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Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« on: April 30, 2015, 01:32:24 PM »
I have to admit that I'm getting old and want to downsize in a at Touring Bike which I presently don't have

So here's a real contender:



100+ lbs less than the Norge or Stevlio 430 lbs or so dry.  The same basic HP and Torques.  20,000 mile valve check intervals (from the first check).

All sorts of wiz-bang electronics and what I like is REAL fuel injection with
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Engine management system   Integrated ignition - injection system MVICS 2.0 (Motor & Vehicle Integrated Control System) with three injectors. Engine control unit Eldor EM2.0, throttle body full drive by wire Mikuni, pencil-coil with ion-sensing technology, control of detonation and misfire Torque control with four maps, Traction Control with eight levels of intervention

 :drool

Now if I could just loose that extra forty lbs I'm carrying around......... :beat_horse

Still a V7-II would be cheaper.

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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2015, 01:38:35 PM »

Now if I could just loose that extra forty lbs I'm carrying around......... :beat_horse



I know, right?   :D   Used to amaze me when bicyclists would come into the shop in Atlanta I used to work in, and not hesitate to spend $300 for a set of shifters or a seat post that was 20 grams lighter than what they had, and they were obviously carrying about 20 pounds of meat around that wasn't helping them get down the road ..... !

You can't go wrong with either one of those bikes in your post!!

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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2015, 01:56:12 PM »
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So here's a real contender:

I hope you have a *lot* of confidence in the dealer's tech. <shrug>  ~;
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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2015, 02:02:40 PM »
"Still a V7-II would be cheaper."

If you are searching for a logical argument for the modern motorcycle, how about looking at the $ per rear wheel horse power? The triple is a raging bargain compared to the Guzzi if you look at it that way! Plus you get a fairing and luggage.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2015, 02:05:39 PM by flip »
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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2015, 02:20:22 PM »
The MV Agusta is really cool. Note that some owners have complained about goofy fuel-mapping, resulting in goofy performance, but maybe a tech/dealer could take care of that.
(or maybe those problems are sorted throughout the product line)
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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2015, 02:20:40 PM »
"At 34.3 in., seat height is rather substantial," said Cycle World.

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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2015, 03:15:58 PM »
By coincidence I did drive it today.

It's good looking. But very fast too. It likes to drive illegal speeds. It is short and light too. Wheelbase like a 916. Seating is upright, I'm not shure the seat will have enough comfort in the longer drives.


 

 


 
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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2015, 04:15:37 PM »
Looks much better with the luggage. That is a very good looker. Not too sure about the seat and the passenger would have to be someone you have no affection for.

Quite a bit of electronics on board, especially the active suspension.

I know it is the fashion but why do so many bikes look like they forgot to build anything behind the motor? Everything past the motor looks like an afterthought. With the luggage it looks stunning.
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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2015, 04:22:05 PM »
By coincidence I did drive it today.

It's good looking. But very fast too. It likes to drive illegal speeds. It is short and light too. Wheelbase like a 916. Seating is upright, I'm not shure the seat will have enough comfort in the longer drives.


 

 


 

I'm sure it's a great bike, but my butt has started to hurt just from looking at that seat and imagining mile #321 on a trip ... or maybe #287 ....

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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2015, 04:34:39 PM »
I think it might be one of those jump on, get off affairs. The turn off the motor and go back inside grinning.

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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2015, 06:01:01 PM »
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Quite a bit of electronics on board, especially the active suspension.

Hello. That's what I was alluding to above. If something happens to all that gee whizzery, unless the "tech" that sees it seriously knows his stuff, you're screwed. The Kid had the hots for the Dragster, I think it is called. It is gorgeous. Ergos are perfect. We looked. We talked. He passed. <tamping corncob pipe>
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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2015, 06:11:12 PM »
MV makes some great bikes.  That seat height is way too much for me, but I say go for it and enjoy!

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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2015, 06:37:27 PM »
Hello. That's what I was alluding to above. If something happens to all that gee whizzery, unless the "tech" that sees it seriously knows his stuff, you're screwed. 
the tech probably just plugs into a computer to find the faults.
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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2015, 06:44:11 PM »
The exhaust is a different touch, finally someone got rid of the garbage can sized tubes. Some of these things look like they belong on a diesel truck.

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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2015, 07:25:11 PM »
There is always this:



vs
 this:




Maybe not in the same class but the price:

$11,199.00

vs

$15929.00

A lot you can do with 5 grand and it is a V engine.
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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2015, 09:32:26 PM »
I have never understood why is the passenger seat....at the "second floor" ? it does not look good and i am sure it's not comfortable , passenger seat should be at same level as driver unless the passenger is a midget . ( no offence to midgets )

Also the muffler and the licence plate holder, no comment.  But who designed this motorcycle ? a 8 years old kid ? ???

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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2015, 11:08:39 PM »
The Mana is a superb tourer but it is also a bit porky. Not as porky as the Norge but it's still not a light motorbike. It is stupidly cheap and reliable though.

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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2015, 11:30:24 PM »
The Mana is a superb tourer but it is also a bit porky. Not as porky as the Norge but it's still not a light motorbike. It is stupidly cheap and reliable though.

Pete

Good to hear, I wish I had one as a spare for the Norge. I just want too many bikes.

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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2015, 08:07:37 PM »
Spent a little time with a Mana GT in person although the demo unit was ready just yet. A very nicely built machine indeed and it reminded me of a smaller Norge in most of its appearance and especially the ergos.

The bars a just a bit wider and flatter but being tube style, risers should present no problem at all. As a backup to the Norge, this would be a good one. Even if you just wanted a sport tourer without a lot of stuff getting in the way but yet a competent machine capable of doing some distance, its worth a look.

I'm going back as soon as the demo unit is available.
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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2015, 08:17:25 PM »
I took a test ride on a Mana a couple of years ago and I loved the bike! It was very smooth and I really liked the acceleration with the CVT transmission. Pull out onto the highway and grab a handful of throttle, no gear shifts, no chassis pitch as you accelerate through each gear, you just look down at the speedometer and say oh crap, I'm doing 90!
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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2015, 08:19:53 PM »
When I think about getting a touring bike I think SHAFT Drive.
I really Like the BMW F800GT but not so sure about that belt drive. I rented one in Munich and rode it about 800 miles though the Alps with no problems, but I heard it doesn't last as long as the Harley belts, but costs twice as much!
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Re: Staying Italian but moving sideways in a Touring Machine.
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2015, 08:24:34 PM »
When I think about getting a touring bike I think SHAFT Drive.
I really Like the BMW F800GT but not so sure about that belt drive. I rented one in Munich and rode it about 800 though the Alps with no problems, but I heard it doesn't last as long as the Harley belts, but costs twice as much!
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