Anyone want to try our 8V Norge map?

[beetle]

Mike, the 8V has outstanding throttle response (some say it's too much of a good thing). Too much slack in the throttle cables can accentuate this and cause the harshness you mention. First thing to do is adjust your throttle cables for minimum slack.

Secondly, proper throttle body balance is paramount. Sometimes these bikes leave the factory with both air bleeds open, so a proper balance can smooth things out quite a bit. I would also check/set your valves and then perform a trim reset, either with GuzziDiag or by pulling the main fuses for 30 seconds.

Then, PM me your email address and I'll flick you my Norge map.

[guzzied]

Thanks Mark,

I checked the throttle cable play and it was quite large, will take the bike out for a spin today after the adjustment. 

Hopefully the GuzziDiag cables I ordered from England will be here this week, so I can give the bike a good base setting (valve adjustment/throttle body sync, tps reset and trim reset). I PM ed you as well.

I also have a friend that has a 2 valve Norge, I would like to see him remap his bike as well, as when I ride behind him, it brings tears to my eyes cause his bike runs so rich.   

Mike

[guzzied]

Hello all,

I finally had a chance to download the map into my 2014 Norge, and wow! The motor feels like it is electric, meaning smooooth power once the clutch is let out.  I too find my self riding down lower in the rpm range, yes, I still like to hit redline when merging into traffic!

I have about 200 miles on the map so far and my only spot that may need some tweaking is on the cold startup. When starting cold, the bike seems to stumble, trying to keep running. Sometimes it will dye and require a restart. Once running for 1-2 min., it all seems to smooth out, but does require the full 2 min. warmup to be able to ride away. This is in fairly warm temps (65-70 degree F).  The CO is set at +5.

Another question, when the trim is reset, what exactly is being reset, 02 trim?

Oh, ok, another question, will this map work ok with a Mistral muffler with the DB killer installed or would I need a different map?  I know, I just love the way the Guzzi exhaust note sounds 

So Mark, how can I make a donation for your work?  You have saved me much as I didn't have to send my  computer out to get remapped and no PC5,

Thank you again, MIke

[beetle]

I have about 200 miles on the map so far and my only spot that may need some tweaking is on the cold startup. When starting cold, the bike seems to stumble, trying to keep running. Sometimes it will dye and require a restart. Once running for 1-2 min., it all seems to smooth out, but does require the full 2 min. warmup to be able to ride away. This is in fairly warm temps (65-70 degree F).  The CO is set at +5.

How's your throttle body balance and valve adjustment? When running an open loop,map, these must be spot on for best performance.

Another question, when the trim is reset, what exactly is being reset, 02 trim?

Yes.

Oh, ok, another question, will this map work ok with a Mistral muffler with the DB killer installed or would I need a different map?

Yes and no. It will run with the current map, but won't be optimal.

So Mark, how can I make a donation for your work?  You have saved me much as I didn't have to send my  computer out to get remapped and no PC5,

If you wish to donate to the cause, you can do so via PayPal to my email address to help cover costs. If you'd rather donate to something worthwhile, I support the Red Cross.

[guzzied]

Thanks Mark,

I just preformed the 1st service and to my surprise, just the intake valves were about 1 thou. loose. I guess the roller cam followers are working well?

The TB balance was fairly close at 4000 rpm and idle, one side air bleed was slightly opened.  I did adjust to get everything as equal as possible with my mercury sticks, I even switched the vacuum lines to double check, spot on.

I still had somewhat of a rough cold start in the am, I'm thinking of going more positive on the CO trim. 

I'm still a rookie at with the guzzidiag and while adjusting the CO, it seems like it takes several seconds for there to be an audible change in the idle, so it isn't like adjusting a carb, run the needle in and than back off 1/4 turn as there is a big lag time. Seems like almost like a full 60 seconds or more? I can hear a difference in the idle, but it is very hard to pick up by ear, I listen and then hear the bike stumble like missing a heart beat but I'm not sure that was from me making an adjustment or the computer making an adjustment to my commands quite a few seconds down the line. Yes, this is going to be a learning curve.

I will play with it more,
Mike

[beetle]

Yes, it takes time for the bike to settle in after a CO adjustment. Let me know how you get on. I can always tweak the warm-up table.

[MGrego]

Hello !

I would like to try the 8V Norge map if someone would be willing to send it to me. 

I have a 2012 Norge with these modifications :

1. rollerized
2. canisterectomy
3. Agostini exhaust pipe

If the map will work with these modifications I would like to give it a try.  I was able to successfully save the stock map to my PC and connect with Guzzidiag by following the instructions from Beetle's thread. The bike is running well now, but after reading through this post I'm really interested in giving the new map a go !

Thank you to all on this forum who have made all of this possible --

[jim mac]

Ditto here, i know i am coming late to this thread but i would like to try it out as well if someone can send it to me, PM me for email etc
regards

Jim Mac

[pauldaytona]

guys it works other way around: PM Beetle with what your bike is and has, and he will see if he has a map for you, AND include your emailaddress!

[Vasco DG]

AFAIK there has been no development of roller maps for the Norge, dunno about pipes? I think what Mark has done was based around the stock unit.

[MGrego]

Ok, thanks for the head's up.  I'll PM him as suggested about it --

[MCR]

Hello,
looking for a new map for my Norge 1200 8V 2015, I found this discussion for a map fromBeetle. How I can find it ? I tried to click on Beetle nickname to send him a private email but doesn't work.
How I can contact him or get his map?

Many thanks

[Dave Swanson]

Hello,
looking for a new map for my Norge 1200 8V 2015, I found this discussion for a map fromBeetle. How I can find it ? I tried to click on Beetle nickname to send him a private email but doesn't work.
How I can contact him or get his map?

Many thanks

The best mod I ever made for my Norge 8V and my Griso.  That and a tune up per Roper spec results in a smooth tower of power.  Feel free to IM if you have questions. 

http://griso.org/

[Lovey]

Hello,
looking for a new map for my Norge 1200 8V 2015, I found this discussion for a map fromBeetle. How I can find it ? I tried to click on Beetle nickname to send him a private email but doesn't work.
How I can contact him or get his map?

Many thanks

If you have facebook, click on this link
https://www.facebook.com/commerce/products/norge-8v/1556983831041554?ref=mini_shop_serp&referral_code=mini_shop_profile_plus_header_cta
If not, just google 'Beetle maps' and you'll find what your're after.
Steve.

[Huzo]

Hello,
looking for a new map for my Norge 1200 8V 2015, I found this discussion for a map fromBeetle. How I can find it ? I tried to click on Beetle nickname to send him a private email but doesn't work.
How I can contact him or get his map?

Many thanks

If you don’t do any good, let’s know here and we’ll get you sorted.
Also by way of enquiry..
What CO setting are you 2VPC guys running ?

[Dave Swanson]

Beetle's website is here.  http://griso.org/   

All the information you could ever need regarding the process to download and upload to your bike is on the site. 

[MCR]

Beetle contacted. Thanks a lot to everybody!

[MGrego]

I installed this on my 2012 Norge 8V and am happy with it.  Overall improvement in MPG and performance, but interestingly caused a "hanging throttle" where it takes a second for the RPMs to come down after you let off the throttle.  Doesn't really bother me. YMMV