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Title: 850-T-3 oil pan bolt pattern, a bit of a rhetorical question...
Post by: radguzzi on May 14, 2021, 07:26:55 PM
So I went to have a peek at an 850-T nearby, I just went to see if, on an off chance that it would have one of the early T-3 engines.  Just because.

Well low and behold, I see this bolt pattern.

Now I am 99.99% certain that his tells me that it is in fact a filtered engine.  Correct...?  Thought I would ask the collective.

Thanks,
Rob

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/26ikoK.jpg)

Title: Re: 850-T-3 oil pan bolt pattern, a bit of a rhetorical question...
Post by: 73 sport on May 14, 2021, 07:34:10 PM
Is filtered good or bad?
Title: Re: 850-T-3 oil pan bolt pattern, a bit of a rhetorical question...
Post by: Gliderjohn on May 14, 2021, 07:39:36 PM
I am quite sure that all T-3s had filters. There should be a total of 18 bolts concerning the pan.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: 850-T-3 oil pan bolt pattern, a bit of a rhetorical question...
Post by: radguzzi on May 14, 2021, 07:57:59 PM
Quote from: 73 sport on May 14, 2021, 07:34:10 PM
Is filtered good or bad?

Good...

Quote from: Gliderjohn on May 14, 2021, 07:39:36 PM
I am quite sure that all T-3s had filters. There should be a total of 18 bolts concerning the pan.
GliderJohn

Oh I agree John,
I should have asked whether this bolt pattern could be a definitive as to whether there is a filter residing in that pan Without dropping it..?

Thanks,
rad



Title: Re: 850-T-3 oil pan bolt pattern, a bit of a rhetorical question...
Post by: guzzisteve on May 14, 2021, 08:36:07 PM
On pans with a filter there will be a circle casting mark between the fins at where the screen pick up is located.
Need a strait up shot for that one.
Title: Re: 850-T-3 oil pan bolt pattern, a bit of a rhetorical question...
Post by: Tom H on May 14, 2021, 08:37:17 PM
Per the bolt pattern. 99.99 percent sure it should have a filter. Now if there is one in it??????

Tom
Title: Re: 850-T-3 oil pan bolt pattern, a bit of a rhetorical question...
Post by: radguzzi on May 14, 2021, 08:50:51 PM
Quote from: guzzisteve on May 14, 2021, 08:36:07 PM
On pans with a filter there will be a circle casting mark between the fins at where the screen pick up is located.
Need a strait up shot for that one.

That is a good point.  So the circle casting is a mark as to the location of the screen, not the spin on oil filter...?  And is that a certain mark as far back as 1974/75-ish...?  Even the T had the screen, no...?

I hate to drop that pan but I will if I must.
Thanks Steve.
Rob


Quote from: Tom H on May 14, 2021, 08:37:17 PM

 
Per the bolt pattern. 99.99 percent sure it should have a filter. Now if there is one in it??????

Tom

Well, funny that you would mention that... the engine is stuck or at least the engine will not turn by jamming a gear and trying to roll it over.  Not sure if it is the engine locked or the gearbox.  Either way it will be a rebuild.

rad__
Title: Re: 850-T-3 oil pan bolt pattern, a bit of a rhetorical question...
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 14, 2021, 08:58:14 PM
That is an oil filter pan. only 14 perimeter screws on non-filtered engines, 18 (including the 4 shown) on filtered engines.
Title: Re: 850-T-3 oil pan bolt pattern, a bit of a rhetorical question...
Post by: TOMB on May 15, 2021, 03:49:46 PM
Look at the front of the oil pan underneath the alternator area if it has a filter there will be three plug holes on the pan front the plugs are about 1/2 inch in diameter if you have plugsyou have a filter no plugs no filter

TOMB