Author Topic: Not a Cafe Racer or a Brat Bike..........It's a FATRACKER! WOOO-----HOOO!!! (Read 11448 times)

I realise now I've been doing it wrong all my life. It used to be you'd sell someone a bike and then charge them money for bits to make it better.

It seems nowadays the trick is to sell people a bike and charge them a HUGE amount of money to take half of what they've bought and throw it away!

As a business strategy it's brilliant! I only wish I could find customers that gormless!

Pete

LeRoy · « **Reply #10 on:** January 12, 2018, 12:16:30 AM »

I was all set to give this guy a lot of credit for what he's done. But the video was missing the compulsory scenes of sparks flying from an angle grinder and cigarette smoke forming a gauzy filter through which true creativity is to be seen. How can you take someone producing heinous motorcycles seriously without the cues and signals we've grown accustomed to associating with genius?

Green1000S · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2018, 04:56:33 AM »

Pipes routed right UNDER the gas tank... clever. Really clever.

No wonder he had to cut half of the tank off...

tris · « **Reply #12 on:** January 12, 2018, 05:32:42 AM »

Quote from: Green1000S on January 12, 2018, 04:56:33 AM

Pipes routed right UNDER the gas tank... clever. Really clever.
No wonder he had to cut half of the tank off...

Anyone for nut roast

And if you are going to route them that way - at least get them in line with the frame/tank.

arveno · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2018, 06:03:49 AM »

He’s been customizing bikes for 5 years .

Please stop ah ah seriously

Guzzistajohn · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2018, 06:22:56 AM »

I thought you guys would enjoy that. Can’t wait to see the bikes from Roper’s chop shop. Maybe “The wallaby racer” or “The roo racer”

Lannis · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2018, 07:30:36 AM »

Well, the way I look at it, "beauty" is in the eye of the beholder. I can understand why he might want the bike to LOOK like it does. It's not too far from some bare-bones bikes that I've liked in the past.

But "functionality" and "ride-ability" are NOT so subjective, not so qualitative. You could actually MEASURE the temperature under the gas tank and near your legs, and you would be able to use a ruler to measure the thickness of the spooge on the entire underside of the bike, and on YOU, if you ever rode it on anything besides clean asphalt, with no fenders like that.

So from the standpoint of "If you can't ride it, what's the point?", I wish he'd started with a marble garden statue or something ....

Lannis

kidsmoke · « **Reply #16 on:** January 12, 2018, 08:36:19 AM »

and Guzzi thought enough of it to include it in it's Long Beach IMS presentation.

hauto · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2018, 08:41:19 AM »

It's not just this builder,google Moto Guzzi Cafe.Every build pretty much looks the same,but with the lights hung in a different style.I would say it takes a fair amount of funding to change the basic look of the classic Guzzi.That's why the Griso is a classic.Everything flows together,except for that Cindy Crawford moal of a seat.

JJ · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2018, 08:46:59 AM »

Very cool and interesting...and I applaud this guy for his fine work.

However, given the choice...I would rather have THIS!

:1:

LowRyter · « **Reply #19 on:** January 12, 2018, 09:41:04 AM »

something is amiss.

fat tires on "sporty" bikes and skinny tires on baggers. Sorry, don't like the concept, don't like the look. I think motorcycles should be the ultimate expression of form following function.

JJ · « **Reply #20 on:** January 12, 2018, 09:45:45 AM »

QUOTE: I think motorcycles should be the ultimate expression of form following function.

Whenever I hear that, along with the V7 Sport, I think of this motorcycle: 1969 Triumph T120 Bonneville!!

Clean lines, simple, functional...and very pleasing to the eyes...what a motorcycle should be...(IMHO)

Tusayan · « **Reply #21 on:** January 12, 2018, 09:56:41 AM »

Quote from: JJ on January 12, 2018, 08:46:59 AM

Very cool and interesting...and I applaud this guy for his fine work.

However, given the choice...I would rather have THIS! :1:

The first V7 Sport was constructed at the builders home workshop...

The only difference was that Lino Tonti was a talented engineer and had learned something about tubular structures working in aircraft design (at Aermacchi). He apparently took the project home to get away from distractions at the Guzzi factory and get it done faster.

This guy is just a 21st century 'designer' (stylist), who despite that limitation seems to take himself very seriously.

Lannis · « **Reply #22 on:** January 12, 2018, 10:01:13 AM »

Quote from: pete roper on January 11, 2018, 11:25:45 PM

It seems nowadays the trick is to sell people a bike and charge them a HUGE amount of money to take half of what they've bought and throw it away!

As a business strategy it's brilliant! I only wish I could find customers that gormless!

Pete

It does seem like some of these creations are not the RIGHT way to go, but they're the CHEAP way to go.

A good number of attendees at the Raleigh, NC EuroBike Day every April are the local young people, mostly penniless, who create minimalist bikes out of whatever they've got at hand. They don't pretend to be creating artwork, just customized old bikes, anything from Honda Super 90s to Yamaha Secas, and they buzz all over the Triangle part of the state on them. They seem to have a great time building, riding, and socializing with them.

This one caught my eye as having a few things in common with the OP bike under discussion.

If the dude running this has more than $900 in it I'll eat my summer gloves ....

Lannis

JoeW · « **Reply #23 on:** January 12, 2018, 10:21:13 AM »

Quote from: arveno on January 12, 2018, 06:03:49 AM

He�s been customizing bikes for 5 years .

Please stop ah ah seriously

Five whole years? I've got underwear older than that. I wonder why they don't show him riding the bike? Does it run? I think he's one of the builders that Guzzi commissioned to customize the V9. My friend Craig Rodsmith did one, so did Revival Cycles and Moto Studio. There may be one more out there.

I got to ride this one.

Triple Jim · « **Reply #24 on:** January 12, 2018, 10:46:45 AM »

Quote from: Guzzistajohn on January 11, 2018, 09:30:31 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRlYxTJGsXU

This video reminds me a little of the Ichiban Moto videos of the cafe racer build.

Guzzi Gal · « **Reply #25 on:** January 12, 2018, 10:57:40 AM »

:1: Thanks for posting. I enjoy the creativity that MG's inspire, regardless of the outcome.

In the video, he states that he's been doing this professionally for 5 years. Who knows how long he's been a garage putterer. BTW, it's not my cup o' tea, but more power to him if he can make a living doing what he enjoys. Wish we were all so lucky!

Curtis Harper · « **Reply #26 on:** January 12, 2018, 11:02:03 AM »

The strange part of this whole Piaggio based exercise is give 4 or 5 motorcycles to people who have nothing to do with the Moto Guzzi brand. Have them make custom one off pieces so people will want them. Then not produce a single part from any of the people who did the work or offer anything for the dealers to offer to the Moto Guzzi buying customer. I still do not understand why you would create a market that you will never try to fill.

canuck750 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 12, 2018, 11:04:46 AM »

Triple Jim · « **Reply #28 on:** January 12, 2018, 11:05:36 AM »

Quote from: Curtis Harper on January 12, 2018, 11:02:03 AM

I still do not understand why you would create a market that you will never try to fill.

Pretty similar to BMW with the R NineT.

twowings · « **Reply #29 on:** January 12, 2018, 11:10:45 AM »

Ragionare coi piedi.

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