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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2011, 06:12:58 PM »
 :D :D :D :D Me I Call mine the Norgy. ~; ~;Pic.
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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2011, 06:40:56 PM »
I don't ride a Goosy, I ride a Guzzi, pronounced the Italian way (gootsie). Both the Italians and the Norwegians say Norrgeh, so that's how I'll pronounce it.
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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2011, 06:22:03 AM »
..... the Norwegians say Norrgeh, so that's how I'll pronounce it.

As said before, no they don't.  ;D

Half of them says NOREG, pronounced with a root-of-tongue R (like thr French pronounce it), the other half says NORGE, pronounced with a tongue-tip R, like the rest of the world, except for the English- and Sino/Japaneese speaking, who apparently doesn't pronounce R at all.  ~;

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2011, 07:00:11 AM »
Just call it your "Guzzi Bitch" and leave it at that! (of course it is "Goot-See")  ;D

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2011, 07:00:11 AM »

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2011, 10:05:22 AM »
Ok, now that I almost own a Norge, what is the correct pronunciation???

Well, we know how the Swedes would pronounce it and how the Italians would pronounce it and how the Norwegians would pronounce it.

Most of the people I talk to on a daily basis being American, it makes more sense to me to pronounce it like an American would pronounce it rather than trying to sound like someone from Scandinavia or Italy, which I'm not, so I say "Norj".

How would someone speaking Mandarin pronounce it?   There's more of them than anyone in the world, seems like THAT would be the way to go .. ?   :D

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Y'ep..... but if I bought a Chiang-Jiang I'd pronounce it properly too.  Since we're talking about an Italian bike made by Moto Guzzi.  I'll pronounce it the way they would.  You of course can say whatever you want.  Your dime.  :P  Call it a Honda if you want.  ;D

Maybe, but it just sounds pretentious to me.   I don't say "SAHNT-i-meter" just because it's a French derived word and the French pronounce it that way.

And if you go to BYOO-na VISS-ta, Virginia, you can pronounce it "BWAY-na VEES-tha" with your tongue between your teeth if you want to, but people there will just laugh at you, even if the town name IS Spanish for "Lovely View".   :D  But never mind that; you'll be secure in your OWN mind that you are pronouncing it CORRECTLY   P:)   ;)

Lannis

This probably pains Lannis as much as it does me, but I agree with his every word.   ;D

I almost hurl when those newsreaders on NPR -- National Communist Radio -- go out of their way to show that they can fake an accent, roll their "r's," and pronounce every foreign city in the manner of the residents there.  Almost as bad as my Italophile friends -- nothing wrong with being that sort of 'phile, you understand  ;) -- who insist on saying "Milano," "Firenze," etc. after nauseating etc. 

When in Roma, it's Roma; here, it's Rome.  Italy and Georgia.

So, I ride a Norge (Norj), tho I do find biking sailor's suggestion charming.   :D

Testily (mostly because the @#$%^ grandbabies slobbered their germs all over me and I'm still sick),

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2011, 11:56:55 AM »
When in Roma, it's Roma; here, it's Rome.  Italy and Georgia.

That's right - thoroughly agree about pronouncing Rs and foreign sounds in general, and wouldn't think of saying "Paris" the way they do in France, any more than I'd try to pronounce "Norge" when I mean "Norway".

But there's that, and then there's ignorance.  To ask an English speaker how to pronounce a word he or she has never seen, and then accept that as the correct pronunciation, is to embrace ignorance.

I personally detest the name, I think it's a major f--up that one of their more appealing recent models has a name whose pronunciation is so ambiguous.  Right now we seem to be tilting towards the theory that in Norway and even Italy the G is the hard one, at the back of the tongue, but earlier I thought the rumor was that Moto Guzzi tells people it's "soft", i.e., NOR-JEH.  Gah.  I agree, call it a "Norway".

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2011, 12:13:36 PM »
V12GT would've been so much simpler... 

