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Yep, Phil is close, and I have been quite satisfied with them. Tom, remember the H-D pic where you were on my 550? Phil is maybe a little less than a mile West of them on the same street, not too far from Jan.John Henry
I've been getting settled in to a new to me Griso for a couple of months now. If you read this article I think it gets it right at least for the Griso:http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/retro-roadster-shootoutIf the Griso came delivered with a better map, better brake pads, and better spark plug caps (why?) I think it would have easily won that shootout. All of those can be done for less than $300US total. For ergo's I did Onar's 15mm risers and the KD 1" lower pegs and it is about as comfortable as any standard I've ever ridden.