Ebay Suspended My Account

[sign216]

Ebay suspended my account for trying to sell a vintage pair of brass knuckles. 

I have mixed feelings about it.  I thought America was all about guns, beer, etc.

[Dean Rose]

Guess again. 

[cruzziguzzi]

Generally speaking: Illegal in California = banned on O-Bay.

I'm surprised at being suspended though. Multiple past warnings?




Todd.

[canuguzzi]

Probably listed in the wrong section. It doesn't matter if it's illegal in California, that isn't the criteria that gets items pulled and users suspended. Ebay will use arbitrary reasons to suspend users and delist items.

The text used in the item title and description can get something delisted when a nearly identical item does not because it was titled different.

A listing under "Historical Police Memorabilia" would have resulted in success, unless there were other reasons for the suspension.


http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=Brass+knuckles&isNewKw=1&mfs=GOCLK&acimp=0&_trksid=p2053742.m2428.l1313.TR11.TRC2.Xbrass+knuckles&sqp=brass+knuckles

Or try the jewelry section?

[cruzziguzzi]

Probably listed in the wrong section. It doesn't matter if it's illegal in California, that isn't the criteria that gets items pulled and users suspended. Ebay will use arbitrary reasons to suspend users and delist items.

The text used in the item title and description can get something delisted when a nearly identical item does not because it was titled different.

A listing under "Historical Police Memorabilia" would have resulted in success, unless there were other reasons for the suspension.


http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=Brass+knuckles&isNewKw=1&mfs=GOCLK&acimp=0&_trksid=p2053742.m2428.l1313.TR11.TRC2.Xbrass+knuckles&sqp=brass+knuckles

Or try the jewelry section?

It absolutely is the reason much is prohibited from ebey listings. This, I have received directly from them. Generally, this applies to firearms/weapons (brass knuckles), haz-mat perceived items and the like. As an example, this is why one may sell a 10 round magazine for a firearm on ebey but not a single round larger.

Todd.

[Rough Edge racing]

  Certain weapons have been on the not allowed list on Ebay for at least 15 years.....Generally id not legal in every state, Ebay will not want it listed....
  Here's the rules..http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/firearms-weapons-knives.html#what

[canuguzzi]

Blackjacks are illegal in California yet EBay has them for sale.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Braided-Leather-Police-Blackjack-Slapjack-Billy-Club-Baton-/201544280537?_trkparms=aid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20150519202348%2526meid%253D47ec3331143a42d59532d97786b91f05%2526pid%253D100408%2526rk%253D4%2526rkt%253D5%2526sd%253D161873471440&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460

This is illegal in California.

It is on EBay as are many other weapons considered illegal in California. The policy and the reality is often different.

There is a big difference between trying to list an item that is illegal in your state and not being in that state and listing it.

Firearms and their accessories are in a class all by themselves.

[sign216]

The suspension was just for a few days, but with it came a warning that they could rescind my "privileges" entirely for further infractions.

Ironically, that day I mailed a rifle, and also received a pistol, through the mail (I've got a C+R FFL). 
So I can't believe the *(&%^ I'm getting for a piece of brass that has less lethal force than a tire iron.

[Cool Runnings]

The suspension was just for a few days, but with it came a warning that they could rescind my "privileges" entirely for further infractions.

Ironically, that day I mailed a rifle, and also received a pistol, through the mail (I've got a C+R FFL). 
So I can't believe the *(&%^ I'm getting for a piece of brass that has less lethal force than a tire iron.

Can't even sell a BB gun on Feebay.

[canuguzzi]

EBay gets to decide what they will allow to be sold. If they don't allow you to sell what you want, use a different business.

[Cool Runnings]

EBay gets to decide what they will allow to be sold. If they don't allow you to sell what you want, use a different business.

Also, sellers are required to refund a returned item for any reason within 14 days. Then again, sellers can't leave negative feedback period! Some buyers are down right nasty...

When I sell items now, I never leave feedback.

[canuguzzi]

Yes, EBay went from a small personal thing to a monstrosity and if you consider the volume they do and with whom it explains a lot.

[sidmonsters]

How quickly things go from brass knuckles to Nazi memorabilia...I get one, but the other???  This is probably why NGC stuff is discouraged.  Probably would get plenty of affirmation on the HD blogs.  Feel free to go there...
PS--I own guns (rifles, shotguns, handguns), have a family, have post-graduate degrees, and hate hatred.

[Perazzimx14]

The suspension was just for a few days, but with it came a warning that they could rescind my "privileges" entirely for further infractions.

Ironically, that day I mailed a rifle, and also received a pistol, through the mail (I've got a C+R FFL). 
So I can't believe the *(&%^ I'm getting for a piece of brass that has less lethal force than a tire iron.

They aren't going to suspend you forever and if they do who cares open another account if you wish. Ebay gets paid by you buying/selling on their site. If they suspend you they don't get anymore money.

[sign216]

They aren't going to suspend you forever and if they do who cares open another account if you wish. Ebay gets paid by you buying/selling on their site. If they suspend you they don't get anymore money.

Perazz,
I'd rather not open a new account, as I like to think I've got a good reputation there so that buyer's can trust me. 
I merely bristle at the new "norm" for what people decide is good and bad. 
Particularly since motorcycles are viewed as bad by many. 
Motorcycles are the tobacco of the auto motive world; i.e. additional resistrictions because of the health burden put on the greater population.

