Nicotine?

When quizzed by the BBC on the health effects of nicotine, Professor Peter Hayek answered quite plainly:


[it is] very similar to drinking coffee.

The thing with e-cigarettes is that it can be very difficult to inhale amounts that can be considered dangerous. This is because it would give the user – vaper or smoker – a nauseating feeling long before it reaches a point of harming them.

The amount of nicotine one inhales is dictated by the depth of each breath. There are few logical ways you can get nicotine into your system as fast as through breathing it in. It’s one reason many smokers struggle with ‘medicinal’ sources of nicotine (patches, gum et al). Anyone who has used gum will admit the length of time it takes to peak in the system. What they’ll also tell you is that the delayed gratification aside, it can give you nausea when too much of it has been absorbed.

So, are Vapor Cigs Safe?

There are several reasons people worry about nicotine being a drug. Ignorance is one, bad science is another.

By the latter we mean a discredited research project that was published as far back as 1858 that bodies like the European Union still go by to date. The EU wants to ban e-cigs with more than 20mg of nicotine in them, despite the fact that scientists have demonstrated time and again that the said nic content produces just a third of the nicotine a regular cigarette does.

And of course, there is always the addiction element – another reason people worry about nicotine.

is vaping safe

What about Passive Vaping?

Is vaping safer than smoking in terms of second-hand vapor/smoke?

There are no vapers who have died from vaping since it came about, neither has there been any reported incidence of death caused by passive vaping.

http://vapersoul.com/more-about-vaping/is-vaping-safe/?v=f24485ae434a

[SaskMick]

How many Moto Guzzi riders drink coffee ?

[sib]

How many Moto Guzzi riders drink coffee ?

Yes, you can get a nasty lap burn from that if you're not careful.

[Huzo]

Is the thread title a play on words ? What does substance addiction have to do with bikes, should there not have been a NGC warning attached ?

[charlie b]

The title refers to being able to vape while riding without fear of burning embers getting in your eyes :)

I do love reformed people, no matter what it is they used to do.  Cigs, alcohol, riding motorcycles, driving fast, skydiving, etc, etc, etc.

[SaskMick]

Is the thread title a play on words ? What does substance addiction have to do with bikes, should there not have been a NGC warning attached ?

Vaping does not indicate substance addiction.  It is however a very good way of curing nicotine addiction.

Many vapors including myself do not vape any addictive substances.

[oldbike54]

 First time I've heard anyone self-define as a "vapor" 

 Dusty

[SaskMick]

First time I've heard anyone self-define as a "vapor" 

 Dusty

Is it grammatically incorrect ?

[oldbike54]

Is it grammatically incorrect ?

 No idea , we keep adding terms to the English language , vapeing isn't even a word .

 Dusty

[Tom]

Yes, you can get a nasty lap burn from that if you're not careful.

I got a lap burn but that was from the wife when we were dating and........uh....ne ver mind.......

[quota2000]

There are no vapers who have died from vaping since it came about, neither has there been any reported incidence of death caused by passive vaping.

First, Let me suggest that you are trying way too hard.  I simply stated my experience with vaping.  Are you a little thin-skinned?

Second, your stats are absolutely meaningless.  How many deaths were attributed to smoking in the many decades before the data/knowledge was available that would link the two?

Third, the choice to smoke/vape and to ride motorcycles are absolutely not related in any way, shape or form.  You should take a look at this website https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/  before you strut around here like you have proven some kind of point.

anybody ever tried playing chess with a pigeon? http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pigeon_chess

Regards,

Jeff

[SaskMick]

First, Let me suggest that you are trying way too hard.  I simply stated my experience with vaping.  Are you a little thin-skinned?

Second, your stats are absolutely meaningless.  How many deaths were attributed to smoking in the many decades before the data/knowledge was available that would link the two?

Third, the choice to smoke/vape and to ride motorcycles are absolutely not related in any way, shape or form.  You should take a look at this website https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/  before you strut around here like you have proven some kind of point.

anybody ever tried playing chess with a pigeon? http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pigeon_chess

Regards,

Jeff

 I'm simply discussing my experiences with vaping while answering your questions.

 Sorry you got butt hurt,  but I don't believe even a delicate snow flake can't see that different forms of enjoyment are related.

[oldbike54]

 Putting this to bed guys , nothing more to be gained from what has become a whoo haw waving contest .

 Dusty