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OK, just for you, I will re-phrase:Does MG sell all metal fuel filters for a v7 II?If so, what is the part number?BTW, in researching, the filter is 5/16" fitting in and out.WIX is 1.936" diameter x 3.862" long, rated 20 microns and burst test to 60 PSI, $5.25 through Summit RacingFram G2 and Purolator F20011 are all plastic.AC GF61 is $4.99 at O'Reillys, but is larger (2.17" x 4.55") than the WIX and may not be stocked.Motocraft FG-2 is discontinued due to "low demand"
If the swollen hybrid metal/plastic fuel filter were not replaced by the OP, any guesses on its life expectancy?Survive the 2 year warranty or no?
A rare occurrence, my dealer didn't think so. He questioned whyGuzzi hadn't gotten changied to an all metal filter years ago
Some may call it a rare occurrence because they themselves had not YET had a failure, but they're wrong.
So who is the dealer and how many has he seen?Maybe some call it a rare occurrence because in over a decade (that's what at least 5k bikes/year production, so 50,000 bikes on the road - though maybe only 5,000 of those in the US) we've only heard about a half a dozen failures?If it was a certainty don't you think we'd have seen a couple more by now?Like I said I've examined a couple that have been in use for 3-4 YEARS with generally nothing but E10 in the tank. I removed one and immediately pressure tested it to 120 psi without failing. So that's at least 3x the peak pressure it would see in the fuel tank and it held no problem after more than 3 years soaking in E10. But you are convinced they will ALL fail? Maybe it's horrible quality control and some are really that bad while others are not.But obviously no, every one WON'T for certain fail.I guess I understand wanting to eliminate it is a possibility. But on the flip side when I spend good money on a product I expect it to perform properly under warranty. A non-scheduled replacement of a long-life component, should it fail, will be replaced on the company dime, along with coverage of the tow and anything else I can get out of them. If the problem is THAT bad and we all held the company's feet to the fire, maybe we wouldn't continue to see half-plastic filters that were so doomed to fail.Aw hell, maybe we wouldn't see another valve train debacle. But probably not. And shyte like that makes it an uphill climb for Guzzi to earn more of my business. Though I remain ever optimistic.
I doubt we've heard from all the 5k owner in the U. S. to provide a fair representation of the failure rate Kev. Some riders, like Kingoffleece, dodge the risk by taking preemptive action, as I did with my '09 Sport. We don't know how many other have the wisdom and desire to do the same. Paul
Of course not, but we've made assumptions that it is the ethanol, and I'm not convinced of that (see my small sample data).And if that's the case, then it's more like 50k owners that should be at risk. I would think we'd have heard MORE based on 5k or 50k. Not just half a dozen. But maybe Jim Hamlin and others like him HAVE seen a bunch more. I'm open to this.That said Gerry - squishy and swollen doesn't mean anything if it's still sealed. I might have described the one I tested to 120 psi as squishy and swollen.To be clear I'm not saying there isn't a problem. I'm just saying we're unsure of what it is and the extent.
Of course not, but we've made assumptions that it is the ethanol, and I'm not convinced of that blah blah blah.
Kev said.. Just change it out and forget about it. Whatever is causing it won't cause it with an all metal filter.
You need to remove the tank, then remove the pump assembly to change it. Not going to happen any other way.
Was trying to only view the filter, from the top and it was not possible"With all out, there is no view of the fuel filter or any part of the fuel pump assembly."
Not sure what THAT means but you sure as heck can see the filter when the assembly is removed from the tank. In fact, it would be impossible to miss it.
For 16 bucks, you can inspect through the filler opening.USB Borescope Inspection Camera: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LEU9SRU/ref=asc_df_B01LEU9SRU5176947/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=395033&creativeASIN=B01LEU9SRU&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198112160800&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1384865122776096697&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015255&hvtargid=pla-320708499343Or something similar. Or, visit a nearby auto shop and ask if they have one and can take a quick look in the tank. John Henry
When mine came apart in a multi-state trip, I called the Tulsa Guzzi service guy (Donnie) and he was so familiar with this rare event he had the Wix part number memorized.