[Perazzimx14]

Perazz,
I'd rather not open a new account, as I like to think I've got a good reputation there so that buyer's can trust me. 
I merely bristle at the new "norm" for what people decide is good and bad. 
Particularly since motorcycles are viewed as bad by many. 
Motorcycles are the tobacco of the auto motive world; i.e. additional resistrictions because of the health burden put on the greater population.

In the day of old when money orders/checks were the preferred method of payment feedback was much more important. It was hard or impossible to get your money back from an shady seller to a better rating possibly meant the seller was trustworthy. Now with credit cards and PayPal the seller rating is not nearly as important. If I get screwed as a buyer its now the CC or PP battle to get their money back Right wrong or indifferent that is how it is.   

[Cool Runnings]

In the day of old when money orders/checks were the preferred method of payment feedback was much more important. It was hard or impossible to get your money back from an shady seller to a better rating possibly meant the seller was trustworthy. Now with credit cards and PayPal the seller rating is not nearly as important. If I get screwed as a buyer its now the CC or PP battle to get their money back Right wrong or indifferent that is how it is.

If you only knew the fees rip-off-bay/ pay-punk has.

[PJPR01]

Ratings are not only related to payment issues, but whether the product was as represented, was it damaged or falsely advertised, etc.  The fees you pay to reach a massive audience anywhere in the U.S. seem quite reasonable compared to the cost of going and sitting all day at a flea market or just using your local Craiglist which is a much more limited audience.  Is there really an objection to paying a few dollars in fees as a commission when you can sell a $100 item? 

[oldbike54]

Ratings are not only related to payment issues, but whether the product was as represented, was it damaged or falsely advertised, etc.  The fees you pay to reach a massive audience anywhere in the U.S. seem quite reasonable compared to the cost of going and sitting all day at a flea market or just using your local Craiglist which is a much more limited audience.  Is there really an objection to paying a few dollars in fees as a commission when you can sell a $100 item?

 Didn't I say to stop doing that 

 Dusty

[Perazzimx14]

If you only knew the fees rip-off-bay/ pay-punk has.

Sure they are in it to make money not misunderstaning there. That is why I do not sell on eBay anymore and if a buyer want to use PayPal they either "gift" the money or pay the 3% fee over and above. Really the 3% fee is reasonable knowing that if the product is not as advertised, is broken or for some other reason not what you were supposed to get, file a claim and the money is back in your account with a few days.

Wifey bought a pair of UGG boots. When they arrived they were fake. One simple dispute claim to PayPal and the money was back in her account within a few days. Then it is on the seller to pay for return shipping if they want the product back. In her case she never heard from the seller and the Uggly boots are still in the box sitting in the spare bedroom.

[redrider90]

Heck that photo brings back memories of my youth in Chicago in the early 60's.
Lots of guys had one in their pockets where I grew up. 

[Rough Edge racing]

Also, sellers are required to refund a returned item for any reason within 14 days. Then again, sellers can't leave negative feedback period! Some buyers are down right nasty...

When I sell items now, I never leave feedback.

 Are you a "power seller"?  I about one thing a month on Ebay and that rule doesn't apply to me....The seller form I fill out online even has a menu selection, no returns accepted...Of course if the buyer complains to Paypal ,he/she will probably get a refund...
 Ebay is far from perfect but I find it quite useful for vintage parts and anything newer from can openers to electronic stuff ....It's all in one place......

[sign216]

Ebay is useful for selling/buying obscure parts etc, but their "cut" of the action is off-putting.
They also so heavily favor the buyer, that it's frustrating.  Bad customers can crush you.

[jackson]

I have bought plenty of items on Ebay but have never used them to sell an item.  I don't like how the odds
are stacked against the seller and have read too many bad things about how good sellers have been screwed over
by dishonest people.  There's other ways to sell your stuff that offer more protection for the seller.

[BugSpatteredJacket]

Um, so... are they still for sale? PM me! 

[savagehenry]

If you only knew the fees rip-off-bay/ pay-punk has.

I'm in for about 14% on average between the two, not what I consider fair, but you pay that to reach that large a pool of potential buyers. And now I will  just in case a part of their overcharge on fees is used to monitor the entire www searching for posts looking even remotely unfavorable.

[PJPR01]

Not sure why you guys are having negative experiences selling items...I occasionally sell, and with Paypal have no issues at all as a seller.  In fact I've got a couple goodies for sale there at the moment, and have sold a few items in the last couple of weeks.  Some items might sell, some might not, but it's a chance to reach a broader audience I can't do via word of mouth...and frankly, I prefer it to Craigslist so I don't have to deal with meeting someone locally, or having someone come to the house.  For that, it seems like a fair price to pay a small amount of fees to reach a potential buyer.

[Kentktk]

Try using Paypal to buy a Confederate flag, no can do.

[sign216]

Try using Paypal to buy a Confederate flag, no can do.

Can't use Paypal for anything firearms related either.  Not even for empty brass, if the item title "sounds" too much like live ammunition.

I"m not happy with them pushing their idea of right/wrong on me.  It's not illegal drugs.  Firearms are a legitimate, lawful item. 

[Aaron D.]

Some of the foolishness stems from Operation Chokepoint. We have continued to process payment for firearm dealers but I know some outfits won't.