 

There's no reason why they can't call a bike one thing in one country and something else in another.  I would imagine there are no English-speaking members on the marketing team...


However, the name "Norge" does have significance to the folks in Mandello.  We're constantly bashing them for not using thier heritage.  It's named after the 1928 GT 500 "Norge".




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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2011, 03:17:05 PM »

As said before, no they don't.  ;D
Half of them says NOREG, pronounced with a root-of-tongue R (like thr French pronounce it), the other half says NORGE, pronounced with a tongue-tip R, . - . -
Think I've said enuff here; won't have a Lemon piston in my neck from Pebra.  :D

Oh come off it Anders, you know nobody believes one word of what you're saying!   :D
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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2011, 03:24:00 PM »
If they'd have called it the Kelvinator, we wouldn't be having this discussion.   :BEER:
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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2011, 04:35:30 PM »
If you are secure in your sexuality and manhood, you would call it Nor-Gay. 

But on the other hand, if you were a typical BMW rider, you would have to say Nor-Ja.  Like, "Ja vol mein capitan."

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2011, 06:09:26 PM »
Maybe, but it just sounds pretentious to me.   I don't say "SAHNT-i-meter" just because it's a French derived word and the French pronounce it that way.

And if you go to BYOO-na VISS-ta, Virginia, you can pronounce it "BWAY-na VEES-tha" with your tongue between your teeth if you want to, but people there will just laugh at you, even if the town name IS Spanish for "Lovely View".   :D  But never mind that; you'll be secure in your OWN mind that you are pronouncing it CORRECTLY   P:)   ;)

Lannis

This probably pains Lannis as much as it does me, but I agree with his every word.   ;D

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So no pain here!    And "I agree with Lannis" is #2093 on Google's "most commonly found phrase on the Internet" ....   :D :D

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2011, 06:16:50 PM »
OK, all you lingui-purists have won me over - I will from this time forward refer to my Calvin as a Motogootsie Colliforneea Vintagay... appropriate Latin gesturing included.
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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2011, 06:29:21 PM »
OK, all you lingui-purists have won me over - I will from this time forward refer to my Calvin as a Motogootsie Colliforneea Vintagay... appropriate Latin gesturing included.

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2011, 06:47:46 PM »
Maybe, but it just sounds pretentious to me.   I don't say "SAHNT-i-meter" just because it's a French derived word and the French pronounce it that way.

And if you go to BYOO-na VISS-ta, Virginia, you can pronounce it "BWAY-na VEES-tha" with your tongue between your teeth if you want to, but people there will just laugh at you, even if the town name IS Spanish for "Lovely View".   :D  But never mind that; you'll be secure in your OWN mind that you are pronouncing it CORRECTLY   P:)   ;)

Lannis

This probably pains Lannis as much as it does me, but I agree with his every word.   ;D

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I must have a terrible memory.   I don't ever remember disagreeing in any way with you, or you being rude and uncivil to anything I said.   If you've disagreed with me on the forum, I probably learned something from it!     Maybe I told a lawyer joke in 2008, but that would have been about it ....

So no pain here!    And "I agree with Lannis" is #2093 on Google's "most commonly found phrase on the Internet" ....   :D :D

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Sorry.  I wasn't serious.  We lawyers have to be very careful about being taken seriously when we think we are hilarious!  ::)   Maybe, too, I was just feeling insecure in my sexuality and manhood or discovered, to my dismay, that I was a typical BMW rider.    ;D  That post, scooterjock, was VERY funny.  Wayne, a.k.a. WHO, and other labels often accuses me of being a repressed beemerist.  He knows it hurts.   :'(

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2011, 04:48:05 AM »
In Colorado, the towns Genoa and Arriba are pronounced Gen OH uh and ARR uh buh; the city of Cairo, IL is pronounced Kay row (like the syrup). Berlin, MA is pronounced  BURL in.
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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2011, 06:30:57 AM »
In Colorado, the towns Genoa and Arriba are pronounced Gen OH uh and ARR uh buh; the city of Cairo, IL is pronounced Kay row (like the syrup). Berlin, MA is pronounced  BURL in.
Whatever you call your bike is the right pronounciation.

