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Kinda makes one wonder how many different Sportsters will be on sale . The Sportster Low , the Sportster Tall , the Sportster Denim , The Sportster Dark , the Sportster Bulldog It's funny, some of the guys on a Harley forum are already saying there are too many models . Dusty
There counting new paint job's on existing models with a fender swap
..............And no they don't have multi-mapping, TC (yet), tire pressure sensors, electronic suspension or windshield adjustments. But then again, neither do the vast majority of other bikes on the market today.
Spoke with a corporate rep at Wilkins HD in Vermont and he stated that HD will release 100 new models in the next 5 years to accommodate changing demographics. I asked if the new motor will be in the Dyna line next year he stated it may be a few years but had no official answer.
There is no way on Earth they could release a 100 new models over 5 years! 20 a year, come on!!
H-D does have one feature I believe to be unique to the marque, the ability to shut down the rear cylinder to prevent catastrophic failure due to overheating, KEWL!!! H-D provides the technology their customers want, but those are the die hard/ride hard/live hard fan boy customers over 50 years old, they do nothing for the young rider and the experienced rider that embrace technology, hence dwindling sales. There is just not much of a market for sun dials today, time marches on, and H-D is being left behind. I owned a 1st year EFI H-D and fueling was bad, real bad, shop couldn't fix it and H-D factory rep couldn't fix it. The lady in my life owned a H-D dealership. her customers with EFI units were not nappy and she was not happy, either was I. A coupe of years later they switched to the Delphi system and all was well..... except for the cam bearings but that's another story. PaulPaul
When they DO make it we don't buy it...
Indian seems to have stolen a copy of the H-D playbook.I want to like the Indian Scout, but until they have a factory "Sport Scout", I'll be watching from afar...
This is the German Electra Glide I picked up this week, 3500 KM, the original owner was 5'-5" tall, he couldn't get his feet on the ground and dropped it in his parking lot, one scuff on a bag. It scared him so he reluctantly let it go he has two Harley cruisers, short seat and he can ride them with confidence.I took it out for my 1st ride today, about 200 miles, all backroad 2 lane county riding, mostly empty roads, cruised effortlessly a 140 km/hr, 3650 rpm, 52 mpg. It runs out of steam around 220 km/hr, may have had more but my courage stopped around there. It feels lighter and much more stable than the R1150RT I just sold. Dropping down from 6th to 5th and cracking the throttle and at 140 km/hr it just snaps forward and hits 200 in a few seconds.
Hmm , my perception of the RT and modern FL series bikes is different . I found the RT to be like a ballerina , even at low speeds compared to the HD which felt heavy and sluggish , giving a feeling of being disconnected from the bike . Maybe we have different gravity in Oklahoma , dunno . Dusty
Unfortunately, Indian seems to have stolen a copy of the H-D playbook.The third Scout model has been announced this week. "Scout Bobber".Yep, you guessed it. Fender swap and new paint colors.Geez, Louise... http://www.bikeexif.com/2018-indian-scout-bobber-reviewhttp://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/2018-indian-scout-bobber-first-rideI want to like the Indian Scout, but until they have a factory "Sport Scout", I'll be watching from afar...Because I just don't "get it".
A "restored" 1937 Indian Sport Scout today will set you back approx. $28,000-$35,000...or you can opt for this:upload album online
I thought the whole point of this thread is in the OP's 1st post when he linked From Reuters "Harley-Davidson cuts shipments forecast; shares skid."http://www.reuters.com/article/us-harley-davidson-results-idUSKBN1A3126Even the name of the thread of is "The MoCo is falling" is about the business model and not the egos and "subjective views" of the RK or other behemoths they make.
Honda's units are huge worldwide, but they're about as relevent to Harley as most of Polaris' numbers (which are ATV's/side-by-sides/snowmobiles).