You nailed it Crusty!  In the 40 years I've been riding Guzzi I've heard almost all of the different pronounciations. And not one of them have bothered me. At 151 pounds I can't afford arguments.
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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2011, 07:16:58 AM »
In Colorado, the towns Genoa and Arriba are pronounced Gen OH uh and ARR uh buh; the city of Cairo, IL is pronounced Kay row (like the syrup). Berlin, MA is pronounced  BURL in.


Oh! Thread drift!
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I live near Guadalupe (GUAD-ah-loop) County Texas where the the river is (GUAD-ah-loopy) and a local church is Our Lady of (WADDA-loopy).

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2011, 08:39:53 AM »
Boy, am I glad i own a V7C :o ;D :D ;-T ;-T ;-T :BEER: :BEER: :BEER:

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2011, 09:07:50 AM »
Boy, am I glad i own a V7C :o ;D :D ;-T ;-T ;-T :BEER: :BEER: :BEER:

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2011, 10:22:12 AM »
I live near Guadalupe (GUAD-ah-loop) County Texas where the the river is (GUAD-ah-loopy) and a local church is Our Lady of (WADDA-loopy).

The one I hear about all the time is how you all pronounce "Pedernales".

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« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2011, 11:14:23 AM »
Boy, am I glad i own a V7C :o ;D :D ;-T ;-T ;-T :BEER: :BEER: :BEER:

Bill

Do you pronounce that "Vee sette chee?"    :D

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according to the web site (I like it ;-T) it is also known as Vee sette classic  :D ;D

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #51 on: January 07, 2011, 02:39:35 PM »
My Norwegian friends pronounce the name of the country more like "norrr guh".
Norway in Italian is "Norvegia" with a soft g. There is no word "Norge" in Italian that I know of.

One could call it a "Norj" but that would sound funny to anyone but a "Murican".
Kind of like someone from Mexico talking about the "New Jork Jankees".

Guess among us Guzzisti is just "don't make no nevermind". We'll all no of which bike you speak. ;-T

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #52 on: January 07, 2011, 02:49:34 PM »
Parla Italiano?  "Norgay".  Italiano moto.  Vaffanculo "Norj"!!  
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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2011, 04:22:55 PM »
Needless to say.  A number of the Americanos are "testa de merda" with the pronounciation thing.  ~; ;D
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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #54 on: January 07, 2011, 04:33:52 PM »
OK guys.
The unforgettable pronunciation lesson by our old friend Sunbow is still there.
See the Norge as a faired Breva, and start learning from here:

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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #55 on: January 07, 2011, 04:35:03 PM »
So to further refine things, is it TUP-per-ware or TUP'ER-ware?





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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #56 on: January 07, 2011, 05:12:21 PM »
How do they say Jackal in Italy?  ???
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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #58 on: January 07, 2011, 08:26:31 PM »
A guy I know insists on saying everything the way the natives of the respective countries do.  Insists on calling Jag's by the Brit pronunciation and Subies by the Japanese pronunciation.  I think he feels "international" when he does it.

I don't care what is meant.  And I still call mine a Guzzy not a Gutzi.  I also call our local river the Rio Grand, not Grandy.  So, yeah, I would call it a Norj, just like the appliances.  And a Chevy is not a Chebby.

But, I've been to parts of this country where I couldn't understand a word that was being spoken (and it was some variety of english, not mexican-spanish).
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Re: How, or how not, to pronounce "Norge" merged threadfest
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2011, 04:28:16 AM »
errrrr whada you said???  Wot you mean brah???  ;D  Dey no talk wrong.  You listen wrong.  :D
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